Sign Zambrano ASAP

[Schwarber Fan]

Why not? His confidence is at an all time high and he is pitching some of his best games ever. Although a lot of you are ready to trade him away, I think Z is a big part of the future of this team.

[Drew Doughty]

i love it when four starts influence personnel decisions. that's how you end up with guys like jeff weaver!

 

i like zambrano, but lets not jump the gun yet.

[Rusch33]

i love it when four starts influence personnel decisions. that's how you end up with guys like jeff weaver!

 

i like zambrano, but lets not jump the gun yet.

 

 

What in the past makes you think he's going to get any worse or back to bad?

[anabiono]

no...you want zambrano for 5 to 6 years for 15 million?

 

you are crazy

[Drew Doughty]

i love it when four starts influence personnel decisions. that's how you end up with guys like jeff weaver!

 

i like zambrano, but lets not jump the gun yet.

 

 

What in the past makes you think he's going to get any worse or back to bad?

 

his terrible control. his huge workload. his first 2 months of this season.

[Sammy Sofa]

This makes me want to trade him even more. Every stellar start sends his trade value soaring.

[Guest]

i love it when four starts influence personnel decisions. that's how you end up with guys like jeff weaver!

 

i like zambrano, but lets not jump the gun yet.

 

 

What in the past makes you think he's going to get any worse or back to bad?

 

his terrible control. his huge workload. his first 2 months of this season.

 

His back.

[Rusch33]

This makes me want to trade him even more. Every stellar start sends his trade value soaring.

 

Trade him so Hill, Lilly and Marquis are your 1-2-3 for the next couple of years.

 

Good choice.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

This makes me want to trade him even more. Every stellar start sends his trade value soaring.

 

Bingo.

 

Call the Braves. Offer Zambrano for Salty and Harrison and hope they'll do Salty + Jo Jo Reyes.

 

Try to throw in Jones as well. Offer them a reliever, and maybe we can get Brandon Jones as well.

[Sammy Sofa]

This makes me want to trade him even more. Every stellar start sends his trade value soaring.

 

Trade him so Hill, Lilly and Marquis are your 1-2-3 for the next couple of years.

 

Good choice.

 

It's not like the Cubs are magically forbidden from signing or trading for new pitchers or promoting from within if Zambrano is dealt.

 

I'd rather use the spazzy guy with back issues tied into his weight who only plays once every five days to net us at least one every day slamdunk impact player, maybe more.

[inari]

Gotta hope that the Cubs are able to sign anyone with a moderately big contract over the offseason.

[Drew Doughty]

This makes me want to trade him even more. Every stellar start sends his trade value soaring.

 

Trade him so Hill, Lilly and Marquis are your 1-2-3 for the next couple of years.

 

Good choice.

 

they clearly will get nothing back in a trade and will never sign a pitcher again.

[C.C.]

This makes me want to trade him even more. Every stellar start sends his trade value soaring.

 

Trade him so Hill, Lilly and Marquis are your 1-2-3 for the next couple of years.

 

Good choice.

 

It's not like the Cubs are magically forbidden from signing or trading for new pitchers or promoting from within if Zambrano is dealt.

 

I'd rather use the spazzy guy with back issues tied into his weight who only plays once every five days to net us at least one every day slamdunk impact player, maybe more.

 

Gotta remember Prior is due back next year! Yay!

[Roast]

Mojopin makes a good point, Who is available as far as FA pitchers go, next year?

 

 

That being said, I still want my Z!

[rawaction]

I don't understand why people are pointing at 2 months of this season and a back condition and workload that haven't shown any signs of affecting him in the least as reasons not to sign Carlos to a long contract. What about the fact that he has been one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball for the last 4-5 years? He's a great pitcher. One of the few legit #1 starters out there. And people are wanting to trade him for prospects?

 

I'm not 100% that the Cubs should pay Zambrano $100M for 6 years, but that's much better than trading him for prospects, who may or may not pan out and signing a lesser FA pitcher. If the Cubs are gonna trade Zambrano, they had better get a player under control for at least 3 years and a legit ML ready prospect, unless it's a player like Tex or ARod.

[hawkeyecub]

I don't understand why people are pointing at 2 months of this season and a back condition and workload that haven't shown any signs of affecting him in the least as reasons not to sign Carlos to a long contract. What about the fact that he has been one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball for the last 4-5 years? He's a great pitcher. One of the few legit #1 starters out there. And people are wanting to trade him for prospects?

 

I'm not 100% that the Cubs should pay Zambrano $100M for 6 years, but that's much better than trading him for prospects, who may or may not pan out and signing a lesser FA pitcher. If the Cubs are gonna trade Zambrano, they had better get a player under control for at least 3 years and a legit ML ready prospect, unless it's a player like Tex or ARod.

 

My thoughts exactly.

[Sammy Sofa]

I don't understand why people are pointing at 2 months of this season and a back condition and workload that haven't shown any signs of affecting him in the least as reasons not to sign Carlos to a long contract.

 

The back issue is tied into his weight. The man himself has said that he has trouble keeping the weight off as the season goes on. As a person gets older, it becoems harder and harder to keep weight down. Is that really the type of situation we should ignore when talking about signing a pitcher for 5+ years?

 

What about the fact that he has been one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball for the last 4-5 years? He's a great pitcher. One of the few legit #1 starters out there.

 

Apparently only when he decides he's that good. And he can net you a huge return. It would be nice if for once the Cubs sold high. Using a guy that plays once every five days to potentially fill multiple every day holes seems like a great idea, especially since developing pitching seems to be the only thing we can do sorta right in our system.

 

And people are wanting to trade him for prospects?

 

Most people are talking about trading him for proven impact players, or prospects to spin off for those players.

 

I'm not 100% that the Cubs should pay Zambrano $100M for 6 years, but that's much better than trading him for prospects, who may or may not pan out and signing a lesser FA pitcher. If the Cubs are gonna trade Zambrano, they had better get a player under control for at least 3 years and a legit ML ready prospect, unless it's a player like Tex or ARod.

 

Which is what most people are suggesting when they talk about trading him.

[rawaction]

I don't understand why people are pointing at 2 months of this season and a back condition and workload that haven't shown any signs of affecting him in the least as reasons not to sign Carlos to a long contract.

 

The back issue is tied into his weight. The man himself has said that he has trouble keeping the weight off as the season goes on. As a person gets older, it becoems harder and harder to keep weight down. Is that really the type of situation we should ignore when talking about signing a pitcher for 5+ years?

 

What about the fact that he has been one of the top 5 pitchers in baseball for the last 4-5 years? He's a great pitcher. One of the few legit #1 starters out there.

 

Apparently only when he decides he's that good. And he can net you a huge return. It would be nice if for once the Cubs sold high. Using a guy that plays once every five days to potentially fill multiple every day holes seems like a great idea, especially since developing pitching seems to be the only thing we can do sorta right in our system.

 

And people are wanting to trade him for prospects?

 

Most people are talking about trading him for proven impact players, or prospects to spin off for those players.

 

I'm not 100% that the Cubs should pay Zambrano $100M for 6 years, but that's much better than trading him for prospects, who may or may not pan out and signing a lesser FA pitcher. If the Cubs are gonna trade Zambrano, they had better get a player under control for at least 3 years and a legit ML ready prospect, unless it's a player like Tex or ARod.

 

Which is what most people are suggesting when they talk about trading him.

 

He just turned 26. In 5 years, he will just be ending his prime. You make it sound like he's aging right now. The Cubs to me can't justify signing Soriano to that insane contract and re-signing Ramirez and then trade Zambrano for prospects. Those moves make the Cubs a win-now team. Their window is the length of Lee's contract. They can't replace Zambrano and think they will still be able to compete. There's not a single pitcher that will be available that can replace Z's production....especially now that Marquis and Lilly are pitching like they have their entire lives and Rich Hill is no longer putting up Sandy Koufax numbers.

 

The prospect thing was about Vance's trade suggestions. He (and many others) have often brought up trading Zambrano for prospects.

[Vinestal]

They need to trade him while his value is high. Should be able to aquire some incredible talent for him by the time the trade deadline gets here, I hope they do it. Edited June 23, 2007 by Vinestal

[TB_11]

The Cubs aren't an organization that's designed to allow prospects to develop. Hendry should make moves to win now. Trading Zambrano for prospects after signing Lee, Ramirez, Soriano, Lilly, etc to long-term contracts would show a lack of thought and direction that would be notable even for this organization.

 

Before this season it mades sense to sign Zambrano to something along the lines of 5 years, $80-90M, and that was based off his performance over 145 starts over 4.5 seasons. That thinking shouldn't be changed after watching him struggle through 12 starts, or perform well after another 4.

[UK1679666180]

They have a month or so to determine where they're at, that includes playoff possibilities and in-season contract talks. I can't even begin to speculate where they're at as far as contract talks (don't even know if that's going on) but we'll have a much better idea where they'll be for the August/Sept. stretch.

 

If they're in a similar position a month from now as far as their record and nothing has progressed in contract talks, I think trading him is the best option.

[PackLandVA]

I know this would never happen, but.....

 

...what about trading him for some solid talent and then (wink, wink)re-signing him to the big FA contract. The Cubs still get Z as their ace and improve the team dramatically with some young talent and/or prospects. There's no guarantee a team that picks him up in a trade is gonna be able to sign him.

[anabiono]

guys...i just had a great idea...trade zambrano for jeff weaver...straight up!

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I know this would never happen, but.....

 

...what about trading him for some solid talent and then (wink, wink)re-signing him to the big FA contract. The Cubs still get Z as their ace and improve the team dramatically with some young talent and/or prospects. There's no guarantee a team that picks him up in a trade is gonna be able to sign him.

 

That's why I'm advocating a trade to Atlanta. I don't think the Braves will re-sign him which at least gives the Cubs a shot at him.

 

If we send him to the Mets or Angels, I'm fairly certain they'd ink him to a long-term deal.

[tkenm356]

I know this would never happen, but.....

 

...what about trading him for some solid talent and then (wink, wink)re-signing him to the big FA contract. The Cubs still get Z as their ace and improve the team dramatically with some young talent and/or prospects. There's no guarantee a team that picks him up in a trade is gonna be able to sign him.

 

That's why I'm advocating a trade to Atlanta. I don't think the Braves will re-sign him which at least gives the Cubs a shot at him.

 

If we send him to the Mets or Angels, I'm fairly certain they'd ink him to a long-term deal.

 

Didn't Ponson do that with the O's? If the Cubs are out of it at the break, I'd have a nice sit down with Z and let him know they're going to trade him, but want to sign him back in the offseason. I wonder if Z would be game for that?