7/3 CUBS (Zambrano) vs Nat's (Redding), 6:05pm CT, WGN-TV

[Shilzzz]

Still no Pie.

 

Maybe we should send him back down.

 

If this little breather lasts through the break, then definitely.

 

Lou seems to think the bench time helped Riot - said his bat looked slow so he gave him a few days off. He is probably thinking the same thing will work with Pie.

 

The difference of course is Theriot doesn't really have much of a future, he's either going to stick as a utility guy or not. There's no need to try and get him over slumps by playing. Plus, he never sat 4 days in a row. He had a week where played every other day. Pie is pretty much the 25th man.

 

jones is closer to 25th man status than pie right now. guarantee pie comes in to pinch hit/run before jones.

 

That said, he needs to be starting again.

 

oh i don't disagree with that.

[Keener98]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

In Lou's defense, the same mentality that's keeping Pie out of the lineup are also keeping Jock and Iz-sucksatbaseball-is out of the lineup.

 

Not really. The mentality that keeps Izturis and Jones on the bench is they are proven failure who offer nothing to the team now or in the future. While Pie is a kid who may have a future if he works through struggles.

 

Lou is trying to help Pie work through his struggles, only not in games. He's got him working on a "toe tap" move in the cage and in batting practice to keep him from "twisting" too much. Identifying and attempting to solve problems are things that weren't done here with young players the last few years.

 

Well thats good to hear that Lou is working with him, and not just letting him try work through it on his own. When you say "toe tap" are you meaning Sosa style or different?

[treebird]

Identifying and attempting to solve problems are things that weren't done here with young players the last few years.

 

haha, nice

[98navigator]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher and CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just sitting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

Edited July 3, 2007 by 98navigator

[Keener98]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher ands CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just siting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

 

With our shortstops and catchers on this roster, that is very unlikely to happen ever.

[Bruce Miles]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

In Lou's defense, the same mentality that's keeping Pie out of the lineup are also keeping Jock and Iz-sucksatbaseball-is out of the lineup.

 

Not really. The mentality that keeps Izturis and Jones on the bench is they are proven failure who offer nothing to the team now or in the future. While Pie is a kid who may have a future if he works through struggles.

 

Lou is trying to help Pie work through his struggles, only not in games. He's got him working on a "toe tap" move in the cage and in batting practice to keep him from "twisting" too much. Identifying and attempting to solve problems are things that weren't done here with young players the last few years.

 

Well thats good to hear that Lou is working with him, and not just letting him try work through it on his own. When you say "toe tap" are you meaning Sosa style or different?

 

Something similar. It was hard to follow Lou's dance step when he was demonstrating it in the dugout.

[otis89]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

In Lou's defense, the same mentality that's keeping Pie out of the lineup are also keeping Jock and Iz-sucksatbaseball-is out of the lineup.

 

Not really. The mentality that keeps Izturis and Jones on the bench is they are proven failure who offer nothing to the team now or in the future. While Pie is a kid who may have a future if he works through struggles.

 

Lou is trying to help Pie work through his struggles, only not in games. He's got him working on a "toe tap" move in the cage and in batting practice to keep him from "twisting" too much. Identifying and attempting to solve problems are things that weren't done here with young players the last few years.

 

Well thats good to hear that Lou is working with him, and not just letting him try work through it on his own. When you say "toe tap" are you meaning Sosa style or different?

 

Something similar. It was hard to follow Lou's dance step when he was demonstrating it in the dugout.

 

Bruce, you are awesome.

[98navigator]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher ands CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just siting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

 

With our shortstops and catchers on this roster, that is very unlikely to happen ever.

 

I disagree. DeRo can play SS too and Riot goes through hot streaks where he can be productive offensively.

[Keener98]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

In Lou's defense, the same mentality that's keeping Pie out of the lineup are also keeping Jock and Iz-sucksatbaseball-is out of the lineup.

 

Not really. The mentality that keeps Izturis and Jones on the bench is they are proven failure who offer nothing to the team now or in the future. While Pie is a kid who may have a future if he works through struggles.

 

Lou is trying to help Pie work through his struggles, only not in games. He's got him working on a "toe tap" move in the cage and in batting practice to keep him from "twisting" too much. Identifying and attempting to solve problems are things that weren't done here with young players the last few years.

 

Well thats good to hear that Lou is working with him, and not just letting him try work through it on his own. When you say "toe tap" are you meaning Sosa style or different?

 

Something similar. It was hard to follow Lou's dance step when he was demonstrating it in the dugout.

 

Lol tango, 2 step, or Lambada(no Aram doesnt want to dance with you Izturis)!

[Keener98]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher ands CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just siting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

 

With our shortstops and catchers on this roster, that is very unlikely to happen ever.

 

I disagree. DeRo can play SS too and Riot goes through hot streaks where he can be productive offensively.

 

I wont call DeRo a SS untill he plays more than a half game there. Im guessing if Lou really thought he could handle it everyday, the move would have been made.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Greetings one and all from beautiful Adairsville, GA !!! (I escaped from Atlanta.... but man, there sure are a whole bunch of crazy people on I-75 today !!!)

 

Worthless stats of the day for Tuesday.............

 

CUBS are 4-8 on Tuesdays

CUBS are 4-0 vs. Washington

CUBS are 10-13 vs. the NLE Division

CUBS are 5-5 when they've lost their last 2 game(s) in a row

CUBS are 20-20 when they've won their previous game

CUBS are 16-19 at night

CUBS are 21-19 on the road

CUBS are 33-29 against right handers

CUBS are 20-17 when WGN broadcasts the game

CUBS are 30-12 when they get a quality start.... 11-28 when they don't

CUBS are 16-21 when the opponent gets a quality start.... 25-19 when they don't

CUBS are 32-17 when they score first in the game.... 9-23 when they don't

CUBS are 20-14 when they score in the first inning.... 21-26 when they don't

CUBS are 35-24 when they don't allow any runs is the first inning.... 6-16 when they do

CUBS are 33-18 when they score at least 4 runs.... 8-22 when they don't

CUBS are 31-6 when they allow fewer than 4 runs.... 10-34 when they don't

CUBS are 37-12 when they outhit the opponents.... 2-17 when they get outhit.... and 2-9 when the hits are even

CUBS are 9-6 when their pitcher gets a hit.... 32-34 when he doesn't

CUBS are 10-15 in one run games.... 7-8 in two run games

CUBS are 24-21 when the temperature is 70 degrees or above.... 17-19 when it's less than 70 degrees

CUBS are 28-15 when their pitchers average 15 pitches per inning or less..... 13-25 when they don't

CUBS are 8-14 when they throw more pitches than the opponent.... 16-12 when they throw fewer pitches than the opponent.... 17-14 when the pitch counts are even.

CUBS are 18-15 when they average 3.6 P/PA or fewer.... 23-25 when they don't

CUBS are 28-25 when the opponent's starter pitches 6-1/3 inning or less.... 13-15 when he doesn't

CUBS are 24-28 when Barrett starts... 3-7 when Blanco starts... 9-4 when K. Hill starts... 5-1 when Bowen starts

CUBS have 23 SB in their last 30 games

CUBS have GIDP'd 23 times in their last 30 games

CUBS are on a pace to win 82 games this year..... compared to 66 last year and 79 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to score 752 runs this year..... compared to 716 last year and 703 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to hit 148 homeruns this year..... compared to 166 last year and 194 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to draw 494 walks this year..... compared to 395 last year and 419 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to strike out 1070 times this year..... compared to 928 last year and 920 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to steal 96 bases this year..... compared to 121 last year and 64 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to ground into 120 double plays this year..... compared to 135 last year and 129 in '05

CUBS are on a pace to commit 96 errors this year..... compared to 104 last year and 100 in '05

CUBS are scoring 4.64 runs per game...... compared to 4.42 last year and 4.34 in '05

CUBS are seeing 3.72 pitches per plate appearance...... compared to 3.68 last year and 3.61 in '05

CUBS are drving in 18.6% of their runners on base...... compared to 20.0% last year and 18.4% in '05

CUBS are scoring 0.363 runs per baserunner...... compared to 0.370 last year and 0.365 in '05

CUBS are getting extra base hits at a 34.0% rate...... compared to 32.3% last year and 35.8 in '05

 

CUBS are 9-8 when Zambrano starts

Zambrano is 9 of 17 in quality starts

Zambrano's ERA pitching to Barrett is 7.53.... to Blanco it's 3.27.... to K. Hill it's 1.52.... to Bowen it's 1.13

CUBS score 4.64 R/G overall.... 4.94 R/G when Zambrano pitches

CUBS hit 0.91 HR/G overall.... 1.24 HR/G when Zambrano pitches

 

CUBS' offensive support of Zambrano.....

 

04/02 - 07/02      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
CUBS w/Zambrano   582   84  151   38    4   21  260   78   52  102  0.259  0.319  0.447  0.766
CUBS overall     2866  376  773  170   19   74 1203  358  247  535  0.270  0.329  0.420  0.749

 

Composite scoring in games started by Zambrano.........

 

                  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16    Total

CUBS             11  12  11   8   8  13   5  11   5   0   0   0   0   0   0   0      84
Opponents        14   2   4   3  17   6  14   6   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0      68

 

Zambrano's starts this year (9-6)

 

Zambrano                IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
04/02  vs. Cincy       5.0    6    5    5    5    2    2    92  9.00  3.60  3.60  2.20  9.00
04/07  vs. Milw        7.0    5    3    3    2    6    2   109  2.57  7.71  2.57  1.00  3.86
04/13  vs. Cincy       4.0    6    6    6    4    2    0    87  9.00  4.50  0.00  2.50 13.50
04/18  vs. Atla        6.0    8    5    5    5    6    2   113  7.50  9.00  3.00  2.17  7.50
04/23  vs. Milw        5.3    5    2    2    3    7    1   103  5.06 11.81  1.69  1.50  3.38
04/28  vs. St. L       7.0    7    1    1    0    2    1   113  0.00  2.57  1.29  1.00  1.29
05/04  vs. Wash        6.0    6    4    4    3    4    1   104  4.50  6.00  1.50  1.50  6.00
05/10  vs. Pitts       6.0    7    6    4    2    6    1   117  3.00  9.00  1.50  1.50  6.00
05/15  vs. Mets        8.0    6    1    1    3    3    1   116  3.38  3.38  1.13  1.13  1.13
05/20  vs. CWS         6.7    6    7    7    4    5    1   117  5.40  6.75  1.35  1.50  9.45
05/26  vs. L.A.        7.7    8    2    2    1    8    1   125  1.17  9.39  1.17  1.17  2.35
06/01  vs. Atla        5.0   13    7    6    2    0    0    97  3.60  0.00  0.00  3.00 10.80
06/06  vs. Milw        6.7    5    2    2    3    9    1   117  4.05 12.15  1.35  1.20  2.70
06/11  vs. Houst       8.0    3    1    0    1    8    0   128  1.13  9.00  0.00  0.50  0.00
06/16  vs. S.D.        9.0    2    1    1    5    6    1   123  5.00  6.00  1.00  0.78  1.00
06/22  vs. CWS         8.0    3    1    1    1   12    1   113  1.13 13.50  1.13  0.50  1.13
06/27  vs. Colo        6.0    5    2    2    3    8    0   107  4.50 12.00  0.00  1.33  3.00

Home                  56.0   53   36   32   27   46    5   983  4.34  7.39  0.80  1.43  5.14
Road                  55.3   48   20   20   20   48   11   898  3.25  7.81  1.79  1.23  3.25

Day                   84.0   79   47   44   35   70   12  1421  3.75  7.50  1.29  1.36  4.71
Nite                  27.3   22    9    8   12   24    4   460  3.95  7.90  1.32  1.24  2.63

totals  vs. Wash       6.0    6    4    4    3    4    1   104  4.50  6.00  1.50  1.50  6.00

last 5 starts         37.7   18    7    6   13   43    3   588  3.11 10.27  0.72  0.82  1.43

season totals        111.3  101   56   52   47   94   16  1881  3.80  7.60  1.29  1.33  4.20

 

Zambrano's starts vs. Washington last year (1-0).......

 

Zambrano                IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
05/16  vs. Wash        8.0    4    0    0    2    8    0   122  2.25  9.00  0.00  0.75  0.00

season totals        214.0  162   91   81  115  210   20  3624  4.84  8.83  0.84  1.29  3.41

 

CUBS' bullpen load during the last week.....

 

              Mon        Sun        Sat        Fri        Thurs      Wed        Tues          Totals
             01 Jul     30 Jun     29 Jun     28 Jun     27 Jun     26 Jun     26 Jun
             vs Wash   vs Milw    vs Milw    vs Milw    no game    vs Colo    vs Colo 
pitcher        IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit        IP Pit

Dempster                                                                                             
Eyre                                2.0  52                                                   2.0  52
Howry         1.0  19                          1.0  22                                        2.0  41
Ohman                               2.0  32                          0.3   2    0.3   2       2.7  36
Wuertz                              1.0  21    2.0  22                          2.0  26       5.0  69
Marmol                   2.0  23               1.0  10               1.0  13    0.7  23       4.7  69
Petrick       1.0  15                          2.0  28               1.7  29                  4.7  72
Cherry                              2.0  33                                                   2.0  33

Totals        2.0  34    2.0  23    7.0 138    6.0  82               3.0  44    3.0  51      23.0 372

 

CUBS' season series vs. Washington this year (3-0).....

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter         Opp Starter
27  Fri 05/04    Washington        6- 4  Zambrano        Bergmann      
28  Sat 05/05    Washington        5- 3  Hill            Patterson     
29  Sun 05/06    Washington        4- 3  Guzman          Hill          
81  Mon 07/02  @ Washington        7- 2  Lilly           Simontacchi   
82  Tue 07/03  @ Washington         -    Zambrano        Redding         
83  Wed 07/04  @ Washington         -    Hill            Chico         
84  Thu 07/05  @ Washington         -    Marshall        Bergmann     

 

CUBS hitters vs. Washington this year.....

 

vs. Wash           AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP
Ward                2    0    2    0    0    0    2    1    0    0  1.000  1.000  1.000  2.000  1.000
Blanco              1    0    1    0    0    0    1    0    0    0  1.000  1.000  1.000  2.000  1.000
Izturis             4    1    2    1    0    0    3    0    2    0  0.500  0.714  0.750  1.464  0.500
Lee                13    4    4    0    0    1    7    2    5    0  0.308  0.550  0.538  1.088  0.250
Jones              12    3    5    2    0    0    7    2    1    2  0.417  0.462  0.583  1.045  0.500
Pagan               4    0    2    0    0    0    2    0    0    1  0.500  0.500  0.500  1.000  0.667
Ramirez            18    3    6    2    0    1   11    3    1    5  0.333  0.368  0.611  0.980  0.417
Floyd               6    1    2    0    0    0    2    1    2    1  0.333  0.500  0.333  0.833  0.400
DeRosa             13    0    4    1    0    0    5    5    2    2  0.308  0.400  0.385  0.785  0.364
Soriano            20    3    6    1    0    0    7    2    0    5  0.300  0.300  0.350  0.650  0.400
Murton              6    2    1    1    0    0    2    0    1    0  0.167  0.286  0.333  0.619  0.167
Theriot            12    2    2    0    0    0    2    2    4    0  0.167  0.375  0.167  0.542  0.167
Pie                 5    0    1    0    0    0    1    1    0    1  0.200  0.200  0.200  0.400  0.250
Barrett            13    1    2    0    0    0    2    0    0    2  0.154  0.154  0.154  0.308  0.182
Bowen               3    1    0    0    0    0    0    1    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000

totals vs. Wash   139   22   40    8    0    2   54   21   19   21  0.288  0.383  0.388  0.771  0.328

season totals    2866  374  773  168   19   74 1201  358  246  534  0.270  0.329  0.419  0.748  0.310

 

CUBS pitchers vs. Milwaukee this year......

 

vs. Wash             IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Dempster            3.0    2    0    0    1    4    0    48  3.00 12.00  0.00  1.00  0.00
Cotts               2.0    1    0    0    3    5    0    50 13.50 22.50  0.00  2.00  0.00
Ohman               1.0    1    0    0    1    2    0    27  9.00 18.00  0.00  2.00  0.00
Petrick             1.0    0    0    0    0    1    0    15  0.00  9.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Lilly               7.0    3    1    1    3    5    0   115  3.86  6.43  0.00  0.86  1.29
R Hill              6.0    6    1    1    1    4    0    94  1.50  6.00  0.00  1.17  1.50
Guzman              5.0    2    1    1    2    3    0    82  3.60  5.40  0.00  0.80  1.80
Howry               3.7    4    1    1    1    1    0    51  2.45  2.45  0.00  1.36  2.45
Zambrano            6.0    6    4    4    3    4    1   104  4.50  6.00  1.50  1.50  6.00
Eyre                1.3    1    1    1    2    2    0    28 13.50 13.50  0.00  2.25  6.75
Wuertz              0.3    1    1    1    1    0    0    10 27.00  0.00  0.00  6.00 27.00
Cherry              0.7    2    2    2    0    1    0    16  0.00 13.50  0.00  3.00 27.00

totals vs. Wash    37.0   29   12   12   18   32    1   640  4.38  7.78  0.24  1.27  2.92

season totals     733.3  658  344  321  269  619   89 11718  3.30  7.60  1.09  1.26  3.94

 

CUBS' last 21 games (14-7)..............

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter         Opp Starter
61  Sun 06/10  @ Atlanta       N   4- 5  Lilly           Carlyle       
62  Mon 06/11    Houston       N   2- 1  Zambrano        Williams      
63  Tue 06/12    Seattle       N   3- 5  Hill            Washburn      
64  Wed 06/13    Seattle       N   3- 2  Marshall        Batista       
65  Thu 06/14    Seattle           5- 4  Marquis         Weaver        
66  Fri 06/15    San Diego         4- 1  Lilly           Wells         
67  Sat 06/16    San Diego         0- 1  Zambrano        Young         
68  Sun 06/17    San Diego         3-11  Hill            Maddux        
69  Tue 06/19  @ Texas         N   5- 4  Marshall        Tejeda        
70  Wed 06/20  @ Texas         N   3- 7  Marquis         Loe          
71  Thu 06/21  @ Texas             5- 6  Lilly           Padilla       
72  Fri 06/22  @ Chicago (AL)      5- 1  Zambrano        Beuhrle       
73  Sat 06/23  @ Chicago (AL)      2- 1  Hill            Vazquez       
74  Sun 06/24  @ Chicago (AL)      3- 0  Marshall        Contreras     
75  Mon 06/25    Colorado      N  10- 9  Marquis         Francis       
76  Tue 06/26    Colorado      N   8- 5  Lilly           Lopez         
77  Wed 06/27    Colorado          6- 4  Zambrano        Hirsch        
78  Fri 06/29    Milwaukee         6- 5  Hill            Gallardo      
79  Sat 06/30    Milwaukee         4-13  Marshall        Sheets        
80  Sun 07/01    Milwaukee         5- 1  Marquis         Bush          
81  Mon 07/02  @ Washington        7- 2  Lilly           Simontacchi   

 

Composite scoring during the last 21 games.........

 

                  1   2   3   4   5   6   7   8   9  10  11  12  13  14  15  16    Total

CUBS             21   4  13   8  14  12   7   5   9   0   0   0   0   0   0   0      93
Opponents        16  10  11   4  10  12   3   7  13   0   0   0   2   0   0   0      88

 

CUBS' hitters during the last 21 games......

 

06/10 - 07/02      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP
Ramirez            37    7   14    5    1    2   27   10    0    2  0.378  0.368  0.730  1.098  0.364
Fontenot           78   14   30    7    3    3   52   14    4   11  0.385  0.410  0.667  1.076  0.422
Ward               10    2    5    0    0    0    5    0    1    3  0.500  0.545  0.500  1.045  0.714
Lee                73   11   26    6    1    0   34    6   10   15  0.356  0.448  0.466  0.914  0.448
DeRosa             70    9   24    5    0    1   32   15    7    9  0.343  0.397  0.457  0.855  0.383
Barrett            24    4    8    1    0    1   12    3    0    3  0.333  0.333  0.500  0.833  0.350
Soriano            90   14   24    6    0    5   45   10    6   17  0.267  0.309  0.500  0.809  0.279
Floyd              45    6   12    1    0    1   16    5    7    8  0.267  0.365  0.356  0.721  0.306
Pagan              41    3   11    2    0    1   16    7    3    9  0.268  0.311  0.390  0.701  0.323
Izturis            33    0    9    4    0    0   13    2    0    3  0.273  0.273  0.394  0.667  0.300
Theriot            51    8   13    5    0    0   18    4    4    2  0.255  0.309  0.353  0.662  0.265
K Hill             37    3    8    2    0    1   13    5    4    6  0.216  0.286  0.351  0.637  0.233
Jones              25    3    4    2    0    0    6    1    1    6  0.160  0.192  0.240  0.432  0.211
Pie                57    4    7    0    2    0   11    6    7   15  0.123  0.219  0.193  0.412  0.167
Bowen              20    2    1    0    0    0    1    2    4   10  0.050  0.200  0.050  0.250  0.100
Murton              4    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000

last 21 games     725   91  198   46    7   16  306   91   59  132  0.273  0.327  0.422  0.749  0.315

season totals    2866  374  773  168   19   74 1201  358  246  534  0.270  0.329  0.419  0.748  0.310

 

CUBS' pitchers during the last 21 games......

 

06/10 - 07/02        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Cherry              2.0    1    1    0    1    2    0    33  4.50  9.00  0.00  1.00  0.00
Rapada              0.3    0    0    0    0    0    0     7  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Zambrano           31.0   13    5    4   10   34    2   471  2.90  9.87  0.58  0.74  1.16
Marmol             14.3   13    3    3    4   23    1   240  2.51 14.44  0.63  1.19  1.88
Lilly              28.7   21   11   11   10   25    3   434  3.14  7.85  0.94  1.08  3.45
Howry              12.7   11    5    5    4   12    1   195  2.84  8.53  0.71  1.18  3.55
Wuertz              9.7   10    4    4    4    8    2   144  3.72  7.45  1.86  1.45  3.72
Dempster            7.0    4    3    3    4    7    0   110  5.14  9.00  0.00  1.14  3.86
Ohman               9.3   11    4    4    2    9    1   159  1.93  8.68  0.96  1.39  3.86
Petrick             4.7    2    2    2    1    5    1    72  1.93  9.64  1.93  0.64  3.86
Marquis            23.0   18   14   11    9   18    3   351  3.52  7.04  1.17  1.17  4.30
Marshall           20.3   23   13   12    6   10    4   299  2.66  4.43  1.77  1.43  5.31
Eyre                6.7    8    5    5    4    5    0   130  5.40  6.75  0.00  1.80  6.75
R Hill             18.3   24   14   14    6   16    5   332  2.95  7.85  2.45  1.64  6.87
Gallagher           2.3    2    4    4    3    3    1    45 11.57 11.57  3.86  2.14 15.43

last 21 games     190.3  161   88   82   68  177   24  3022  3.22  8.37  1.13  1.20  3.88

season totals     733.3  658  344  321  269  619   89 11718  3.30  7.60  1.09  1.26  3.94

 

Percentage of baserunners driven in........

 

04/02 - 07/02      BDI  LOB   RBI%
DeRosa              40  106  0.274
Ward                 5   14  0.263
Lee                 35  111  0.240
Floyd               24   78  0.235
Ramirez             34  111  0.234
Fontenot            12   40  0.231
Pie                 16   62  0.205
Blanco               3   12  0.200
Theriot             21   90  0.189
Pagan                8   40  0.167
Jones               18   96  0.158
Soriano             18   98  0.155
Barrett             19  113  0.144
K Hill               4   25  0.138
Bowen                2   13  0.133
Murton               7   48  0.127
Izturis              8   77  0.094
Cedeno               2   21  0.087

CUBS               284 1238  0.187

 

CUBS drop yet another slot in the standings; down to 17. Oh, when will the madness stop ????

 

Fecal League Standings

Team             W       L       Pct      GB
Cincinnati      31      51     0.378     ---
Washington      33      49     0.402     2.0
Tampa Bay       33      48     0.407     2.5
Texas           34      48     0.415     3.0
Kansas City     35      48     0.422     3.5
Pittsburgh      35      47     0.427     4.0
Houston         36      47     0.434     4.5
San Francisco   35      45     0.438     5.0
white sox       35      44     0.443     5.5
Baltimore       36      45     0.444     5.5
Florida         38      45     0.458     6.5
St. Louis       37      42     0.468     7.5
NY Yankees      38      41     0.481     8.5
Colorado        40      43     0.482     8.5
Toronto         40      42     0.488     9.0
Philadelphia    42      41     0.506    10.5
CUBS            41      40     0.506    10.5

 

 

Go CUBS !!

[98navigator]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher ands CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just siting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

 

With our shortstops and catchers on this roster, that is very unlikely to happen ever.

 

I disagree. DeRo can play SS too and Riot goes through hot streaks where he can be productive offensively.

 

I wont call DeRo a SS untill he plays more than a half game there. Im guessing if Lou really thought he could handle it everyday, the move would have been made.

 

DeRo has been taking ground balls there for over a month. If Lou didn't think he could handle it, he would have taken him (or Fontenot) out of the game.

[RynoRules]

Geez, Fred. I'm sexually aroused.

 

:wink:

 

:D

[Keener98]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher ands CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just siting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

 

With our shortstops and catchers on this roster, that is very unlikely to happen ever.

 

I disagree. DeRo can play SS too and Riot goes through hot streaks where he can be productive offensively.

 

I wont call DeRo a SS untill he plays more than a half game there. Im guessing if Lou really thought he could handle it everyday, the move would have been made.

 

DeRo has been taking ground balls there for over a month. If Lou didn't think he could handle it, he would have taken him (or Fontenot) out of the game.

 

Yea him taking ground balls there means nothing. Zambrano takes pop flies in the Of too, so what? If Lou really trusted him there, he would have played more than a half game over the course of a half a season at that position.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

In Lou's defense, the same mentality that's keeping Pie out of the lineup are also keeping Jock and Iz-sucksatbaseball-is out of the lineup.

 

Not really. The mentality that keeps Izturis and Jones on the bench is they are proven failure who offer nothing to the team now or in the future. While Pie is a kid who may have a future if he works through struggles.

 

Lou is trying to help Pie work through his struggles, only not in games. He's got him working on a "toe tap" move in the cage and in batting practice to keep him from "twisting" too much. Identifying and attempting to solve problems are things that weren't done here with young players the last few years.

 

Well thats good to hear that Lou is working with him, and not just letting him try work through it on his own. When you say "toe tap" are you meaning Sosa style or different?

 

Something similar. It was hard to follow Lou's dance step when he was demonstrating it in the dugout.

 

DeRosa credits a toe tap for improving his hitting last season. Is it something similar to that?

[C.C.]

Brewers down 6-2 bottom 8th! YES!

[Allroy]

Please lose Brewers. Please win Cobs.

[Shilzzz]

let's pick this game up! :)

[98navigator]

I have no problem sitting Pie with Aramis out of the lineup today. Felix is in a terrible slump and, right now, Angel is a better offensive player. However, I think Pie should be in the lineup tomorrow.

 

Pretty hard to get out of your slump, when you havent started in 4 days. Hes a young kid, and is going to have slumps like this, but that doesnt mean he should be relagated to Lous coffee getter.

 

I think Lou has Pie's best interest in mind (as well as that of the team). The Cubs have already committed themselves to keeping Felix on the roster but they have to pick and choose offense over defense some days. When most everyone else in the lineup is clicking, they can absorb the lack of offense at catcher ands CF but the offense has been inconsistent overall and now Aramis is getting a day of...

 

Plus, Lou said that Gerald Perry has been working with Felix so it's not like he's been just siting and stewing, they are trying to help him make adjustments.

 

With our shortstops and catchers on this roster, that is very unlikely to happen ever.

 

I disagree. DeRo can play SS too and Riot goes through hot streaks where he can be productive offensively.

 

I wont call DeRo a SS untill he plays more than a half game there. Im guessing if Lou really thought he could handle it everyday, the move would have been made.

 

DeRo has been taking ground balls there for over a month. If Lou didn't think he could handle it, he would have taken him (or Fontenot) out of the game.

 

Yea him taking ground balls there means nothing. Zambrano takes pop flies in the Of too, so what? If Lou really trusted him there, he would have played more than a half game over the course of a half a season at that position.

 

I don't want to argue because this has nothing to do with the original thought about Pie's struggles... DeRosa has proven to be very versatile and it wouldn't surprise me to see him play SS again but, even if he never played there, it has nothing to do with Pie's lack of offense. Theriot will probably see the majority of time at SS and he's putting up (slightly) better numbers than Pie.

 

Also, it's not like Pagan has been stealing at-bats from Pie. Pagan is producing a .797 OPS in 89 ABs to Pie's .626 OPS in 137 ABs. In a limited role, Angel can be productive and he deserves to play (Plus, he had 2 hits last night). The Cubs are sacrificing defense for offense.

 

Pie will get plenty of opportunities to play.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

There's ground to be gained tonight.

 

Get the win, bitches.

[BigbadB]

Hey Derrek, watch out for that Fick character. He likes to purposely injure people on his way by 1b.

[inari]

Gotta take advantage of the Brewers loss, especially when it's to the Pirates. DON'T SUCK CUBS!

[Marco4]

Right, then. I'll get my drink and retire to bed with this one in the background.

[Sosa21MVP]

OKAY DON'T SUCK YOU TURDS! WIN! :lol:

[98navigator]

YES! Let's pickup this game tonight.