Josh Vitters

[SABR Gamer]

Hey, so I would definitely like some more info on him, what do u guys think his chances are of really panning out to be the next big power hitter that hes been talked up to be?

 

Anyone here actually seen him play before?

 

Where do the Cubs plan on having him play since 3rd base is, along with left field and first base, basically locked up for years to come?

 

What year is he expected to hit the Majors?

 

Not directly related to him, but who have been previously 3rd overall picks in the last 10 years?

 

I know Corey went third, and Prior went 2, and wood went 4, i would be interested to see past 3rd picks to see how well they usually do.

 

Thanks.

[Schwarber Fan]

Some discussion about all the Cubs draft picks is taking place here: viewtopic.php?t=41293

[tkenm356]

Don't know much about himn, but read the reporto n ESPN that said he's yet to hit 18 years old, and he was the best hitting prospecto ut of high school. I would assume he'd be maybe 23 or 24 by the time he's ready for the big leagues, which if I'm not mistaken is about the time Aramis' contract is finished.

 

When I first saw we drafted a 3B I was kind of furious (I wanted Weiters, and didn't understand the concept of drafting a 3B with Aramis) I looked at his age and it kind of makes sense.

[SABR Gamer]

thanks, just thinking about it, the only places he really could play are RF or SS, and from what i think i heard he would not be a good choice for SS, so that leaves RF, but then i guess we wasted last years pick when we took Colvin. 2B doesnt work cuz we have E-Pat. does he have the speed or arm to play RF?

[jersey cubs fan]

I'm far from an expert on the guy.

 

But don't expect to see him hit the majors for 4-5 years, at least.

 

We should be happy if he does this:

 

2007 - AZL rookie

2008 - Peoria low A

2009 - Daytona high A

2010 - Tenn AA

2011 - Iowa AAA, possible September callup.

 

This would be steady, but not overly conservative, given that he'd make the majors at 22.

 

There's no reason to worry about position, he should go to 3rd and hopefully stick there, since his bat is worth much less as a corner OF.

[jersey cubs fan]

thanks, just thinking about it, the only places he really could play are RF or SS, and from what i think i heard he would not be a good choice for SS, so that leaves RF, but then i guess we wasted last years pick when we took Colvin. 2B doesnt work cuz we have E-Pat. does he have the speed or arm to play RF?

 

He's many years from making the big team, at which point both Ramirez and Lee may be gone. There's no reason to worry about Colvin, Patterson or others as far as blocking. Let them all play and things will work themselves out several years down the line.

[Soriano12]

My projection

 

2007 Rookie

2008 - Peoria

2009 - Daytona

2009 -Peoria

2010 - Peoria

2011 - Released by Cubs

[Guest]

thanks, just thinking about it, the only places he really could play are RF or SS, and from what i think i heard he would not be a good choice for SS, so that leaves RF, but then i guess we wasted last years pick when we took Colvin. 2B doesnt work cuz we have E-Pat. does he have the speed or arm to play RF?

 

Let's see if he can't stick at 3B first, no reason to move a guy from a position when he's 4-5 years away from the big leagues. If he can't stick at 3B, I expect he'll move to RF.

 

I'm moving this thread to the JAD Forum.

[SABR Gamer]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

[jersey cubs fan]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

[Guest]

I guess I'll keep this thread here for now since most of you folks haven't seen the JAD Forum and some of the topics revolve around current Cub players. If you want much more detailed information about Vitters and other Cub picks, check out the June Amateur Draft Forum.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Not directly related to him, but who have been previously 3rd overall picks in the last 10 years?

 

06 - Evan Longoria (SS, Tampa)

05 - Jeff Clement (C, Mariners)

04 - Philip Humber (P, Mets)

03 - Kyle Sleeth (P, Tigers)

02 - Chris Gruler (P, Reds)

01 - Dewon Brazelton (P, Tampa)

00 - Luis Montanez (SS, COBS)

99 - Eric Munson (C-1B, Tigers)

98 - Corey Patterson (OF, COBS)

97 - Troy Glaus (3B, Anaheim)

[SABR Gamer]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

 

it depends on how hes playing at the time, A-Rod will be i think 33 this offseason and people want to give him a 7-8 year deal, so A-Ram for 3-4 isnt that bad

[Ding Dong Johnson]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

 

it depends on how hes playing at the time, A-Rod will be i think 33 this offseason and people want to give him a 7-8 year deal, so A-Ram for 3-4 isnt that bad

 

ARod is considerably better than Aramis

[SABR Gamer]

Not directly related to him, but who have been previously 3rd overall picks in the last 10 years?

 

06 - Evan Longoria (SS, Tampa)

05 - Jeff Clement (C, Mariners)

04 - Philip Humber (P, Mets)

03 - Kyle Sleeth (P, Tigers)

02 - Chris Gruler (P, Reds)

01 - Dewon Brazelton (P, Tampa)

00 - Luis Montanez (SS, COBS)

99 - Eric Munson (C-1B, Tigers)

98 - Corey Patterson (OF, COBS)

97 - Troy Glaus (3B, Anaheim)

 

ok so here

 

07 - Josh Vitters (3B, Cubs) - cross your fingers and hope hes even 80% of what hes said to be.

06 - Evan Longoria (SS, Tampa) - Too early to tell unless something bad i dont know about happened

05 - Jeff Clement (C, Mariners) - too early to tell?

04 - Philip Humber (P, Mets) - looks like a bust

03 - Kyle Sleeth (P, Tigers) - bust

02 - Chris Gruler (P, Reds) - bust

01 - Dewon Brazelton (P, Tampa) - bust

00 - Luis Montanez (SS, Cubs) - bust

99 - Eric Munson (C-1B, Tigers) - bust

98 - Corey Patterson (OF, Cubs) - still waiting to see how the next year or two go

97 - Troy Glaus (3B, Anaheim) - only guy on the list who turned out near as good as the picks hype

 

 

great this was as far from encouraging as it gets

[Guest]

I could see Aramis aging poorly (I'm talking about his health).

[SABR Gamer]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

 

it depends on how hes playing at the time, A-Rod will be i think 33 this offseason and people want to give him a 7-8 year deal, so A-Ram for 3-4 isnt that bad

 

ARod is considerably better than Aramis

 

 

ya thats y hes getting around twice the deal A ram would, but i think thats an unfair comment, ARod is considerably better than everyone in baseball, and is one the the 5 best hitters of all time, if not the best.

[SABR Gamer]

I could see Aramis aging poorly (I'm talking about his health).

 

ya thats where i get worried with A-Ram

[Ding Dong Johnson]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

 

it depends on how hes playing at the time, A-Rod will be i think 33 this offseason and people want to give him a 7-8 year deal, so A-Ram for 3-4 isnt that bad

 

ARod is considerably better than Aramis

 

 

ya thats y hes getting around twice the deal A ram would, but i think thats an unfair comment, ARod is considerably better than everyone in baseball, and is one the the 5 best hitters of all time, if not the best.

 

um, unless I'm reading things wrong, you were the one who decided to bring ARod into the discussion

[CoolHandLuke]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

 

it depends on how hes playing at the time, A-Rod will be i think 33 this offseason and people want to give him a 7-8 year deal, so A-Ram for 3-4 isnt that bad

 

ARod is considerably better than Aramis

 

 

ya thats y hes getting around twice the deal A ram would, but i think thats an unfair comment, ARod is considerably better than everyone in baseball, and is one the the 5 best hitters of all time, if not the best.

 

Then why did you use him as a comparison?

[imb]

this thread is awesome

[SABR Gamer]

i guess, but Aramis will only be 33 and im pretty sure that unless he declines at an extreme rate the cubs would resign him to a 3-4 year deal. By then tho 1st base would be open and Vitters could play there or Ram could move there for his hammys and the younger more athletic Vitters could play third

 

I would predict resigning Ramirez to a 3-4 year deal at 33 would be unwise.

 

it depends on how hes playing at the time, A-Rod will be i think 33 this offseason and people want to give him a 7-8 year deal, so A-Ram for 3-4 isnt that bad

 

ARod is considerably better than Aramis

 

 

ya thats y hes getting around twice the deal A ram would, but i think thats an unfair comment, ARod is considerably better than everyone in baseball, and is one the the 5 best hitters of all time, if not the best.

 

um, unless I'm reading things wrong, you were the one who decided to bring ARod into the discussion

 

ya i did, im saying that i dont think A-Rod is twice as good, yet twice the contract. ok but a better arguement would be that aramis will probably be better than a lot of 33 year olds who have gotten 3-4 year deals. I understand where one would be worried to giv someone with his history of health that deal tho

[SABR Gamer]

my opinion tho is that the deciding factors with ramirez will be:

 

1. his health

 

2. how well Vitters is developing/how well Vitters does with learning a new position

[jyoung55]

The draft is a crapshoot, absolutely nothing is for certain except there will be big surprises and big disappointments. Don't worry about it, especially how this year's draft will effect your favorite player, because it will only give you a headache.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Not directly related to him, but who have been previously 3rd overall picks in the last 10 years?

 

06 - Evan Longoria (SS, Tampa)

05 - Jeff Clement (C, Mariners)

04 - Philip Humber (P, Mets)

03 - Kyle Sleeth (P, Tigers)

02 - Chris Gruler (P, Reds)

01 - Dewon Brazelton (P, Tampa)

00 - Luis Montanez (SS, COBS)

99 - Eric Munson (C-1B, Tigers)

98 - Corey Patterson (OF, COBS)

97 - Troy Glaus (3B, Anaheim)

 

ok so here

 

07 - Josh Vitters (3B, Cubs) - cross your fingers and hope hes even 80% of what hes said to be.

06 - Evan Longoria (SS, Tampa) - Too early to tell unless something bad i dont know about happened

05 - Jeff Clement (C, Mariners) - too early to tell?

04 - Philip Humber (P, Mets) - looks like a bust

03 - Kyle Sleeth (P, Tigers) - bust

02 - Chris Gruler (P, Reds) - bust

01 - Dewon Brazelton (P, Tampa) - bust

00 - Luis Montanez (SS, Cubs) - bust

99 - Eric Munson (C-1B, Tigers) - bust

98 - Corey Patterson (OF, Cubs) - still waiting to see how the next year or two go

97 - Troy Glaus (3B, Anaheim) - only guy on the list who turned out near as good as the picks hype

 

 

great this was as far from encouraging as it gets

 

Well, last year's pick of Longoria has the potential to be something very special.

 

He's already advanced to AA where he has a 295/405/560 line thus far. There's few hitters in the minors that I like as much as Longoria.