2007 Cubs Pick Discussion

[Derwood]

Round 1, Pick 3 : 3B Josh Vitters, Cypress HS (Anaheim, CA) - $3.2 million

Comp A, Pick 48: C Josh Donaldson, Auburn - $652,500

Round 3, Pick 97: 2B Tony Thomas, Florida State - $360,000

Round 4, Pick 127: SS Darwin Barney, Oregon State - $222,750

Round 5, Pick 157: OF Brandon Guyer, Virginia - $148,000

Round 6, Pick 187: LHP Casey Lambert, Virginia - $53,000

Round 7, Pick 217: OF Ty Wright, Oklahoma State - $42,000

Round 8, Pick 247: 3B Marquez Smith, Clemson - $30,000

Round 9, Pick 277: CF Clark Hardman, Cal State Fullerton - $114,500

Round 10, Pick 307: CF Leon Johnson, Brigham Young - $109,500

Round 11, Pick 337: LHP Chris Siegfried, Portland

Round 12, Pick 367: RHP Ryan Acosta, Central Catholic HS (Clearwater, FL) - $250,000

Round 13, Pick 397: CF Johnathan Wyatt, Georgia

Round 14, Pick 427: LHP James Russell, Texas - $350,000

Round 15, Pick 457: 1B Marc Sawyer, Yale

Round 16, Pick 487: LHP Zachary Ashwood, Kansas

Round 17, Pick 517: LHP Arik Hempy, South Carolina

Round 18, Pick 457: 2B Jeff Rea, Mississippi State

Round 19, Pick 577: C Kyle Day, Michigan State (SOPH)

Round 20, Pick 607: SS Jose Made, Dominican College (NY) (SOPH)

Round 21, Pick 637: LHP Dustin Sasser, East Carolina

Round 22, Pick 667: RHP Craig Muschko, La Salle

Round 23, Pick 697: RHP Stephen Vento, Palm Beach CC (FL)

Round 24, Pick 727: RHP Scott Meyer, Lamar

Round 25, Pick 757: 3B/C Victor Sanchez, Gahr HS (Norwalk, CA)

Round 26, Pick 787: LHP Michael Bunton, College of Charleston

Round 27, Pick 817: RHP Clayton Suss, Cooper City HS (Cooper City, FL)

Round 28, Pick 847: 2B Bill Moss, Memphis

Round 29, Pick 877: RHP Andrew Cashner, Angelina College (TX)

Round 30, Pick 907: RF Luke Sommer, San Francisco

Round 31, Pick 937: OF Brian Leclerc, Florida

Round 32, Pick 966: C Luis Bautista, Florida International

Round 33, Pick 995: C Preston Clark, Texas

Round 34, Pick 1024: RHP Enrique Garcia, Miami

Round 35, Pick 1053: RHP JC Casey, Kickapoo HS (Springfield, MO)

Round 36, Pick 1082: 2B Billy Mottran, Dowling (NY)

Round 37, Pick 1110: 3B Mike McGee, Port St. Lucie HS (Port St. Lucie, FL)

Round 38, Pick 1138: RHP Yuri Higgins, South Florida

Round 39, Pick 1166: C Roberto Sabates, no school (Miami)

Round 40, Pick 1194: RHP Corey Bachman, Virginia Military Institute

Round 41, Pick 1220: OF Jordan Herr, Pittsburgh

Round 42, Pick 1246: IF Cold Sedbrook, Arizona

Round 43, Pick 1271: RHP Garrett Clyde, San Jacinto North

Round 44, Pick 1298: 1B Bryan Jost, Minnesota

Round 45, Pick 1324: OF Ryan Lewis, Yakima Valley CC (WA)

Round 46, Pick 1348: RHP Tyler Clark, Springfield Catholic HS (Springfield, MO)

Round 47, Pick 1371: RHP Josh Walter, Texas State

Round 48, Pick 1393: OF Carlos Rivera, East Aurora HS (Aurora, IL)

Round 49, Pick 1414: RHP Jordan Rogers, San Jacinto CC (TX)

Round 50, Pick 1435: C Blake Murphy, Western Carolina

Edited June 7, 2007 by Derwood

[E.J.]

We should just make this thread "Cubs' Draft Picks" so we can talk about all the Cubs' picks today.

[Soriano12]

My money is that he will flame out somewhere between A and AA.

[Chocolate Milk]

My money is that he will flame out somewhere between A and AA.

 

I don't think the Red Sox have picked yet, guy.

[Soriano12]

My money is that he will flame out somewhere between A and AA.

 

I don't think the Red Sox have picked yet, guy.

 

I'm sure they will pounce on Wieters, if he falls to them.

[Derwood]

We should just make this thread "Cubs' Draft Picks" so we can talk about all the Cubs' picks today.

 

i'm dong this per TT's request

[Mephistopheles]

this is good, one thread for each pick. not the pick i wanted, but with moustakas gone id prefer him over all pitchers.

 

 

edit wait this was just one pick earlier...one thread for each pick is easier

Edited June 7, 2007 by Mephistopheles

[Chocolate Milk]

Where can I see some Vitters vids?

[weis21]

Where can I see some Vitters vids?

 

i didn't have much luck when i searched, but theres a few clips on mlb.com i believe.

[Derwood]

this is good, one thread for each pick. not the pick i wanted, but with moustakas gone id prefer him over all pitchers.

 

 

edit wait this was just one pick earlier...one thread for each pick is easier

 

nah, not much talking here....most of the discussion is in the main thread. Maybe we'll split them out to separate threads post-draft

[jersey cubs fan]

So, for all those who are convinced Vitters will bust, what would he have to do by the end of 2008 to change your mind?

 

Harvey put up this line one year after being drafted: .264/.327/.481 in short season.

By the time he reached low A, 2 years after being drafted he crapped out with a 257/.302/.484 with 24BB and 137K.

 

Do you think Vitters can be in Peoria by next season?

 

If he is in Peoria and puts up something like .280/.350/480, with 60BB and 100K, do you start to have hope? Is that even possible?

[RynoRules]

Can someone help me understand why people are so sure that Vitters will be a bust? And why is Wieters too expensive for us, yet the mock draft I read has the Brew Crew taking him. Since when can't we afford something that the Brewers can?

[jersey cubs fan]

Can someone help me understand why people are so sure that Vitters will be a bust? And why is Wieters too expensive for us, yet the mock draft I read has the Brew Crew taking him. Since when can't we afford something that the Brewers can?

 

I don't know the full story on Vitters and the biggest detractors. I think part of it is the inherent risk of any high school position player, and the fact that the Cubs are so bad at developing them. I think there are significant questions as to his upside, with many suggesting that if everythign works out, he'll be a mediocre 3B.

 

I don't have a strong opinion either way, but I would have preferred the best college hitter myself.

[hawkeyecub]

I really do not understand the complaining about Vitters. We don't know that the Cubs would have passed on Wieters if the ownership/signability angle wasn't an issue. The only thing I've read is that Wilken and co. were told they couldn't go over slot money.

 

They then took what many see as the best bat available in their slot. He's more polished than guys we have taken in the past (Harvey) or the other high school bats. He has a higher ceiling than the college bats left. There don't seem to be any signability or character questions.

 

It was the best available pick in my opinion.

[apete6]

I know we are not supposed to pencil these kids in for the future since its such an inexact science, but why would we choose a HS kid who plays 3B (and only hit .371 in HS--which isn't that great) when we have Aramis there for AT LEAST 4 more years after this one and hopefully 10 more after that when he is on his way to the HOF.

 

Why not go after a college catcher in Wieters who is a switch hitter (satisfying Hendry's man-love for LH bat) and would be ready in 2 years or so? Barrett is probably not a long-term Cub, Blanco isn't the answer, and Hill and Soto will be Blanco-like in their careers if they're lucky.

[jersey cubs fan]

I know we are not supposed to pencil these kids in for the future since its such an inexact science, but why would we choose a HS kid who plays 3B (and only hit .371 in HS--which isn't that great) when we have Aramis there for AT LEAST 4 more years after this one and hopefully 10 more after that when he is on his way to the HOF.

 

He won't make the majors for at least 4 years. In 4-5 years Ramirez will probably not be the player he is now, and this could allow the Cubs to let him walk without overpaying an old veteran.

[jersey cubs fan]

Speaking on not penciling these guys in:

 

2011

 

4-Patterson

9-Colvin

7-Soriano

8-Pie

5-Vitters

3-?????

2-?????

6-?????

[YearofDaCubs]

I for one am happy that we ended up with Vitters. From what I've read about him the kid is impressive. This is the guy I wanted us to draft and it happened. No complaints here.

[YearofDaCubs]

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2007/06/2007_draft_spot.php

[Brendan]

I know we are not supposed to pencil these kids in for the future since its such an inexact science, but why would we choose a HS kid who plays 3B (and only hit .371 in HS--which isn't that great) when we have Aramis there for AT LEAST 4 more years after this one and hopefully 10 more after that when he is on his way to the HOF.

 

Why not go after a college catcher in Wieters who is a switch hitter (satisfying Hendry's man-love for LH bat) and would be ready in 2 years or so? Barrett is probably not a long-term Cub, Blanco isn't the answer, and Hill and Soto will be Blanco-like in their careers if they're lucky.

 

i thought i read that he got pneumonia this year, explaining the low BA

[RichHillIsABeast]

Woooo!!! Just who I wanted.

 

*refers to sig*

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think Vitters has a good chance of being a major leaguer. I just fear he'll basically be Dave Magagdan. I'd have rather taken a gamble on someone who might have a higher ceiling.

[Brendan]

Josh: No, it's not a big deal because the Cubs and Pirates are both great clubs.

 

a sure-fire bust AND a liar? great.

[weis21]

I think Vitters has a good chance of being a major leaguer. I just fear he'll basically be Dave Magagdan. I'd have rather taken a gamble on someone who might have a higher ceiling.

 

all i know is what the experts have said, and he's supposed to be the best HS hitter in the draft. isn't that a pretty high ceiling?

[jersey cubs fan]

I think Vitters has a good chance of being a major leaguer. I just fear he'll basically be Dave Magagdan. I'd have rather taken a gamble on someone who might have a higher ceiling.

 

Is Magadan an appropriate comp though. He was a part-time player who never hit more than 6 HR in a season. Vitters ceiling isn't that low, is it?