Paul Byrd bought HGH

[Drew Doughty]

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[Jon]

It looks like he did everything but have "HGH delivery for MLB player inside" stamped all over the box.

[E.J.]

It looks like he did everything but have "HGH delivery for MLB player inside" stamped all over the box.

 

Yeah, looks like he really went out of his way to keep it secrect. :lol:

[Post Count Padder]

That's a shame, I liked Paul Byrd. I guess there are gonna be more depressing names to follow.

[Chocolate Milk]

It didn't work.

[cubs22]

I know that Paul Byrd is not the most talented pitchers in the world. But these types of stories just dont sit well with me. He is quoted in the story saying how he has trained to be the best pitcher he can be and that he would never use roids. Then he talks about the kids and they need to know only 7 percent of players use the roids. These players dont know how good they have it, anybody here on this board would die to have the chance that they have been given. I know that they are just trying to get a competitive advantage but if you cant do it clean then just give up. I sure would love to have his talent and the abilty he has been given and the opportunites he has been given. Sorry if this is a rant, and i know more of these stories are going to come out but I just think it is sick.

[Careless]

$25,000? that seems like a lot.

[Rob]

Rotoworld is now reporting that MLB was aware of Byrd's purchases, as he has a small tumor at the base of his pituitary gland.

 

Seems like this might be a legitimate medical thing.

[Bruno7481]

Byrd seems like a stand up guy. He has written a book about his life in baseball and the temptations of it. He is an extremely religious individual.

 

There probably is a legit excuse for this. It wouldn't mesh with what I know about him. He is from my area and is know to be an extremely polite and approachable guy.

[Rob]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7358706

 

Byrd says he never hid his use of HGH because it was prescribed to him under a doctor's care. He paid for the substance with his own credit card. At one point, he had it sent in his name to the Braves' spring-training facility in Kissimmee, Fla.

 

Apparently he talks about it in his new book.

[Keener98]

So, what are the odds that somebody from Boston is the one who decided to bring this to light right before a Game 7?

[Vanilla Ice]

So, what are the odds that somebody from Boston is the one who decided to bring this to light right before a Game 7?

 

It was from the San Fransisco Chronicle, although that could have been good payback for the Beckett ex-girlfriend thing

[haltz]

He is quoted in the story saying how he has trained to be the best pitcher he can be and that he would never use roids.

Where does it say he used steroids?

 

These players dont know how good they have it, anybody here on this board would die to have the chance that they have been given.

No they wouldn't, and I'm not being a literalist here. This logic of "I'd do or give anything ... except take hGH" is weird.

[Omar]

Didn't he have a press conference today on ESPNEWS? I was planning on watching it but forgot...

[cubs22]

He pretty much said he would never cheat at the game of baseball. If this was for a medical reason then it is fine. So your saying that you would not give anything for a chance at the big leagues???

[javy knows my name]

He pretty much said he would never cheat at the game of baseball. If this was for a medical reason then it is fine. So your saying that you would not give anything for a chance at the big leagues???

 

I think he might be saying that "anything" should and would likely include the use of performance-enhancing drugs.

[d_money]

Sounds like Byrd is playing dumb here. The fact that Shapiro never knew about his "condition" sounds suspicious - plus the fact that it was prescribed by a dentist (come on!).

 

Sad to hear, he's just like all the others - he'll deny it until he's blue in the face (like Ankiel). I heard an interview with him this past summer and he spoke about his religious beliefs and how it has made him a better player/person etc..., but reading this article tells me he's just as bad, if not worse (using religion) than the rest. Its too bad.

[Geech]

Will Carroll on Byrd's HGH: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=618

 

A choice cut:

 

Byrd was using hGH under doctor’s orders after the discovery of a small, non-secreting pituitary tumor that may have resulted in lower-than-normal levels of hGH. This is far from a common situation, but neither is it rare. Byrd was examined by multiple doctors and, according to sources, the information was passed from team to team in Byrd’s standard medical record when he changed teams during the period of his usage. According to an endocrinologist who refused to be named because he did not examine Byrd or his records, hGH is a standard treatment for such a condition.

[Soul]

Will Carroll on Byrd's HGH: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=618

 

A choice cut:

 

Byrd was using hGH under doctor’s orders after the discovery of a small, non-secreting pituitary tumor that may have resulted in lower-than-normal levels of hGH. This is far from a common situation, but neither is it rare. Byrd was examined by multiple doctors and, according to sources, the information was passed from team to team in Byrd’s standard medical record when he changed teams during the period of his usage. According to an endocrinologist who refused to be named because he did not examine Byrd or his records, hGH is a standard treatment for such a condition.

 

Alright, but wasn't it like $25,000 worth? $25k worth of HGH to treat a simple glandular condition? Color me suspicious. Obviously any doctor prescribing a medication is going to put a medical condition in the record as a reason for prescribing it. That's going to be the case with normal prescriptions, as well as shady ones. So I'm not sure that really proves anything, but it's good to know.

 

Obviously it didn't help Byrd's fastball. I don't think that's really the point either.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

he should have gotten the generic and paid $10

[Soul]

So who's the real cheater? Byrd, or Mitchell?

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/22/sports/baseball/22roberts.html?ref=baseball

 

Many believe he will. He has no choice. His credibility as lead detective is at stake. Mitchell is, after all, not just part of the giddy Red Sox Nation, but a director of the team. He refused to take off his Red Sox cap when Commissioner Bud Selig asked him to wear the hat of steroid sleuth in the spring of 2006.

 

Mitchell is a director of the Red Sox, and on the eve of the Indians winning the ALCS suddenly a story breaks about their starting pitcher using HGH? Wow.

 

Oh, yes. I suppose Selena Roberts is just a bitter Yankees fan. Perhaps, but that doesn't erase the fact that Mitchell should have dissolved his relationship with the Red Sox before taking on this assignment. How did this fly under the radar until now??? Outrageous!

[sethuel1]

Will Carroll on Byrd's HGH: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=618

 

A choice cut:

 

Byrd was using hGH under doctor’s orders after the discovery of a small, non-secreting pituitary tumor that may have resulted in lower-than-normal levels of hGH. This is far from a common situation, but neither is it rare. Byrd was examined by multiple doctors and, according to sources, the information was passed from team to team in Byrd’s standard medical record when he changed teams during the period of his usage. According to an endocrinologist who refused to be named because he did not examine Byrd or his records, hGH is a standard treatment for such a condition.

 

Alright, but wasn't it like $25,000 worth? $25k worth of HGH to treat a simple glandular condition? Color me suspicious. Obviously any doctor prescribing a medication is going to put a medical condition in the record as a reason for prescribing it. That's going to be the case with normal prescriptions, as well as shady ones. So I'm not sure that really proves anything, but it's good to know.

 

Obviously it didn't help Byrd's fastball. I don't think that's really the point either.

 

i don't know if you are on any medications, but they ain't cheap.

 

For something like recombinant (i.e. produced in a genetically engineered lower organism) hormones, they could be something like $300-500 for a dosing regimen

 

Note: I have no idea if it is actually this expensive, just saying that recombinant drugs aren't cheap.

 

EDIT: Went and looked it up. looks like a standard dose of somatropin is .2mg/day, and I found a 5mg vial online at Walgreens.com for $368. So that's a 25 day supply. So he's looking at $5372 a year. In 4.5 years, there's your $25k.

[Soul]

I've never been on meds that cost that much per month. I know they exist. By the way, they would have had to be more expensive than you say, because the period was from August 2002 - Jan 2005, 2 1/2 years.

 

I don't know what to think about this anyway. It's certainly very fishy that this one person broke headlines just as his team was going out to play the avowed team of the guy in charge of the investigation. I think Indians fans have a right to be a tad lemon-faced right about now.