Barry Bonds is hitting the snot out of the baseball

[NewUserName]

I'm more scared of Tony Dungy's crazy Christian beliefs and how he almost completely forgot about his dead son and continued to coach afterwards..

 

Wow :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

 

 

maybe his crazy Christian beliefs help him in times like when his son has passed away. I know Chritianity isnt very popular here, but the ends seems a lot better than lets say nothing.

[Omar]

I didnt hear too many Cub fans complaining about some of the A holes on the Cubs in 2003.

 

Hell, some of them here still worship them (cough*kent*cough)

 

Kent was only here in 2004.

[Andy]

you got a real story then.. I assume you have the proof (blood and urine samples, etc.) that he did do it. If you do, your one up on Major League Baseball since they don't have ANY proof that Bonds did steroids.

 

I'm sure Bud Selig would love to see your "proof" being that he and 99% of people in baseball don't want to see Bonds break the record.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/03/MNGGFA0UDU65.DTL

[Soul]

you got a real story then.. I assume you have the proof (blood and urine samples, etc.) that he did do it. If you do, your one up on Major League Baseball since they don't have ANY proof that Bonds did steroids.

 

I'm sure Bud Selig would love to see your "proof" being that he and 99% of people in baseball don't want to see Bonds break the record.

 

Read Game of Shadows. There's loads of evidence he used. Loads.

[soccer10k]

you got a real story then.. I assume you have the proof (blood and urine samples, etc.) that he did do it. If you do, your one up on Major League Baseball since they don't have ANY proof that Bonds did steroids.

 

I'm sure Bud Selig would love to see your "proof" being that he and 99% of people in baseball don't want to see Bonds break the record.

 

Everybody and their mother knows Bonds took steroids. Denying that is just stupid at this point. Read Game of Shadows and you'll find all the evidence you need. In a leaked grand jury testimony, he admitted to "unknowingly" taking a couple substances that he thought was flaxseed oil.

 

EDIT: Oops. Didn't see that Soul already mentioned Game of Shadows.

[jaxxradio]

Two problems with the "evidence":

 

#1 It wasn't "leaked" info, it was stolen information. Stolen by the newspaper writers "source". That would be the reason why the writers are serving/served a jail sentence

 

#2 Once again.. you can have all the mountains of "evidence", but the reality is Bonds hasn't tested positive for anything. Until he does, it's all hear-say

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Two problems with the "evidence":

 

#1 It wasn't "leaked" info, it was stolen information. Stolen by the newspaper writers "source". That would be the reason why the writers are serving/served a jail sentence

 

#2 Once again.. you can have all the mountains of "evidence", but the reality is Bonds hasn't tested positive for anything. Until he does, it's all hear-say

 

How are people convicted of anything? Mountains of "evidence".

[Garwilly]

Two problems with the "evidence":

 

#1 It wasn't "leaked" info, it was stolen information. Stolen by the newspaper writers "source". That would be the reason why the writers are serving/served a jail sentence

 

#2 Once again.. you can have all the mountains of "evidence", but the reality is Bonds hasn't tested positive for anything. Until he does, it's all hear-say

 

How are people convicted of anything? Mountains of "evidence".

 

Innocent until proven guilty is only applicable in COURT.

 

Someone saying he took steroids, does not need to meet that same criteria.

[jaxxradio]

Ask yourself this question... Knowing that Bonds is a hated person in the game (and he is).. and knowing that there is nobody who wants him to break the record (Even Selig has said he might not be there when it happens)...

 

I ask you.. Don't you think MLB would have nailed Bonds to the wall by now with all of the so-called "mountain of evidence" that they allegedly have? The obvious answer is yes.. So, why hasn't MLB gone through with nailing Bonds?? Because they DONT have anything on him except alot of hear-say..

 

Until he tests positive, NOBODY has anything on this guy.

[jaxxradio]

Garwilly, the court of public opinion isn't any different than the court of law. I understand that the fans have a right to voice their opinion, but trashing a persons reputation (even a person who is hard to appreciate like Bonds), is wrong.

[Soul]

Ask yourself this question... Knowing that Bonds is a hated person in the game (and he is).. and knowing that there is nobody who wants him to break the record (Even Selig has said he might not be there when it happens)...

 

I ask you.. Don't you think MLB would have nailed Bonds to the wall by now with all of the so-called "mountain of evidence" that they allegedly have? The obvious answer is yes.. So, why hasn't MLB gone through with nailing Bonds?? Because they DONT have anything on him except alot of hear-say..

 

Until he tests positive, NOBODY has anything on this guy.

 

This is simply ridiculous, but believe it if you want to. If you think all the documentation they have on Bonds amounts to hearsay, then there's nothing more to say. MLB isn't going after him for a variety of reasons, none of them have anything to do with whether he could be proven in a criminal court of law to have used steroids.

[jaxxradio]

Soul, I understand what you are saying.. all I am saying is it doesn't make sense for MLB to keep Bonds in the game if they have evidence that can throw Bonds out of the game.

 

Bud Selig desperately wants to clean the game of steroids and doesn't want Bonds to break the record. So, if they have anything on Bonds that could force him out of baseball, Selig would see to it that its used.

[OleMissCub]

Barry Bonds can go to hell

 

Here's to Arod breaking his single season record

[Soul]

Baseball has a drug testing policy in place. That policy specifically mentions a player must test positive before action is taken.

 

Bonds has not tested positive.

 

However, it's completely clear he took steroids from the documentation which was leaked in Game of Shadows. Bonds himself sued the authors for the facts that were leaked. At least one of the authors is serving jail time for the offense.

 

These were real, sealed court documents leaked to the public. They indicate Bonds' usage. He's not going to be kicked out of baseball because he didn't violate the letter of the MLB rules. That has nothing to do with whether or not he used steroids.

 

There's an important distinction here. Bonds will probably never be called to pay criminally or legally for his actions. But as fans, we should not be forced to like this guy, or accept his home run record, when we know damn well he cheated to get it.

 

That's all I'm saying.

[soccer10k]

Soul, I understand what you are saying.. all I am saying is it doesn't make sense for MLB to keep Bonds in the game if they have evidence that can throw Bonds out of the game.

 

Bud Selig desperately wants to clean the game of steroids and doesn't want Bonds to break the record. So, if they have anything on Bonds that could force him out of baseball, Selig would see to it that its used.

 

The problem isn't that Selig won't do anything. The problem is that he can't. Steroid weren't illegal when Bonds started using. So even with all the evidence that he used, all Bonds has to say is that steroids weren't illegal in baseball when he took them and he's safe. But that doesn't mean he didn't use them.

 

Selig realizes that he would have one hell of a mess on his hands if he goes after Bonds and tries to kick him out of the game. As much as it would tarnish Bonds reputation, it would tarnish Selig's a whole hell of a lot more because it was his complacency and greed that allowed these players to roid up for as long as they did. Selig would be screwed if he ever tried to do something.

[TruffleShuffle]

Two problems with the "evidence":

 

#1 It wasn't "leaked" info, it was stolen information. Stolen by the newspaper writers "source". That would be the reason why the writers are serving/served a jail sentence

 

#2 Once again.. you can have all the mountains of "evidence", but the reality is Bonds hasn't tested positive for anything. Until he does, it's all hear-say

 

well I don't think we have definitive proof that bin Laden was behind the WTC attacks, but that hasn't stopped us from pursuing him. When all reasonable evidence points to something being the case, I don't think you're going too far out on a limb by assuming it to be true.

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

you got a real story then.. I assume you have the proof (blood and urine samples, etc.) that he did do it. If you do, your one up on Major League Baseball since they don't have ANY proof that Bonds did steroids.

 

I'm sure Bud Selig would love to see your "proof" being that he and 99% of people in baseball don't want to see Bonds break the record.

 

I have proof....

 

http://espanol.geocities.com/bjarteaga2004/img/barry_bonds.JPG

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2004/12/03/mn_bonds_001_cag.jpg

 

You know, I'm not saying he didn't take steroids, but thats HORRIBLE "proof."

 

Not only do those two look like natural progression, but the second one is not out of this world for an athlete.

 

I mean he looks like he's barely out of HS in that first picture.

[Chocolate Milk]

Bonds doing some more yardwork tonight.

[BigSlick]

Barry Bonds can go to hell

 

Here's to Arod breaking his single season record

 

Also that he and...*sigh* Pujols...get to 800 home runs.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Bonds doing some more yardwork tonight.

 

I'm not a fan of Bonds or anything but I thought it was hilarious that he hit that out at Dodger Stadium.

 

I would LOVE LOVE LOVE it if he broke Aaron's record in LA or San Diego. That'd be classic.

[soccer10k]

Barry Bonds can go to hell

 

Here's to Arod breaking his single season record

 

Also that he and...*sigh* Pujols...get to 800 home runs.

 

That will be hard to do. Considering he's 40 now, he'll have to play at least til he's 55 to break it.

[bc2k]

Two problems with the "evidence":

 

#1 It wasn't "leaked" info, it was stolen information. Stolen by the newspaper writers "source". That would be the reason why the writers are serving/served a jail sentence

 

Whether the information was released legally or not, doesn't mean it's false.

 

#2 Once again.. you can have all the mountains of "evidence", but the reality is Bonds hasn't tested positive for anything. Until he does, it's all hear-say

 

Urine and blood testing is not the only way to know if someone has ever used an illegal substance. Admitting illegal drug use in a court of law is another way.