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... and then withdrawn by the Cubs, according to Jayson Stark. Hmmm...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2976815&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

 

"Pitchers who have cleared: Steve Trachsel, Jose Contreras, Josh Towers, Odalis Perez.

 

Position players who have cleared: Troy Glaus, Jack Wilson, Pat Burrell, Dmitri Young, Omar Vizquel, Jeff Conine, Mike Piazza, Wily Mo Pena, Jason Lane.

 

Pitchers who were claimed and withdrawn: Jon Garland, Javier Vazquez, Dan Wheeler, Chad Qualls, David Riske, Kei Igawa, Matt Thornton.

 

Position players who were claimed and withdrawn: Miguel Tejada, Mark Loretta, Jacque Jones, Scott Hatteberg, Richie Sexson, Mike Lamb, Corey Patterson."

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... and then withdrawn by the Cubs, according to Jayson Stark. Hmmm...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2976815&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

 

"Pitchers who have cleared: Steve Trachsel, Jose Contreras, Josh Towers, Odalis Perez.

 

Position players who have cleared: Troy Glaus, Jack Wilson, Pat Burrell, Dmitri Young, Omar Vizquel, Jeff Conine, Mike Piazza, Wily Mo Pena, Jason Lane.

 

Pitchers who were claimed and withdrawn: Jon Garland, Javier Vazquez, Dan Wheeler, Chad Qualls, David Riske, Kei Igawa, Matt Thornton.

 

Position players who were claimed and withdrawn: Miguel Tejada, Mark Loretta, Jacque Jones, Scott Hatteberg, Richie Sexson, Mike Lamb, Corey Patterson."

 

Corey Patterson was claimed? AND Withdrawn?

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... and then withdrawn by the Cubs, according to Jayson Stark. Hmmm...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2976815&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

 

"Pitchers who have cleared: Steve Trachsel, Jose Contreras, Josh Towers, Odalis Perez.

 

Position players who have cleared: Troy Glaus, Jack Wilson, Pat Burrell, Dmitri Young, Omar Vizquel, Jeff Conine, Mike Piazza, Wily Mo Pena, Jason Lane.

 

Pitchers who were claimed and withdrawn: Jon Garland, Javier Vazquez, Dan Wheeler, Chad Qualls, David Riske, Kei Igawa, Matt Thornton.

 

Position players who were claimed and withdrawn: Miguel Tejada, Mark Loretta, Jacque Jones, Scott Hatteberg, Richie Sexson, Mike Lamb, Corey Patterson."

 

Corey Patterson was claimed? AND Withdrawn?

We should probably be thankful. Hendry is pry the one whole claimed him.

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I'm not surprised by the Cubs withdrawing him. They need him right now for the race.

 

As far as next season goes, Jones should have a little bit more value on the trade market if the Cubs want to trade him. He'll only have 1 year left as opposed to 1 1/2, and his recent play has probably convinced some teams wondering if he was simply done. I'm still not sure the Cubs could get much in return, but they can probably get out of his deal without paying anything just as much in December as they could have if they had let him go to the claiming team now.

 

As far as Patterson goes, his July was this: .340/.359/.510, and his August is this: .288/.328/.424. For somebody looking for outfield help, Patterson is not bad for a month and half stopgap, and remember whoever claims him can simply non-tender him in the offseason. I can understand why somebody claimed him-I'm not quite sure why the Orioles pulled him back.

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I'm not surprised by the Cubs withdrawing him. They need him right now for the race.

 

As far as next season goes, Jones should have a little bit more value on the trade market if the Cubs want to trade him. He'll only have 1 year left as opposed to 1 1/2, and his recent play has probably convinced some teams wondering if he was simply done. I'm still not sure the Cubs could get much in return, but they can probably get out of his deal without paying anything just as much in December as they could have if they had let him go to the claiming team now.

 

As far as Patterson goes, his July was this: .340/.359/.510, and his August is this: .288/.328/.424. For somebody looking for outfield help, Patterson is not bad for a month and half stopgap, and remember whoever claims him can simply non-tender him in the offseason. I can understand why somebody claimed him-I'm not quite sure why the Orioles pulled him back.

 

Maybe they didn't like what the claiming team was offering/had available?

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Ok Jim was close to a deal that had the Cubs eating all but $700,000 of his remaing contract. Jacque gets hot and now Jim has the opportunity for another team to eat $5M+ of that contract? Weird.
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I'm not surprised by the Cubs withdrawing him. They need him right now for the race.

 

As far as next season goes, Jones should have a little bit more value on the trade market if the Cubs want to trade him. He'll only have 1 year left as opposed to 1 1/2, and his recent play has probably convinced some teams wondering if he was simply done. I'm still not sure the Cubs could get much in return, but they can probably get out of his deal without paying anything just as much in December as they could have if they had let him go to the claiming team now.

 

As far as Patterson goes, his July was this: .340/.359/.510, and his August is this: .288/.328/.424. For somebody looking for outfield help, Patterson is not bad for a month and half stopgap, and remember whoever claims him can simply non-tender him in the offseason. I can understand why somebody claimed him-I'm not quite sure why the Orioles pulled him back.

 

Maybe they didn't like what the claiming team was offering/had available?

 

Must be it.

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Ok Jim was close to a deal that had the Cubs eating all but $700,000 of his remaing contract. Jacque gets hot and now Jim has the opportunity for another team to eat $5M+ of that contract? Weird.

 

Which is why the Marlins trade was really really dumb from our side.

Posted
Ok Jim was close to a deal that had the Cubs eating all but $700,000 of his remaing contract. Jacque gets hot and now Jim has the opportunity for another team to eat $5M+ of that contract? Weird.

 

Which is why the Marlins trade was really really dumb from our side.

 

And I'm now really happy that trade fell through.

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... and then withdrawn by the Cubs, according to Jayson Stark. Hmmm...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2976815&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

 

"Pitchers who have cleared: Steve Trachsel, Jose Contreras, Josh Towers, Odalis Perez.

 

Position players who have cleared: Troy Glaus, Jack Wilson, Pat Burrell, Dmitri Young, Omar Vizquel, Jeff Conine, Mike Piazza, Wily Mo Pena, Jason Lane.

 

Pitchers who were claimed and withdrawn: Jon Garland, Javier Vazquez, Dan Wheeler, Chad Qualls, David Riske, Kei Igawa, Matt Thornton.

 

Position players who were claimed and withdrawn: Miguel Tejada, Mark Loretta, Jacque Jones, Scott Hatteberg, Richie Sexson, Mike Lamb, Corey Patterson."

 

There's got to be a lot more players on this list. It doesn't mention the much ballyhooed Scott Podsednik claim by the Cubs for example.

 

Is there any way to know when Jones was waived? If it happened before Soriano's injury that makes more sense. I still doubt that they really wanted to go with Pie and Pagan in CF the rest of the way.

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... and then withdrawn by the Cubs, according to Jayson Stark. Hmmm...

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/columns/story?columnist=stark_jayson&id=2976815&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines

 

 

"Pitchers who have cleared: Steve Trachsel, Jose Contreras, Josh Towers, Odalis Perez.

 

Position players who have cleared: Troy Glaus, Jack Wilson, Pat Burrell, Dmitri Young, Omar Vizquel, Jeff Conine, Mike Piazza, Wily Mo Pena, Jason Lane.

 

Pitchers who were claimed and withdrawn: Jon Garland, Javier Vazquez, Dan Wheeler, Chad Qualls, David Riske, Kei Igawa, Matt Thornton.

 

Position players who were claimed and withdrawn: Miguel Tejada, Mark Loretta, Jacque Jones, Scott Hatteberg, Richie Sexson, Mike Lamb, Corey Patterson."

 

There's got to be a lot more players on this list. It doesn't mention the much ballyhooed Scott Podsednik claim by the Cubs for example.

 

Is there any way to know when Jones was waived? If it happened before Soriano's injury that makes more sense. I still doubt that they really wanted to go with Pie and Pagan in CF the rest of the way.

 

It gets mentioned all the time: a player being placed on waivers does not mean the team is actively trying to get rid of him

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It gets mentioned all the time: a player being placed on waivers does not mean the team is actively trying to get rid of him

 

It turns into a bit of a poker game. Remember when the Red Sox put Manny Ramirez on waivers a couple of years ago?

 

I think the Cubs were more or less just trying to strike the iron and see how hot it was.

Posted
Ok Jim was close to a deal that had the Cubs eating all but $700,000 of his remaing contract. Jacque gets hot and now Jim has the opportunity for another team to eat $5M+ of that contract? Weird.

 

Which is why the Marlins trade was really really dumb from our side.

 

And I'm now really happy that trade fell through.

 

I had no problems with dumping Jones at the time. I had a huge problem paying for the privilege. I figured there would be regression to the mean but I didn't expect him to turn into June '98 Sammy Sosa. I always had a soft spot for JJ since Fantasyland.

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