Suspensions annouced; DLee gets 5 games/Gerald Perry 3 games

[Keener98]

Peavy should have gotten more than a slap on the wrist.

 

Surprised Young got the same as Lee. I don't think MLB was faulting him for throwing a punch in self-defense. Sounds like they think he was throwing at Lee.

 

He didnt get the same thing as Lee. Young misses 1 game, where DLee misses 5.

[BigbadB]

Peavy should have gotten more than a slap on the wrist.

 

Surprised Young got the same as Lee. I don't think MLB was faulting him for throwing a punch in self-defense. Sounds like they think he was throwing at Lee.

 

He didnt get the same thing as Lee. Young misses 1 game, where DLee misses 5.

 

This is not accurate, either. DLee misses 5 games and Young just gets his regular start moved back one game, so essentially he gets nothing.

[Keener98]

Peavy should have gotten more than a slap on the wrist.

 

Surprised Young got the same as Lee. I don't think MLB was faulting him for throwing a punch in self-defense. Sounds like they think he was throwing at Lee.

 

He didnt get the same thing as Lee. Young misses 1 game, where DLee misses 5.

 

This is not accurate, either. DLee misses 5 games and Young just gets his regular start moved back one game, so essentially he gets nothing.

 

Well true.

[UBlink]

Peavy should have gotten more than a slap on the wrist.

 

Surprised Young got the same as Lee. I don't think MLB was faulting him for throwing a punch in self-defense. Sounds like they think he was throwing at Lee.

 

He didnt get the same thing as Lee. Young misses 1 game, where DLee misses 5.

 

This is not accurate, either. DLee misses 5 games and Young just gets his regular start moved back one game, so essentially he gets nothing.

 

Well true.

 

Don't they both lose 5 days' pay?

[BigbadB]

Here is how I would have handed down the suspensions:

 

Soriano- fined

Perry- fined

 

Lee- 5 games

Young- 25 games or 5 starts, whichever comes first

Peavy- 25 games or 5 starts, whichever comes first

 

Umpires- 1 month suspension with no pay for knowing a problem existed and turning a blind eye to it, which allowed all of this to happen in the first place.

[Soul]

Peavy should have gotten more than a slap on the wrist.

 

Surprised Young got the same as Lee. I don't think MLB was faulting him for throwing a punch in self-defense. Sounds like they think he was throwing at Lee.

 

He didnt get the same thing as Lee. Young misses 1 game, where DLee misses 5.

 

This is not accurate, either. DLee misses 5 games and Young just gets his regular start moved back one game, so essentially he gets nothing.

 

Well true.

 

I figured it would go down like this. We are really getting screwed this year. It's like other teams are able to attempt to injure our players, and we get punished for it. Total backwards justice in my mind.

 

Heck, if I'm Ned Yost I'm telling my starting pitchers to throw at Soriano's head, or Ramirez if he's back. After all, you can argue it was just an accident, and if the Cubs try to defend themselves, they'll get the bigger suspensions. May as well just do it then, the cost/benefit ratio is in your favor. It'll help you win, too.

[Keener98]

Hell I still cant believe the didnt give warnings b4 yesterdays game.

[Sarcastic]

Here is how I would have handed down the suspensions:

 

Soriano- fined

Perry- fined

 

Lee- 5 games

Young- 25 games or 5 starts, whichever comes first

Peavy- 25 games or 5 starts, whichever comes first

 

Umpires- 1 month suspension with no pay for knowing a problem existed and turning a blind eye to it, which allowed all of this to happen in the first place.

 

I agree on the other penalties, but 5 starts for a pitcher is a much more severe penalty than 5 games. 5 starts is about 1/6 of a starter's season. I don't think that what Young did was so different from Lee's infraction to justify that sentence. I would like to see him miss at least 10 games though to be sure he is out for at least one start.

[BigbadB]

I agree on the other penalties, but 5 starts for a pitcher is a much more severe penalty than 5 games. 5 starts is about 1/6 of a starter's season. I don't think that what Young did was so different from Lee's infraction to justify that sentence. I would like to see him miss at least 10 games though to be sure he is out for at least one start.

 

I see your point. 10 games would be fair. Maybe it just needs to be changed and made clear that the pitcher's start must be skipped entirely.

[jersey cubs fan]

Here is how I would have handed down the suspensions:

 

Soriano- fined

Perry- fined

 

Lee- 5 games

Young- 25 games or 5 starts, whichever comes first

Peavy- 25 games or 5 starts, whichever comes first

 

Umpires- 1 month suspension with no pay for knowing a problem existed and turning a blind eye to it, which allowed all of this to happen in the first place.

 

This is absurd.

 

1 game for a starting position player does not equal one start for a pitcher. First off, 5 games is the equivalent of missing 5 days worth of pay for both guys. Second, if anything, a pitcher should get an extra couple days, maybe 6 or 7, if the equivalent player got 5. But the fact is Lee threw the first punch and that pitch was most likely not intentional. Had Lee gone to first base there is no suspension for anybody.

 

5 games out of an every day player's season is equivalent to 3% of his season, which is equivalent to less than 1 start for a pitcher.

[jersey cubs fan]

I agree on the other penalties, but 5 starts for a pitcher is a much more severe penalty than 5 games. 5 starts is about 1/6 of a starter's season. I don't think that what Young did was so different from Lee's infraction to justify that sentence. I would like to see him miss at least 10 games though to be sure he is out for at least one start.

 

I see your point. 10 games would be fair. Maybe it just needs to be changed and made clear that the pitcher's start must be skipped entirely.

 

Lee started the fight. Had Lee gone to first there is no fight and no suspension for anybody. I don't see why he should be subject to more time served simply because Lee chose to throw a punch. 5 games is 5 games, it's going to throw off their rotation regardless. He's going to miss out on the money.

[BigbadB]

But the fact is Lee threw the first punch and that pitch was most likely not intentional.

 

Most likely not intentional? Are you kidding me?

 

Soriano does a dance up the first base line on Friday. Peavy announces to the world in the paper that he'd drill someone else on the team if it happened to him. Young just happens to go up and in with the Cubs best player. Peavy must know it's going to happen, because he's practically in a sprinters stance in the dugout. Young announces rather rudely to Lee that he should take his base, rather than show a display of remorse and concern for Lee's welfare.

[Soriano12]

How about suspending and fining the home plate ump for not doing his job.

 

He should have tried to cool the situation ASAP, instead stood there with his thumb up his ass talking to the catcher.

[jersey cubs fan]

But the fact is Lee threw the first punch and that pitch was most likely not intentional.

 

Most likely not intentional? Are you kidding me?

 

Soriano does a dance up the first base line on Friday. Peavy announces to the world in the paper that he'd drill someone else on the team if it happened to him. Young just happens to go up and in with the Cubs best player. Peavy must know it's going to happen, because he's practically in a sprinters stance in the dugout. Young announces rather rudely to Lee that he should take his base, rather than show a display of remorse and concern for Lee's welfare.

 

On the 5th pitch in a 1-2 count, brilliant theory.

[Bergy92]

Why is Giles being fined? All that I saw him do was pull Young away from Lee, preventing any further punches from being thrown. If anything, he should be commended.

 

According to ESPN, it is not Marcus Giles, but Brian Giles that is being fined. It was Marcus in the infield, right? Was Brian even playing?

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2908417

[BigbadB]

But the fact is Lee threw the first punch and that pitch was most likely not intentional.

 

Most likely not intentional? Are you kidding me?

 

Soriano does a dance up the first base line on Friday. Peavy announces to the world in the paper that he'd drill someone else on the team if it happened to him. Young just happens to go up and in with the Cubs best player. Peavy must know it's going to happen, because he's practically in a sprinters stance in the dugout. Young announces rather rudely to Lee that he should take his base, rather than show a display of remorse and concern for Lee's welfare.

 

On the 5th pitch in a 1-2 count, brilliant theory.

 

Why not on a 1-2 pitch? I find it reasonable to think he'd do in the middle of a count to make it not appear so obvious.

[BigbadB]

Why is Giles being fined? All that I saw him do was pull Young away from Lee, preventing any further punches from being thrown. If anything, he should be commended.

 

According to ESPN, it is not Marcus Giles, but Brian Giles that is being fined. It was Marcus in the infield, right? Was Brian even playing?

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2908417

 

Definitely Marcus. Brian is and has been on the DL with a bruised knee.

[Bergy92]

Why is Giles being fined? All that I saw him do was pull Young away from Lee, preventing any further punches from being thrown. If anything, he should be commended.

 

According to ESPN, it is not Marcus Giles, but Brian Giles that is being fined. It was Marcus in the infield, right? Was Brian even playing?

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2908417

 

Definitely Marcus. Brian is and has been on the DL with a bruised knee.

 

that is what I thought, so then once again, ESPN is wrong? It is like the world is coming to an end. DLee blows up and ESPN is wrong. Now what? Cubs win WS

[Ding Dong Johnson]

But the fact is Lee threw the first punch and that pitch was most likely not intentional.

 

Most likely not intentional? Are you kidding me?

 

Soriano does a dance up the first base line on Friday. Peavy announces to the world in the paper that he'd drill someone else on the team if it happened to him. Young just happens to go up and in with the Cubs best player. Peavy must know it's going to happen, because he's practically in a sprinters stance in the dugout. Young announces rather rudely to Lee that he should take his base, rather than show a display of remorse and concern for Lee's welfare.

 

On the 5th pitch in a 1-2 count, brilliant theory.

 

Why not on a 1-2 pitch? I find it reasonable to think he'd do in the middle of a count to make it not appear so obvious.

 

right -- it doesn't have to happen on the first pitch of any particular AB, it just has to happen

[YearofDaCubs]

I'm fine with Lee getting 5 games. You figure, if he appeals he could get less than that. As far as Young, considering he is a SP it is light, but if he doesn't get paid for those 5 games, well, not much to complain about then.

[Marco4]

I was thinking more than five, so I'm happy with that.

 

Can it go up on appeal?

[Friendly Confines]

I heard on 670 earlier someone called in and suggested that the whole thing was set up. Young would throw at Lee, and Bowen would distract the home plate umpire so that Young and Lee could brawl and Peavy would be ready to jump in on the action.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Considering Young's actions afterward and all the attempted lip reading that's been done, I don't see any way you can claim it wasn't intentional.

[NewUserName]

When is Renteria getting Suspended. Oh its better to cheap shot someone trying to steal than it is to stand toe to toe with someone and hit them. MLB is so full of crap its pathetic.

[Keener98]

I heard on 670 earlier someone called in and suggested that the whole thing was set up. Young would throw at Lee, and Bowen would distract the home plate umpire so that Young and Lee could brawl and Peavy would be ready to jump in on the action.

 

lmao absurd