Starter for Thursday's Game?

[David]

I would certainly hate this to turn into a situation similar to "well at least we have Prior and Wood for Games 6 and 7".

 

We don't have ol' Dusty hanging around to screw everything up this time, though.

[badger1679666666]

Lou is a good manager. I just can't ever remember having a manager think like this since I've been posting on Cubs.com then here.

 

Absolutely. It's been quite a refreshing year on the whole. Every manager makes some stupid decisions, it just happens over the course of 162 games. But more often than not Lou has been damn good.

[SouthSideRyan]

I would have had Hill starting Thursday all along. My only worry is that it throws off his throwing schedule if he was planning on pitching on Friday all along. You follow with Z on Friday.

 

Then on Saturday you see what you have in your bullpen, and you go from there. Ideally you can hold out Hart from Thursday/Friday and you start him on Saturday. You have Marshall and Gallagher both ready to go at the first sign of trouble. Count on one of Wood or Marmol to go 2, the other going 1. Between those 2, Howry, and Dempster you're asking for 4 innings from 3 spot starters. Be aggressive with the pen, and use every last guy you have down there. If you run out of pitchers by the 10th, so be it, Trachsel is the long man who pitches til it's over.

 

Then Sunday, you have Lilly on full rest, and haven't really burnt much of your bullpen as you'd have maybe 1 or 2 guys going multiple innings Saturday.

[rawaction]

I would have had Hill starting Thursday all along. My only worry is that it throws off his throwing schedule if he was planning on pitching on Friday all along. You follow with Z on Friday.

 

Then on Saturday you see what you have in your bullpen, and you go from there. Ideally you can hold out Hart from Thursday/Friday and you start him on Saturday. You have Marshall and Gallagher both ready to go at the first sign of trouble. Count on one of Wood or Marmol to go 2, the other going 1. Between those 2, Howry, and Dempster you're asking for 4 innings from 3 spot starters. Be aggressive with the pen, and use every last guy you have down there. If you run out of pitchers by the 10th, so be it, Trachsel is the long man who pitches til it's over.

 

Then Sunday, you have Lilly on full rest, and haven't really burnt much of your bullpen as you'd have maybe 1 or 2 guys going multiple innings Saturday.

 

You'd have Hill and Marquis probably able to go that day too.

[SouthSideRyan]

I would have had Hill starting Thursday all along. My only worry is that it throws off his throwing schedule if he was planning on pitching on Friday all along. You follow with Z on Friday.

 

Then on Saturday you see what you have in your bullpen, and you go from there. Ideally you can hold out Hart from Thursday/Friday and you start him on Saturday. You have Marshall and Gallagher both ready to go at the first sign of trouble. Count on one of Wood or Marmol to go 2, the other going 1. Between those 2, Howry, and Dempster you're asking for 4 innings from 3 spot starters. Be aggressive with the pen, and use every last guy you have down there. If you run out of pitchers by the 10th, so be it, Trachsel is the long man who pitches til it's over.

 

Then Sunday, you have Lilly on full rest, and haven't really burnt much of your bullpen as you'd have maybe 1 or 2 guys going multiple innings Saturday.

 

You'd have Hill and Marquis probably able to go that day too.

 

I'd go to Hill for an inning, I'd hold out Marquis for extras. I trust our top 6 guys(7 if Hart is available) more than I'd trust Marquis pitching out of his element in relief. Again though, I'd be agressive with my relievers the rest of the way.

[Soul]

Lou is a good manager. I just can't ever remember having a manager think like this since I've been posting on Cubs.com then here.

 

Absolutely. It's been quite a refreshing year on the whole. Every manager makes some stupid decisions, it just happens over the course of 162 games. But more often than not Lou has been damn good.

 

We blow this lead? He'll be crucified. Think Rex-type crucifixion.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Lou is a good manager. I just can't ever remember having a manager think like this since I've been posting on Cubs.com then here.

 

Absolutely. It's been quite a refreshing year on the whole. Every manager makes some stupid decisions, it just happens over the course of 162 games. But more often than not Lou has been damn good.

 

We blow this lead? He'll be crucified. Think Rex-type crucifixion.

 

na, it will be "the Curse".

 

The Bears are held FAR more accountable then the Cobs.

[minnesotacubsfan]

we have a 6-man rotation and we can't find anyone for tomorrow?

 

Quantity doesn't equal quality.

 

right, but quantity IS a quality.....

[CuseCubFan69]

Lou is a good manager. I just can't ever remember having a manager think like this since I've been posting on Cubs.com then here.

 

Absolutely. It's been quite a refreshing year on the whole. Every manager makes some stupid decisions, it just happens over the course of 162 games. But more often than not Lou has been damn good.

 

We blow this lead? He'll be crucified. Think Rex-type crucifixion.

 

If the Cubs blew a lead like the Mets or Red Sox had maybe but a 3 game lead isn't the most impossible thing to lose with 6 games left. As a matter of fact, I like having his presence in the dugout.

[C.C.]

we have a 6-man rotation and we can't find anyone for tomorrow?

 

Quantity doesn't equal quality.

 

right, but quantity IS a quality.....

 

Depends what the quantity equates to.*

 

 

 

* I think that makes sense. :?

[Backtobanks]

According to the press, Lou came out and stated that Tracshel may not make the start on Thurs. The story didn't mention anything about possible starters. The list of usual suspects is:

 

Hart

Marshall

Gallagher (if he is still with the team)

Piggy

 

Anybody think the Cubs would be better off to let the bullpen start the game? It could go

 

Wood (2 innings)

Weurtz (2 innings)

Hart(1-2 innings)

Eyre (1-2 innings)

Marmol

Howry

Dempster

 

I would take my chances with those guys over Trachsel ever day of the week.

 

Whether he starts Tracshel or one of the other pitchers (Hart, Gallagher, Marshall, or Piggy), he should keep a short leash on the pitcher. Tracshel might be okay the first time through the lineup (3 innings) and then bring in Marshall or Gallagher for 3 innings and Hart or Piggy for a couple and then go to the regular end-of-the-game bullpen guys.

[Bruno7481]

According to the press, Lou came out and stated that Tracshel may not make the start on Thurs. The story didn't mention anything about possible starters. The list of usual suspects is:

 

Hart

Marshall

Gallagher (if he is still with the team)

Piggy

 

Anybody think the Cubs would be better off to let the bullpen start the game? It could go

 

Wood (2 innings)

Weurtz (2 innings)

Hart(1-2 innings)

Eyre (1-2 innings)

Marmol

Howry

Dempster

 

I would take my chances with those guys over Trachsel ever day of the week.

 

Whether he starts Tracshel or one of the other pitchers (Hart, Gallagher, Marshall, or Piggy), he should keep a short leash on the pitcher. Tracshel might be okay the first time through the lineup (3 innings) and then bring in Marshall or Gallagher for 3 innings and Hart or Piggy for a couple and then go to the regular end-of-the-game bullpen guys.

 

I guess I am the only one that thinks it would be ridiculous to put the season in the hands of Piggy or Gallagher, both of whom have not seen any action in weeks.

 

Start Hill on his normal rest, problem solved.

[CubColtPacer]

According to the press, Lou came out and stated that Tracshel may not make the start on Thurs. The story didn't mention anything about possible starters. The list of usual suspects is:

 

Hart

 

 

Marshall

Gallagher (if he is still with the team)

Piggy

 

Anybody think the Cubs would be better off to let the bullpen start the game? It could go

 

Wood (2 innings)

Weurtz (2 innings)

Hart(1-2 innings)

Eyre (1-2 innings)

Marmol

Howry

Dempster

 

I would take my chances with those guys over Trachsel ever day of the week.

 

Whether he starts Tracshel or one of the other pitchers (Hart, Gallagher, Marshall, or Piggy), he should keep a short leash on the pitcher. Tracshel might be okay the first time through the lineup (3 innings) and then bring in Marshall or Gallagher for 3 innings and Hart or Piggy for a couple and then go to the regular end-of-the-game bullpen guys.

 

I guess I am the only one that thinks it would be ridiculous to put the season in the hands of Piggy or Gallagher, both of whom have not seen any action in weeks.

 

Start Hill on his normal rest, problem solved.

 

They are going to have to bite the bullet and go with a 5th starter one of these days, be it Thursday, Friday, or Saturday. So starting Hill only delays the problem, not solves it.

[Bruno7481]

According to the press, Lou came out and stated that Tracshel may not make the start on Thurs. The story didn't mention anything about possible starters. The list of usual suspects is:

 

Hart

 

 

Marshall

Gallagher (if he is still with the team)

Piggy

 

Anybody think the Cubs would be better off to let the bullpen start the game? It could go

 

Wood (2 innings)

Weurtz (2 innings)

Hart(1-2 innings)

Eyre (1-2 innings)

Marmol

Howry

Dempster

 

I would take my chances with those guys over Trachsel ever day of the week.

 

Whether he starts Tracshel or one of the other pitchers (Hart, Gallagher, Marshall, or Piggy), he should keep a short leash on the pitcher. Tracshel might be okay the first time through the lineup (3 innings) and then bring in Marshall or Gallagher for 3 innings and Hart or Piggy for a couple and then go to the regular end-of-the-game bullpen guys.

 

I guess I am the only one that thinks it would be ridiculous to put the season in the hands of Piggy or Gallagher, both of whom have not seen any action in weeks.

 

Start Hill on his normal rest, problem solved.

 

They are going to have to bite the bullet and go with a 5th starter one of these days, be it Thursday, Friday, or Saturday. So starting Hill only delays the problem, not solves it.

 

Then I'd go with Marshall, who has seen some action, although very little. I think the chances of winning are higher with a Marshall/Trachsel tandem then any other combo.

 

I'd throw Hart out there as a possibillity, but he's become one of the main guys out of the pen lately. He'd probably be lost for the year if he makes any kind of start.

 

Obviously it boils down to tonight's games. If the Cubs can somehow go up by 3 again I think Trachsel will be the guy.

[C.C.]

According to the press, Lou came out and stated that Tracshel may not make the start on Thurs. The story didn't mention anything about possible starters. The list of usual suspects is:

 

Hart

 

 

Marshall

Gallagher (if he is still with the team)

Piggy

 

Anybody think the Cubs would be better off to let the bullpen start the game? It could go

 

Wood (2 innings)

Weurtz (2 innings)

Hart(1-2 innings)

Eyre (1-2 innings)

Marmol

Howry

Dempster

 

I would take my chances with those guys over Trachsel ever day of the week.

 

Whether he starts Tracshel or one of the other pitchers (Hart, Gallagher, Marshall, or Piggy), he should keep a short leash on the pitcher. Tracshel might be okay the first time through the lineup (3 innings) and then bring in Marshall or Gallagher for 3 innings and Hart or Piggy for a couple and then go to the regular end-of-the-game bullpen guys.

 

I guess I am the only one that thinks it would be ridiculous to put the season in the hands of Piggy or Gallagher, both of whom have not seen any action in weeks.

 

Start Hill on his normal rest, problem solved.

 

They are going to have to bite the bullet and go with a 5th starter one of these days, be it Thursday, Friday, or Saturday. So starting Hill only delays the problem, not solves it.

 

I'd rather delay it for the punchless Reds. No?

[CubColtPacer]

According to the press, Lou came out and stated that Tracshel may not make the start on Thurs. The story didn't mention anything about possible starters. The list of usual suspects is:

 

Hart

 

 

Marshall

Gallagher (if he is still with the team)

Piggy

 

Anybody think the Cubs would be better off to let the bullpen start the game? It could go

 

Wood (2 innings)

Weurtz (2 innings)

Hart(1-2 innings)

Eyre (1-2 innings)

Marmol

Howry

Dempster

 

I would take my chances with those guys over Trachsel ever day of the week.

 

Whether he starts Tracshel or one of the other pitchers (Hart, Gallagher, Marshall, or Piggy), he should keep a short leash on the pitcher. Tracshel might be okay the first time through the lineup (3 innings) and then bring in Marshall or Gallagher for 3 innings and Hart or Piggy for a couple and then go to the regular end-of-the-game bullpen guys.

 

I guess I am the only one that thinks it would be ridiculous to put the season in the hands of Piggy or Gallagher, both of whom have not seen any action in weeks.

 

Start Hill on his normal rest, problem solved.

 

They are going to have to bite the bullet and go with a 5th starter one of these days, be it Thursday, Friday, or Saturday. So starting Hill only delays the problem, not solves it.

 

I'd rather delay it for the punchless Reds. No?

 

Normally, I would say yes. A main reason why Hill would be a good fit for the Reds series is now gone (Dunn is 2-16 with no home runs against Hill and Griffey is 1-8 with no home runs in his career against Hill). Without those 2 big left-handers in the Reds lineup, I'd rather push my more effective pitcher against the Marlins lineup.

 

At the same time, the Marlins have been better against left-handers than right-handers this year, and the Reds have been much better against right-handers than left-handers. So that gives me pause.

 

I'd probably pitch Hill against the Marlins anyway, as I believe most of the Reds success against right-handers came from guys that won't be in the lineup this weekend.