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7/8 Cubs (ZAMBRANO) @ Pirates (YOUMAN), 12:35 CT CSN

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This team will not win with this black hole at catcher. Fix it Hendry and not with Hank after his rehab start.

 

Relax. Barrett was a good hitting catcher and the pitchers had an ERA of over 5 with him as a catcher, while Blanco/Hill saw an ERA of around 2.00. Besides, they have been winning since they traded Barrett.

 

They have been winning in spite of the catchers terrible offense.

 

Didn't Hill throw one into center that kept that inning alive that turned into the 3 runs for the Pirates, too?

 

Hill's defense is also horrid. We traded away the worst catcher in the division for the worst in the world.

 

We didnt trade Barrett for hill, though.

 

But I agree. Barrett was having a bad year. But he was still hitting far better than Bowen and Hill combined.

 

And, yes, barrett's defense was pretty bad, but Hill and Bowen havent shown they are too much better. I'd wager that Barrett would have thrown out that baserunner today.

 

Yeah, I worded that incorrectly but you get my meaning :)

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This team will not win with this black hole at catcher. Fix it Hendry and not with Hank after his rehab start.

 

Relax. Barrett was a good hitting catcher and the pitchers had an ERA of over 5 with him as a catcher, while Blanco/Hill saw an ERA of around 2.00. Besides, they have been winning since they traded Barrett.

 

They have been winning in spite of the catchers terrible offense.

 

Thats because defense/pitching is more important for a catcher. You also havent had the bullpen meltdowns, boneheaded throws, and passed balls you had with Barrett. When you think about it, catchers call pitches, can deny runners from moving into scoring position by throwing out runners and plus they guard the most important base on the field. It takes a lot of offense from a catcher to outweigh all of that.

I don't have the numbers on how many throws Barrett sent into the outfield, but I know there have already been two in his absence. There has not been anywhere near enough defense from our catchers to make their "offense" acceptable.

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This team will not win with this black hole at catcher. Fix it Hendry and not with Hank after his rehab start.

 

Relax. Barrett was a good hitting catcher and the pitchers had an ERA of over 5 with him as a catcher, while Blanco/Hill saw an ERA of around 2.00. Besides, they have been winning since they traded Barrett.

 

They have been winning in spite of the catchers terrible offense.

 

Didn't Hill throw one into center that kept that inning alive that turned into the 3 runs for the Pirates, too?

 

Hill's defense is also horrid. We traded away the worst catcher in the division for the worst in the world.

 

We didnt trade Barrett for hill, though.

 

But I agree. Barrett was having a bad year. But he was still hitting far better than Bowen and Hill combined.

 

And, yes, barrett's defense was pretty bad, but Hill and Bowen havent shown they are too much better. I'd wager that Barrett would have thrown out that baserunner today.

 

Actually, he wasnt. I can remember several times when he would whiff at a pitch in the strike zone that the batter didnt swing at. Barretts shorcomings have been obscured by a myriad of other problems though...that and he has always been given the benefit of the doubt by reporters since he has been a stand up guy. I think Barrett was a quality person but a liability as a catcher.

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TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING

 

Soriano popped out to shortstop

Theriot popped out (foul) to first base

Lee flied out to deep right field

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
CUBS            0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0                2  6  1
Pittsburgh      0 0 3 0 0 0 0                  3  4  0

 

Home runs:

CUBS: none

Pittsburgh: Bay (13)

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Zambrano      7.0  4  3  3  3  5  1 123

 

Pittsburgh     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Youman        6.0  5  1  1  2  1  0  91
Chacon        2.0  0  0  0  0  1  0  19

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