Could the Braves Have the Answer?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

No,, not Salty.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Jarrod, but we could also use a bat at SS.

 

The Braves have these two players:

 

Player A: 309/340/423

 

Player B: 321/385/487

 

Both are shortstops, though one is logging some time at third due to the fragile Larry Jones.

 

For those who don't know, player A is Yunel Escobar and player B is Edgar Renteria.

 

Both would be significant upgrades. I'm not sure if the Braves would move either. There's definitely no need for them to unless they greatly improve their team in some fashion. Escobar is young and versatile.

 

On the other hand, if they wanted to free up some payroll, the could deal Renteria to free up money for another acquisiton.

 

What does everyone think?

[killthegoat06]

I'm still mad at Renteria, but I'd love to acquire him if we don't give up too much.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

Edgar can suck it.

 

And I'm sure he'd probably go back to being a 90 OPS+ player if the Cubs traded for him.

Edited July 5, 2007 by Locke's Eye Scar

[dew1679666265]

No,, not Salty.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Jarrod, but we could also use a bat at SS.

 

The Braves have these two players:

 

Player A: 309/340/423

 

Player B: 321/385/487

 

Both are shortstops, though one is logging some time at third due to the fragile Larry Jones.

 

For those who don't know, player A is Yunel Escobar and player B is Edgar Renteria.

 

Both would be significant upgrades. I'm not sure if the Braves would move either. There's definitely no need for them to unless they greatly improve their team in some fashion. Escobar is young and versatile.

 

On the other hand, if they wanted to free up some payroll, the could deal Renteria to free up money for another acquisiton.

 

What does everyone think?

 

I'd love Renteria, but the same ol' question remains: can we take on his salary?

 

As for Escobar, I see no reason why they wouldn't trade him. Chipper's at third for the forseeable future, Renteria is a mainstay at short as is Kelly Johnson at second. They like Thorman at first and have also tried Salty there. The only way I see him fitting into their future at all is if they try to dump Renteria or if they see Escobar replacing Chipper - though that day likely won't come soon enough for Yunel to be the replacement.

 

So after all that, I like your idea vance. :D Now just to figure out what the Braves will want.

[dew1679666265]

I'm still mad at Renteria, but I'd love to acquire him if we don't give up too much.

 

If he were to help push us into the playoffs and hopefully further, I'm sure you could find it in your heart to forgive him. :D

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Renteria's salary shouldn't be much of a problem. Boston is already paying a portion of it.

 

I could see a complex three-way deal that could net Renteria. The same could be done with less players to get Escobar.

 

If the Braves are comfortable enough with Escobar at short to deal Edgar, I'd send players (Veal or Holliman, Fox, others) to Texas for Gagne and then send Gagne to the Braves for Edgar.

 

The deal would likely be a lot more complex than what I described, but that's one way to try to get something done.

[killthegoat06]

Renteria's salary shouldn't be much of a problem. Boston is already paying a portion of it.

 

I could see a complex three-way deal that could net Renteria. The same could be done with less players to get Escobar.

 

If the Braves are comfortable enough with Escobar at short to deal Edgar, I'd send players (Veal or Holliman, Fox, others) to Texas for Gagne and then send Gagne to the Braves for Edgar.

 

The deal would likely be a lot more complex than what I described, but that's one way to try to get something done.

 

Send it to Hendry. Add a $20 bill and instructions to not eat it.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

[dew1679666265]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

[killthegoat06]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

Would Hendry be smart enought to think of this on his own though?

[Bruno7481]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Aweome, call up the Braves board and get the paperwork headed to the commissioner's office.

 

Does the Braves board have Schuerholz's POA?

 

:wink:

[rawaction]

I believe I invented the Renteria scenario. Before the season I wanted to deal Jones and Marshall for Renteria. But Jones can't hit his weight and Marshall has become somewhat of a necessity. At the time, the Braves were iffy in the OF (Langerhans turned out to suck, but Diaz and Harris have been great in LF out of nowhere), and had a hole at 5th starter.

 

They still have that hole, and I don't really see them making a deal unless they can add a big time starter, who is in his pre-or early arbitration years.

 

I do think the Braves would rather deal Renteria, because of his salary. They aren't gonna be taking on any salary, as has been the case in recent years. I don't see anyway for something to work out with the Cubs unless they Hill or Marshall and in Sean's case add in a pretty big time prospect.

[dew1679666265]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

[CubColtPacer]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

 

I think that Vance believes that Marshall is worth more than Escobar. Izzy would be filler to give them a backup SS and then one of those two would make up for the difference in the quality of the centerpiece players.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

 

I doubt Reyes, unless he gets bombed on Sunday while filling in for Smoltz.

 

Ascanio? I'm not sure. I'd like Harrison too, but I don't see them dealing him at all. I'd take Moises Hernandez as well.

 

I wonder if the Braves might want Fox and give him some time at firstbase.

[gerby23]

 

Would Hendry be smart enought to think of this on his own though?

I hate this question. Not because you asked it, but simply because it has to be asked and the likely answer is no.

[Skyballer]

I'm still mad at Renteria, but I'd love to acquire him if we don't give up too much.

 

If he were to help push us into the playoffs and hopefully further, I'm sure you could find it in your heart to forgive him. :D

I couldn't, he clearly wasn't thrown at, he got our starter ejected for no good reason and then punches Fontenot in the jaw. No to Edgar.

[Skyballer]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

Throw in Jones, forget Reyes and add Saltalamacchia(spelling?)

[photoguy9883]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

Throw in Jones, forget Reyes and add Saltalamacchia(spelling?)

 

Why don't we demand they throw in Chuck James while we're at it. I'm sure Koyie Hill would more than make up the difference. :roll:

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Unless we're going big for an upgrade at SS(A-Rod, Tejada before he was hurt) or C(Saltalamacchia/McCann), I think we're much better served to give an extended look to Cedeno and Soto respectively. Edited July 6, 2007 by Transmogrified Tiger

[Skyballer]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

Throw in Jones, forget Reyes and add Saltalamacchia(spelling?)

 

Why don't we demand they throw in Chuck James while we're at it. I'm sure Koyie Hill would more than make up the difference. :roll:

Good idea :lol:

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Did a check around the Braves board, and there seems to be some sentiment that Escobar could be traded for a "decent" starting pitcher.

 

Marshall for Escobar? Then bring up either Guzman or Gallagher to start? I think I would like that.

 

I'd hope we could enlarge the deal a bit. Marshall + Izturis + cash for Escobar and Reyes or Ascanio.

 

You think Izturis could pull in Ascanio or Reyes? I like both (especially Reyes) but I really doubt Izzy would pull either of them.

Throw in Jones, forget Reyes and add Saltalamacchia(spelling?)

 

Like the Braves would do that. For the most part, Salty is untouchable.

 

I think the Braves would respond, throw in Zambrano and Pie and you have a deal.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

if the Braves were smart they'd trade McCann and keep Salty

[Skyballer]

if the Braves were smart they'd trade McCann and keep Salty

Or try McAnn at first.