Bonds indicted on perjury and obstruction of justice charges

[OleMissCub]

According to Rotoworld (who seems to know everything), maximum sentence for Barry Bonds crime is 30 years in prison. Ouch!

 

He won't serve a day.

 

You're probably right. But, I'm just pointing out the insanity of lying about whether you stuck yourself with a needle having a longer prison term than going next door and sawing your neighbor into itty bitty pieces.

 

Perjury carries such a stiff penalty because it strikes at the very integrity of the entire justice system itself.

 

It's sort of like how stiff a penalty gambling in baseball carries as opposed to other offenses that are likely more damaging.

[The Voice of Reason]

jesse jackson wants to know why barry bonds is being indicted on these charges, but not rafael palmeiro.

 

Did Palmiero testify before a grand jury? But isn't it illegal to lie to Congress?

 

Was this indictment unexpected?

 

I don't believe Palmeiro ever testified before a grand jury, but he definitely lied to congress and committed perjury. If Bonds is being prosecuted then Palmeiro should be as well.

 

Palmeiro flunked the steroid test after he testified before Congress. There was no evidence (i.e., a failed drug test) that he had taken roids before his testimony or committed perjury.

 

Did he? probably, but there was no evidence he did so there was never an indictment for perjury.

[Wilson A2000]

Lester Munson said that if convicted, Bonds would likely get a year

[javy knows my name]

Probably shoulda started a rant but I'll threadjack instead.

Did you know that every gd sportswriter and lawyer in North America was SURPRISED by this indictment?! I swear to God, I think I heard from 15 different people that ESPN got on the phone and every single one of them started their answer with "I'm surprised." My GOD, ESPN has gotten bad. And I missed flippin PTI!

end rant

[Wilson A2000]

The asterisks in the indictment are not trying to cover up anything, but are meaning to heighten the points where Bonds supposedly perjured himself right?

[javy knows my name]

The asterisks in the indictment are not trying to cover up anything, but are meaning to heighten the points where Bonds supposedly perjured himself right?

This was how I understood it

[shnsajax]

Somebody call ESPN and tell Stephen A. Smith to STFU.

 

I tried two years ago,

 

It didn't work.

[Outshined_One]

The problem with the idea of Bonds taking a plea doesn't seem to gel with what's been going on since this whole mess started.

 

Bonds has been Public Enemy #1 in the steroid witch hunt. Every single talking head pretty much had Bonds as the top perpetrator in taking steroids. The vast majority of the anti-performance-enhancing drugs outcry has centered on him. Perhaps he could give up some names if he reaches a plea bargain, but it seems like the whole damn point of this thing has been to nail Bonds to the wall.

[CuseCubFan69]

I think what peeved off a lot of people was Bonds perceived arrogance about the issue. He made a lot of enemies doing this and you have to remember he also didn't go to the congressional hearings and the anger was built up even more when he did that. Add to that the race for Aarrons HR title and the man has a lot of disgruntled people against him. I don't even want to fathom the thought of him passing a white guy like Ruth instead of Aarron because that would open up a whole new can or worms.

[Tracer Bullet]

I know you guys are having some (dead horse beating) fun with this, but prosecuting people who lie under oath is as important as anything federal prosecutors do. You can't let these people go without calling them on their behavior, especially the most high-profile ones. I am not sure why, but some of you seem to not understand this.

 

Exactly.

 

+1

 

Actually though, I do enjoy some of the quips. Some of you are really, really good at being smart-asses. I mean that in a good way.

 

I think the jokes are more in reference to the post that started "at least Barry is off the streets" rather than about nailing him for perjury.

[DurbanJer]

jesse jackson wants to know why barry bonds is being indicted on these charges, but not rafael palmeiro.

 

Did Palmiero testify before a grand jury? But isn't it illegal to lie to Congress?

 

Was this indictment unexpected?

 

I don't believe Palmeiro ever testified before a grand jury, but he definitely lied to congress and committed perjury. If Bonds is being prosecuted then Palmeiro should be as well.

 

Palmeiro flunked the steroid test after he testified before Congress. There was no evidence (i.e., a failed drug test) that he had taken roids before his testimony or committed perjury.

 

Did he? probably, but there was no evidence he did so there was never an indictment for perjury.

 

 

Also, and I may be wrong, but I think that we're talking different jurisdictions. Congress issues its own subpeonas and would issue its own indictments for prosecution by the Justice Dept. Bonds, however, is accused of perjuring himself before a federal grand jury which falls solely within Justice's purview.

[abuck1220]

thank goodness i got to hear stephen a. smith's patented everyone is racist self-promotion last night on espn. i was dying to hear what he had to say on the subject.

[Burtonbell]

Its about time...

 

I can't wait until this is all over so we can focus on Arod breaking this *tainted* record.

[RynoRules]

I think it will fascinating to watch how the feds set up their case. I have to think Anderson got tired of sitting in jail off and on for more than a year and will testify, but I know much of the press disagrees.

[Burtonbell]

I think it will fascinating to watch how the feds set up their case. I have to think Anderson got tired of sitting in jail off and on for more than a year and will testify, but I know much of the press disagrees.

 

On the other hand, I read that the Feds just dont need Anderson in jail now that his testimont about not giving Bonds the drugs has pretty much flown out the window.

[Derwood]

i wouldn't be surprised at all if Bonds served some time. he is so detached from reality that he probably thinks he can still lie to everyone without recourse. the man doesn't have a speck of contrition in his entire body

[jyoung55]

According to Rotoworld (who seems to know everything), maximum sentence for Barry Bonds crime is 30 years in prison. Ouch!

 

He won't serve a day.

 

You're probably right. But, I'm just pointing out the insanity of lying about whether you stuck yourself with a needle having a longer prison term than going next door and sawing your neighbor into itty bitty pieces.

 

Well its not that straightforward. You are comparing the max sentences for 5 separate counts that have been added together as if they were going to be served consecutively to one count served on its own. And FWIW, down here in god's country if you sawed anyone in any size pieces, the only sentence choice would be life or the chair.

 

And I'll go out on a limb and predict that if he is convicted on any or even all of the counts that he would get sentenced to nowhere near 30 years, but will likely see some time. After all, it didn't hurt that court's feelings to let Greg Anderson sit in jail for extended visits while refusing to testify.

[fibro]

I think it will fascinating to watch how the feds set up their case. I have to think Anderson got tired of sitting in jail off and on for more than a year and will testify, but I know much of the press disagrees.

 

The reason the press disagrees is that his lawyer said he did not cooperate. It really makes no sense for him to lie. If he did cooperate I assume that would be in the indictment. One the major things in the indictment is failed drug tests by Bonds. They will still have to prove that he knowingly took steroids though not just that he took them. Seems this is not going to be easy to prove.

[hardcorecubfan]

Derwood wrote

i wouldn't be surprised at all if Bonds served some time. he is so detached from reality that he probably thinks he can still lie to everyone without recourse. the man doesn't have a speck of contrition in his entire body

 

I suspect it will be as much time as Lyndsey Lohan did. 84 minutes

[BeerHere]

Can someone answer this question:

 

I thought that HGH was undetectable? If so, what steroid test could Bonds have failed?

[CuseCubFan69]

Can someone answer this question:

 

I thought that HGH was undetectable? If so, what steroid test could Bonds have failed?

 

I think it would be a person that saw him take it, like his ex-girlfriend.

[Soul]

Not a shock he was indicted though. They've been talking about it for a year. Some people need to quit with the fake suprise. Everyone knew this was a possibility.

[CuseCubFan69]

Not a shock he was indicted though. They've been talking about it for a year. Some people need to quit with the fake suprise. Everyone knew this was a possibility.

 

Bonds big thing was that he took the creme or clear he just didn't know what they were. He has never denied taking the stuff, that we now of.

[hardcorecubfan]

As mentioned glad he is off the streets and steriods are being tested in our school in Texas because of him. Just a side note this will not affect the students I teach that come high on pot, meth, crack or ice.

 

Yes, thank god that barry bonds is off the streets.

 

barry bonds tried to sell me crack the last time i was in san francisco

 

I new it!!!

[abuck1220]

i old it!