MacPhail: Deal is dead (p. 297), stop posting, go outside

[jdelaney5150]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

[UMFan83]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

 

It does a little bit considering the Cubs don't consider either DeRosa or Fontenot as capable SS

[Abe Frohman]

Bump.

[jdelaney5150]

From the article at cubs.com; quote from MacPhail:

 

"We continue to talk," he said. "I think with each passing hour at this point, it's less and less likely. I just think it's less likely the further we get this close into it, the greater likelihood that we're going to start with what we have."

 

I think "we continue to talk" is a pretty clear indication that nothing has really changed and Sullivan just over exagerrated. From a journalistic standpoint, the only 2 scoops to be had on something like this are "the deal is done" and "the deal is dead". Since the prospects for the former are fading, it looks like he just decided to trump up the latter.

[Wrigley Rat]

I'm glad to see Hendry has the ability to stick to his guns and say no to a bad deal. I really think he was willing to give up quite a few solid prospects for two years of Brian Roberts, but when MacPhail got greedy, Hendry got out. I'd personally like to hold on to most of our prospects and use a few at the deadline for a spark, and maybe a few more in the offseason. Edited March 26, 2008 by Wrigley Rat

[jdelaney5150]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

 

It does a little bit considering the Cubs don't consider either DeRosa or Fontenot as capable SS

 

That is a valid point. I just don't think it would be a deal-breaker by any stretch.

[Rob]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

 

You're assuming Lou feels comfortable at SS with DeRosa or Fontenot for an extended amount of time should anything happen to Theriot... which doesn't appear to be the case.

[anabiono]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

 

You're assuming Lou feels comfortable at SS with DeRosa or Fontenot for an extended amount of time should anything happen to Theriot... which doesn't appear to be the case.

 

 

you know what appears to be the case?

 

we are not getting roberts!

 

:old_givebeer:

[CoolHandLuke]

300 is so close...

[UMFan83]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

 

You're assuming Lou feels comfortable at SS with DeRosa or Fontenot for an extended amount of time should anything happen to Theriot... which doesn't appear to be the case.

 

 

you know what appears to be the case?

 

we are not getting roberts!

 

:old_givebeer:

Stop trying to be Mr. 300...we're still 6 away.

[anabiono]

Cutting Cintron means we wont be trading Cedeno. Cedeno and Gallagher were the only constants in the proposed deals...

 

Getting a deal done just got a whole heckuva lot harder.

 

Why? If Roberts came, you would have Derosa and Fontenot as backup infielders. Still don't think the deal will happen, but cutting Cintron should not have any bearing on it.

 

You're assuming Lou feels comfortable at SS with DeRosa or Fontenot for an extended amount of time should anything happen to Theriot... which doesn't appear to be the case.

 

 

you know what appears to be the case?

 

we are not getting roberts!

 

:old_givebeer:

Stop trying to be Mr. 300...we're still 6 away.

 

pot calling kettle black i see

 

:write:

[98navigator]

Baltimore Sun

 

"I've mentioned to Brian that I think it's unlikely that something happens," said MacPhail. "I think with each passing hour at this point, it's less and less likely. As we get this close [to Opening Day], the greater likelihood is that we're going to start [the season] with what we have."

 

For some reason that sounds less definitive than Sullivan's take.

[wvcbxl]

What do you mean, "go outside"; it's eff'n 11.20 pm here.

[UMFan83]

Baltimore Sun

 

"I've mentioned to Brian that I think it's unlikely that something happens," said MacPhail. "I think with each passing hour at this point, it's less and less likely. As we get this close [to Opening Day], the greater likelihood is that we're going to start [the season] with what we have."

 

For some reason that sounds less definitive than Sullivan's take.

 

Yeah its been overblown. I wonder if Hendry dumping Cintron was a tactic, and MacPhail coming out with this news is a counter tactic....but mostly I'm just going to pretend this is going away.

[jersey cubs fan]

What do you mean, "go outside"; it's eff'n 11.20 pm here.

 

That's as good a time as any to go out.

[jersey cubs fan]

Baltimore Sun

 

"I've mentioned to Brian that I think it's unlikely that something happens," said MacPhail. "I think with each passing hour at this point, it's less and less likely. As we get this close [to Opening Day], the greater likelihood is that we're going to start [the season] with what we have."

 

For some reason that sounds less definitive than Sullivan's take.

 

Yeah its been overblown. I wonder if Hendry dumping Cintron was a tactic, and MacPhail coming out with this news is a counter tactic....but mostly I'm just going to pretend this is going away.

 

Not that I necessarily believe it in this case, but a lot of times when deals are stalled, you hear this kind of talk just before something happens.

[98navigator]

No 300 yet Edited March 26, 2008 by 98navigator

[UMFan83]

Baltimore Sun

 

"I've mentioned to Brian that I think it's unlikely that something happens," said MacPhail. "I think with each passing hour at this point, it's less and less likely. As we get this close [to Opening Day], the greater likelihood is that we're going to start [the season] with what we have."

 

For some reason that sounds less definitive than Sullivan's take.

 

Yeah its been overblown. I wonder if Hendry dumping Cintron was a tactic, and MacPhail coming out with this news is a counter tactic....but mostly I'm just going to pretend this is going away.

 

Not that I necessarily believe it in this case, but a lot of times when deals are stalled, you hear this kind of talk just before something happens.

 

Exactly. The thing is, you also hear this kind of talk before things break off as well.

Edited March 26, 2008 by UMFan83

[UBlink]

"So, tell me, granddaddy, where were you when the Brian Roberts thread crossed the 300 mark?"

[Derwood]

No 300 yet

 

???

[CoolHandLuke]

whew

[TarzanJoeWallis]

FWIW, I did see Bruce Kison at the game today, so the O's are still scouting the Cubs.

[Derwood]

300?

[Derwood]

300?

 

dangit

[UMFan83]

FWIW, I did see Bruce Kison at the game today, so the O's are still scouting the Cubs.

 

Interesting. Who knows. MacPhail didn't say its dead..