Done with the Cubs this year

[erik316wttn]

I'm one of the most pessimistic people on this board but...c'mon we are alone in second place despite our terrible play. Milwaukee is losing 5 times a week, and you know that the team has played under expectations. The division is ripe for the taking, and we could easily win it.

 

Being in 2nd place by being 4 games under .500 is nothing to brag about.

[CubColtPacer]

I'm one of the most pessimistic people on this board but...c'mon we are alone in second place despite our terrible play. Milwaukee is losing 5 times a week, and you know that the team has played under expectations. The division is ripe for the taking, and we could easily win it.

 

Being in 2nd place by being 4 games under .500 is nothing to brag about.

 

I don't think he meant it in a bragging way, he's just saying that even though the team has been terrible, they still only have to catch one team that is also similarly struggling lately. If they were in 5th place, it would be a much harder road to have 4 teams in front of them play badly-right now they just need the one to keep scuffling and for them to hit some kind of winning streak.

[ctcf]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you already make this thread before?

 

Yep... You did.

 

Thanks for the update that you still hate them though, thats great.

[NewUserName]

My experience....I'm 47 now.....thats 40 years of caring about this.......

 

The older you get.....the easier it gets.

 

My passion was at its peak in my late 20's to mid 30's. It's been less each year.

 

I will say that the 8th inning of game 6 (was that 03? I forget now) against the Marlins.....took a lot out of me. In a good way.

 

So.....if it is any consolation.....the pain will be less as the years go by.

 

It's the truth. Fortunately I'm already pretty numb, and I'm only about to turn 29. 2003 and 2004 (I was at the Mets game where the collapse really began) made me really angry, but now I don't bother. It helps that I root for Philadelphia teams too, because they're just as useless. Once you accept that the Cubs will always be bad and will never win another World Series, you can just take these losses with a laugh and a shake of the head.

 

 

I echo lemmyhearya sentiments.

 

I have seen the collapse of 69, the 70s and early 80s, collapse against San Diego in 84(my favorite player leon durham being the goat), a good young looking team in 89 turning to crap the next couple of years, a GM saying it is better to have 2 good pitchers(Greg Hibbard and ?) than one great pitcher(Maddux), Joe Carter hitting a gamewinning HR for Toronto, the collapse of 2003, Prior and Wood going from part of the best rotation the Cubs have had in my lifetime to nothing, the collapse at the end of 2004. Even when the Cubs are on the cusp of greatness it eludes them. I certainly dont get to worked up anymore about a game on Friday night in LA.

 

I know we traded Carter back in '84, but what does him hitting a home run in the world series nearly a decade later have to do with the Cubs? With the exception of his home run, rbi totals, and sb totals in his earlier career, Carter was a pretty awful player

 

 

Overrated yes but not awful. The Cubs are paying a guy 15 million a season for the next 8 years for the same kind of production up to a similar point in their careers. With a quality top of the order player(Alomar, Molitor) Carter was a good middle of the order hitter

[rickrolled]

It's funny that I wasn't even pissed when we blew it last night, I really wasn't that surprised.

[tkenm356]

I know we traded Carter back in '84, but what does him hitting a home run in the world series nearly a decade later have to do with the Cubs? With the exception of his home run, rbi totals, and sb totals in his earlier career, Carter was a pretty awful player

 

 

Overrated yes but not awful. The Cubs are paying a guy 15 million a season for the next 8 years for the same kind of production up to a similar point in their careers. With a quality top of the order player(Alomar, Molitor) Carter was a good middle of the order hitter

 

I know this is kinda de-railing the thread topic at hand, but Carter was a career .259 hitter with a career .306OBP and .770OPS (only topped an .800OPS 5 times in his 16 year career). Now if you want to argue that he was good in clutch situations, I won't dispute that... but he wasn't that good overall. He hit a lot of home runs and drove in a bunch as well when he had the benefit of hitting in a stacked lineup, and in his prime he stole a decent amount of bases. That was about the extent of it. I'll admit he's not an AWFUL player, but yeah, he was overrated.

 

Still....... what did that have to do with Cubs misery, though?

[hawkcub]

Carter is an example of what one swing at the appropriate time will do for peoples opinions of you.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Carter is an example of what one swing at the appropriate time will do for peoples opinions of you.

 

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[NewUserName]

I know we traded Carter back in '84, but what does him hitting a home run in the world series nearly a decade later have to do with the Cubs? With the exception of his home run, rbi totals, and sb totals in his earlier career, Carter was a pretty awful player

 

 

Overrated yes but not awful. The Cubs are paying a guy 15 million a season for the next 8 years for the same kind of production up to a similar point in their careers. With a quality top of the order player(Alomar, Molitor) Carter was a good middle of the order hitter

 

I know this is kinda de-railing the thread topic at hand, but Carter was a career .259 hitter with a career .306OBP and .770OPS (only topped an .800OPS 5 times in his 16 year career). Now if you want to argue that he was good in clutch situations, I won't dispute that... but he wasn't that good overall. He hit a lot of home runs and drove in a bunch as well when he had the benefit of hitting in a stacked lineup, and in his prime he stole a decent amount of bases. That was about the extent of it. I'll admit he's not an AWFUL player, but yeah, he was overrated.

 

Still....... what did that have to do with Cubs misery, though?

 

Really not much except that Sutcliffe was already retired and we never won a WS with him. So i the long run that trade was not good. Also except for Dawson we didnt have an outfielder who produced as well as Carter for most of the late 80s and early 90s. I know it wasnt the Lou Brock or Rafeal Palmero trade in badness, but neither of those guys hit a game winning HR in the WS. I tried to throw that in with Maddux as examples of player decisions that didnt work out.

 

I would still say up to the Age of 31 Carter was pretty similar to the Fonze. The Cubs just gave him 15 mill a year for 8 years. I would agree that the Fonze is way overrated as a player. He isnt awful though.

[badger1679666666]

Dude, you thought the season was over on April 24th. I don't think anyone's surprised you're done with the Cubs this year.

[ctcf]

Dude, you thought the season was over on April 24th. I don't think anyone's surprised you're done with the Cubs this year.

 

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[BigbadB]

I'm pissed about last night's game. I wasted a lot of energy getting excited about a comeback, only to get disappointed by a bullpen implosion.

 

The good news is that there are no different ways for the Cubs to lose now. They've succeeded at losing in every possible way imagineable. Therefore, there will be no new surprises. Every loss from this point forward will just be redundant in nature.

 

Carry on.

[Fred Hornkohl]

I'm pissed about last night's game. I wasted a lot of energy getting excited about a comeback, only to get disappointed by a bullpen implosion.

 

The good news is that there are no different ways for the Cubs to lose now. They've succeeded at losing in every possible way imagineable. Therefore, there will be no new surprises. Every loss from this point forward will just be redundant in nature.

 

Carry on.

 

You're just thumbing your nose at the Gods, aren't ya ????

[Derwood]

WE'RE AS GOOD AS THE YANKEES!

[hawkcub]

I'm pissed about last night's game. I wasted a lot of energy getting excited about a comeback, only to get disappointed by a bullpen implosion.

 

The good news is that there are no different ways for the Cubs to lose now. They've succeeded at losing in every possible way imagineable. Therefore, there will be no new surprises. Every loss from this point forward will just be redundant in nature.

 

Carry on.

 

Great now they will find a new way today B. Z will probably be throwing a no hitter. Then with 2 outs in the 9th he will give up a walk then the defense will make 3 errors on one play with two outs in the 9th and allow the dodgers to win 2-1.

[cubweiser03]

Done Done.

Thats like locking in our answer, no turning back.

[cubfan1955]

I'm pissed about last night's game. I wasted a lot of energy getting excited about a comeback, only to get disappointed by a bullpen implosion.

 

The good news is that there are no different ways for the Cubs to lose now. They've succeeded at losing in every possible way imagineable. Therefore, there will be no new surprises. Every loss from this point forward will just be redundant in nature.

 

Carry on.

You are seriously underestimating this teams ability to lose games in new and inventive ways. 8-)

[Pinktermite]

I'm amused by this because the same people that say they are done with the Cubs will be the same people all excited that they win two in a row. Man, these guys are "lousy", as the two asian groundskeepers said in "Major League", maybe we can pick up Cerrano on waivers...

[Derwood]

I, for one, can't wait for next week's synergy "Cubs suck" thread. I'm all a-titter

[synergy]

Dude, you thought the season was over on April 24th. I don't think anyone's surprised you're done with the Cubs this year.

 

And I was right.

[Pinktermite]

The year was done on opening day my friends. Gotta love those Cubs.

[ctcf]

With UMF now being the apparent voice of reason I'm officially scared.

[A New Era]

Dude, you thought the season was over on April 24th. I don't think anyone's surprised you're done with the Cubs this year.

 

And I was right.

 

You're on a cubs fan message board. Staying here, will only prolong your suffering. . I don't watch many games anymore myself. It was only by luck I happened to catch them after the rally. I should never have kept watching. :lol:

[UMFan83]

With UMF now being the apparent voice of reason I'm officially scared.

 

I still don't think the Cubs will win the division, but I think their odds are a lot better then what people here are giving them. My prediction of 78 wins looks pretty good right now. The only thing that bothers me is that one of my main reasons was that the starting pitching sucks (along with no emphasis on OBP), but its the bullpen thats doing the sucking.

[NCCubFan]

[i have seen the collapse of 69, the 70s and early 80s, collapse against San Diego in 84(my favorite player leon durham being the goat), a good young looking team in 89 turning to crap the next couple of years, a GM saying it is better to have 2 good pitchers(Greg Hibbard and [b]?[/b]) than one great pitcher(Maddux),

Jose Guzman was the other pitcher signed to replace Maddux.