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If only Cuban had a legit shot at ownership... As Harry would say, if Cuban submits the winning bid: "They're dancing in the streets of [name your locale]!!!"
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I read in the tribune today that the Cubs told Comcast not to mention that Cuban was at the game on Monday. The article than went on to say that Cuban has no shot at owning the Cubs.

 

Yesterday on PTI Welbon said it was complete crap that the owners of the 2 teams that are the closest to the Cubs (White Sox and Brewers) can basically stop the sale of the team to Cuban. I say good for you Welbon. I hope more Cub media starts to call this crap also.

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I read in the tribune today that the Cubs told Comcast not to mention that Cuban was at the game on Monday. The article than went on to say that Cuban has no shot at owning the Cubs.

 

Yesterday on PTI Welbon said it was complete crap that the owners of the 2 teams that are the closest to the Cubs (White Sox and Brewers) can basically stop the sale of the team to Cuban. I say good for you Welbon. I hope more Cub media starts to call this crap also.

 

LOL, I just get this ugly feeling that we're gonna be saddled with the biggest joke of an owner that Selig can hang on us.

 

Tell me you all aren't feeling the same thing.

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I read in the tribune today that the Cubs told Comcast not to mention that Cuban was at the game on Monday. The article than went on to say that Cuban has no shot at owning the Cubs.

 

Yesterday on PTI Welbon said it was complete crap that the owners of the 2 teams that are the closest to the Cubs (White Sox and Brewers) can basically stop the sale of the team to Cuban. I say good for you Welbon. I hope more Cub media starts to call this crap also.

 

LOL, I just get this ugly feeling that we're gonna be saddled with the biggest joke of an owner that Selig can hang on us.

 

Tell me you all aren't feeling the same thing.

cue the hoff doing "hooked on feelings."

 

I have the same feeling... :x

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I read in the tribune today that the Cubs told Comcast not to mention that Cuban was at the game on Monday. The article than went on to say that Cuban has no shot at owning the Cubs.

 

Yesterday on PTI Welbon said it was complete crap that the owners of the 2 teams that are the closest to the Cubs (White Sox and Brewers) can basically stop the sale of the team to Cuban. I say good for you Welbon. I hope more Cub media starts to call this crap also.

 

If this can really get going it is going to put a lot of presure on Selig just to do the right thing. If Cuban is not the high bidder then i'm fine with everything. However if he the high bidder and gets rejected for some reason I am pretty sure we will here about it from Cuban.

 

The more they talk about Selig like this the better.

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http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/09/19/mark-cuban-in-wrigley-field-bleachers-a-first-hand-account/

 

We got into the bleachers about 45 minutes before game time and Cuban sat down maybe 10 minutes later. He was being cool with everyone, signing autographs and taking pictures. He seemed into the game. A couple chants broke out, "Cuban! Cuban!" The better one was "Buy the Cubs! Buy the Cubs!" to which he pumped his fist at one point.

 

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/sports.aol.com/fanhouse/media/2007/09/mark-cuban-sign-425.jpg

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It makes me sick that MLB can and will keep us from getting our guy.. (or the guy getting us, I guess).

 

If Cuban went into this with a partner that has some local credibility and some clout with MLB, does anyone think that would make any difference in terms of his chances?

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It makes me sick that MLB can and will keep us from getting our guy.. (or the guy getting us, I guess).

 

If Cuban went into this with a partner that has some local credibility and some clout with MLB, does anyone think that would make any difference in terms of his chances?

 

Has Bruce or anyone commented on the "MLB preventing Cuban buying the team" theory? Do you guys really think that Cuban would really attend a game and sit in the bleachers, if he had no chance at buying the team?

 

It seems to me that the Tribune would want to get as much money as possible for the team, and that an owner like Cuban would be good for the league.

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I honestly want to punch Selig and his cronies in the nuts as hard as I can repeatedly until I tear his ballsac off and he screams and begs for me to stop. Then I'll tell him to get Cuban confirmed.

 

LOL, frustrating ain't it?

 

Glad I'm not the only one feeling it. Just gotta laugh, otherwise I'll cry. :P :cry:

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It makes me sick that MLB can and will keep us from getting our guy.. (or the guy getting us, I guess).

 

If Cuban went into this with a partner that has some local credibility and some clout with MLB, does anyone think that would make any difference in terms of his chances?

 

Has Bruce or anyone commented on the "MLB preventing Cuban buying the team" theory? Do you guys really think that Cuban would really attend a game and sit in the bleachers, if he had no chance at buying the team?

 

It seems to me that the Tribune would want to get as much money as possible for the team, and that an owner like Cuban would be good for the league.

 

The Cubs telling Comcast to keep him off the air certainly does nothing to dispute the idea.

 

Several of the articles that dismiss practically any possibility that Cuban would be approved by the MLB owners cite league sources. Who knows what the hell that means, but the idea certainly seems to hold water.

 

He only needs 75% approval, though, right?

 

 

That means 23 teams in favor. We know Reinsdorf is a "no." I'd guess Angelos, too. Who else?

 

I have to admit, I don't know a whole lot about the politics of MLB owners.

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It makes me sick that MLB can and will keep us from getting our guy.. (or the guy getting us, I guess).

 

If Cuban went into this with a partner that has some local credibility and some clout with MLB, does anyone think that would make any difference in terms of his chances?

 

Cuban has to make it happen somehow.

 

I have a dream where the Chicago Cubs, using "cutting edge" (as if they haven't been around a long time), statistical bases for their personnel and on field decisions routinely beat the tar out of all the other clubs that are run by "Baseball Guys". I want to see all of the closeminded sport's writers come up with headlines like "Computer Nerd Dynasty - Just Dumb Luck". I want to hear Joe Morgan say things like, "obviously their methods aren't working because it took them 6 games to win the Series. If they were so good, why didn't they sweep?" I want us to be the team that punishes the baseball world for the next 10 years for being so opposed to change and new ways of thinking. I also want to see Cuban run on to the field to chastise Angel Hernandez.

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Off the top of my head owners who are a no

 

Reinsdorf

Pohlad

 

Anyone who's been a recent part of a Selig organized team buying

 

That's Washington, Florida, Boston, LAD, Oakland?, Arizona?, Tampa?

 

That's 9 right there, without taking into account the poor teams not wanting another big spender in the game.

 

I think it's going to take a significant overbid by Cuban followed by litigation by the Trib to get him approved. So, no we're not getting him :(

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Off the top of my head owners who are a no

 

Reinsdorf

Pohlad

 

Anyone who's been a recent part of a Selig organized team buying

 

That's Washington, Florida, Boston, LAD, Oakland?, Arizona?, Tampa?

 

That's 9 right there, without taking into account the poor teams not wanting another big spender in the game.

 

I think it's going to take a significant overbid by Cuban followed by litigation by the Trib to get him approved. So, no we're not getting him :(

 

If not they will find some obscure technicality to stop him from buying the Cubs.

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If Cuban went into this with a partner that has some local credibility and some clout with MLB, does anyone think that would make any difference in terms of his chances?

 

I think he has one. Maybe not with the MLB clout, but I'm pretty sure his partner was a local guy.

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I think that if Cuban was the high bidder and MLB voted him down, it is going to turn into a public relations nightmare for them. Its not like Cuban isnt a successful Pro team owner already. Also whoever did buy the Cubs would be put into a very bad spot with the fans. I think the only way this turns out good for everyone is someone outbids Cuban or they let Cuban have it. Its not like Cuban would be bad for baseball.

 

Also think of the message the owners would be sending to the players. He has a reputation of being very popular with the players for the Mavericks. It probably wouldnt help the owners in negotiations with players if the players knew they were intentionaly not allowing an owner just because he was a "players owner'

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sorry about injecting some truth into this discussion, but just about everything talked about in this thread (from Cuban being a serious bidder to Selig shutting him out) is 100% speculation at this point. let's not get worked up over stuff we're mostly making up
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sorry about injecting some truth into this discussion, but just about everything talked about in this thread (from Cuban being a serious bidder to Selig shutting him out) is 100% speculation at this point. let's not get worked up over stuff we're mostly making up

 

There's definitely evidence to fuel the speculation in both cases, though. Especially in terms of Cuban being a serious bidder.

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sorry about injecting some truth into this discussion, but just about everything talked about in this thread (from Cuban being a serious bidder to Selig shutting him out) is 100% speculation at this point. let's not get worked up over stuff we're mostly making up

 

There's definitely evidence to fuel the speculation in both cases, though. Especially in terms of Cuban being a serious bidder.

 

evidence towards speculation =/= anything substantial though. i'll be worried about owner collusion if/when we actually have some bidders

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It makes me sick that MLB can and will keep us from getting our guy.. (or the guy getting us, I guess).

 

If Cuban went into this with a partner that has some local credibility and some clout with MLB, does anyone think that would make any difference in terms of his chances?

 

Has Bruce or anyone commented on the "MLB preventing Cuban buying the team" theory? Do you guys really think that Cuban would really attend a game and sit in the bleachers, if he had no chance at buying the team?

 

It seems to me that the Tribune would want to get as much money as possible for the team, and that an owner like Cuban would be good for the league.

 

The Cubs telling Comcast to keep him off the air certainly does nothing to dispute the idea.

 

Several of the articles that dismiss practically any possibility that Cuban would be approved by the MLB owners cite league sources. Who knows what the hell that means, but the idea certainly seems to hold water.

 

He only needs 75% approval, though, right?

 

 

That means 23 teams in favor. We know Reinsdorf is a "no." I'd guess Angelos, too. Who else?

 

I have to admit, I don't know a whole lot about the politics of MLB owners.

 

I don't know either, but if the Trib is really trying to squelch the Cuban bid then we definitely need Bruce to step up and write a good article for the PEOPLE!

 

Bruce! Bruce! Bruce!

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I think that if Cuban was the high bidder and MLB voted him down, it is going to turn into a public relations nightmare for them. Its not like Cuban isnt a successful Pro team owner already. Also whoever did buy the Cubs would be put into a very bad spot with the fans. I think the only way this turns out good for everyone is someone outbids Cuban or they let Cuban have it. Its not like Cuban would be bad for baseball.

 

Also think of the message the owners would be sending to the players. He has a reputation of being very popular with the players for the Mavericks. It probably wouldnt help the owners in negotiations with players if the players knew they were intentionaly not allowing an owner just because he was a "players owner'

 

thats a great point. i remember some of the cubs players already saying theyd love to have cuban as the owner. if they knew mlb screwed cuban, that couldnt work out well for the owners and mlb.

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I think that if Cuban was the high bidder and MLB voted him down, it is going to turn into a public relations nightmare for them. Its not like Cuban isnt a successful Pro team owner already. Also whoever did buy the Cubs would be put into a very bad spot with the fans. I think the only way this turns out good for everyone is someone outbids Cuban or they let Cuban have it. Its not like Cuban would be bad for baseball.

 

Also think of the message the owners would be sending to the players. He has a reputation of being very popular with the players for the Mavericks. It probably wouldnt help the owners in negotiations with players if the players knew they were intentionaly not allowing an owner just because he was a "players owner'

 

thats a great point. i remember some of the cubs players already saying theyd love to have cuban as the owner. if they knew mlb screwed cuban, that couldnt work out well for the owners and mlb.

 

But what would the repercussions be? Are the players going to strike if Cuban is muscled out? Are they going to hold a harder line during the next CB? Don't think so. Its all a PR standpoint, the players have no leverage in this situation because they won't do anything if they don't get their way and the league knows that.

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I think that if Cuban was the high bidder and MLB voted him down, it is going to turn into a public relations nightmare for them. Its not like Cuban isnt a successful Pro team owner already. Also whoever did buy the Cubs would be put into a very bad spot with the fans. I think the only way this turns out good for everyone is someone outbids Cuban or they let Cuban have it. Its not like Cuban would be bad for baseball.

 

Also think of the message the owners would be sending to the players. He has a reputation of being very popular with the players for the Mavericks. It probably wouldnt help the owners in negotiations with players if the players knew they were intentionaly not allowing an owner just because he was a "players owner'

 

thats a great point. i remember some of the cubs players already saying theyd love to have cuban as the owner. if they knew mlb screwed cuban, that couldnt work out well for the owners and mlb.

 

But what would the repercussions be? Are the players going to strike if Cuban is muscled out? Are they going to hold a harder line during the next CB? Don't think so. Its all a PR standpoint, the players have no leverage in this situation because they won't do anything if they don't get their way and the league knows that.

 

yeah theres really gonna be no repercussions. itll probably be just some bad feelings from the fans and players. and the league wont care about that in the first place.

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I think that if Cuban was the high bidder and MLB voted him down, it is going to turn into a public relations nightmare for them. Its not like Cuban isnt a successful Pro team owner already. Also whoever did buy the Cubs would be put into a very bad spot with the fans. I think the only way this turns out good for everyone is someone outbids Cuban or they let Cuban have it. Its not like Cuban would be bad for baseball.

 

Also think of the message the owners would be sending to the players. He has a reputation of being very popular with the players for the Mavericks. It probably wouldnt help the owners in negotiations with players if the players knew they were intentionaly not allowing an owner just because he was a "players owner'

 

thats a great point. i remember some of the cubs players already saying theyd love to have cuban as the owner. if they knew mlb screwed cuban, that couldnt work out well for the owners and mlb.

 

But what would the repercussions be? Are the players going to strike if Cuban is muscled out? Are they going to hold a harder line during the next CB? Don't think so. Its all a PR standpoint, the players have no leverage in this situation because they won't do anything if they don't get their way and the league knows that.

 

yeah theres really gonna be no repercussions. itll probably be just some bad feelings from the fans and players. and the league wont care about that in the first place.

 

don't forget that there is this govermental body, chaired by Arlen Specter, called the SEC. Specter is on record as being in favor of revoking MLB's anti-trust exemption. additionally, the Tribune Co. owes a fiduciary responsibility to stockholders to maximize profits, which would include any sale of assets (the Cubs/ Wrigley).

 

the Cubs are owned, and are being sold by a corporate entity, therefore, MLB's hands may very well be tied this time.

 

MLB, Selig, and concerned lawyers are well aware of this fact.

 

stay tuned. Cuban is fully in play, imho...

 

 

EDIT:

 

I misspoke. Specter is not the current chair of the Securities and Exchange Commission. However, Specter, and Senator John Kerry, remain interested by-standers, and influential players in this scenario.

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