4/21 StLouis (Reyes) @ CUBS (Marquis), 2:55, FOX & XM187

[PrimeTime]

Hi, My names Will Ohman and I only pitch good when the game dose't matter and were up 6 runs Edited April 21, 2007 by PrimeTime

[Post Count Padder]

Cubs win, Cubs win

 

 

I love beating the Cardinals.

[Sosa21MVP]

So were gunna win this one and get our hopes up..then of course the trend will go on where well lose tomorrow,then win,then lose..and keep up the 3 and 4 games back of .500...this sucks

 

That is a great outlook to have. :wink:

[Brian]

Bulls win

 

Cubs win

 

Ohman 2 shutout innings

 

:shock:

[texascub]

I'm pretty sure Jones is a better hitter then Pie, but ok?

 

Completely false.

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

See the post right below this yours. Not to mention that Pie gets amazing reads on balls and has a superb throwing arm; two things that Jones does not have.

 

I don't know why people are calling for Pie and Murton's heads. It really makes little sense.

 

I don't understand why people are calling for Murton's head, but there were serious questions if Pie could hit ML pitching all offseason. So far, he hasn't done anything to change those question marks, and people wonder if he's really ready. He should be better than Jones eventually, but I doubt he will be this year.

 

As long as JJ keeps pulling the ground on the ball to the right side of the infield, I'd much rather have Pie in there. He's probably going to get on base just as much as Jones even if he doesn't offer the same power. He's also much quicker on the basepaths.

[snoodmonger]

any concerns about marquis throwing 120 pitches this early in the season?

[Flames24Rulz]

I'm pretty sure Jones is a better hitter then Pie, but ok?

 

Completely false.

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

See the post right below this yours. Not to mention that Pie gets amazing reads on balls and has a superb throwing arm; two things that Jones does not have.

 

I don't know why people are calling for Pie and Murton's heads. It really makes little sense.

 

This is about hitting not defense. You can't say that Pie is a better hitter right now than Jones because it just isn't true. The future is another thing altogether. Pie still needs to work on his hitting; he's not a finished product!

 

I think it's safe to say that Jones' defense has cost us a game already this season. Spin it any way you want it, but Jones' defense sucks.

 

The only problem Pie had in AAA was his lack of XBHs. That's pretty much the only thing he needs some polishing up on. Maybe continuing to work on his plate discipline, but I think his approach has been fine.

 

An OF of Soriano-Pie-Murton would be the best option for this team.

[Fred Hornkohl]

             St. Louis            CUBS
P/PA              4.11            3.76
RBI%              0.00            0.20
R/BR              0.00            0.60
BA               0.206           0.294
OBP              0.270           0.294
SLG              0.206           0.588
OPS              0.476           0.882
ERA               5.63            0.00
BB/9              0.00            1.00
K/9               7.88            6.00

[CubsWin]

So were gunna win this one and get our hopes up..then of course the trend will go on where well lose tomorrow,then win,then lose..and keep up the 3 and 4 games back of .500...this sucks

The Cubs are beating the Cardinals 6-0 in the 9th. Marquis throws 7 shutout innings against his old team and this sucks? :shock:

 

This is the start of a 9 game win streak.

I wish.

 

I wonder if Fred can whip up the odds of the Cubs 8 more in a row after this? Gotta be in the thousands to one, I would think.

[CubColtPacer]

I'm pretty sure Jones is a better hitter then Pie, but ok?

 

Completely false.

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

See the post right below this yours. Not to mention that Pie gets amazing reads on balls and has a superb throwing arm; two things that Jones does not have.

 

I don't know why people are calling for Pie and Murton's heads. It really makes little sense.

 

I don't understand why people are calling for Murton's head, but there were serious questions if Pie could hit ML pitching all offseason. So far, he hasn't done anything to change those question marks, and people wonder if he's really ready. He should be better than Jones eventually, but I doubt he will be this year.

 

As long as JJ keeps pulling the ground on the ball to the right side of the infield, I'd much rather have Pie in there. He's probably going to get on base just as much as Jones even if he doesn't offer the same power. He's also much quicker on the basepaths.

 

Jones was hitting a lot of deep drives that the wind was pushing back onto the warning track last week. He looks like he made an adjustment, and he probably will adjust back when the wind starts blowing out a little more often.

[98navigator]

I'm pretty sure Jones is a better hitter then Pie, but ok?

 

Completely false.

 

That makes a lot of sense.

 

See the post right below this yours. Not to mention that Pie gets amazing reads on balls and has a superb throwing arm; two things that Jones does not have.

 

I don't know why people are calling for Pie and Murton's heads. It really makes little sense.

 

This is about hitting not defense. You can't say that Pie is a better hitter right now than Jones because it just isn't true. The future is another thing altogether. Pie still needs to work on his hitting; he's not a finished product!

 

As stated before, Pie projects to have almost an identical OPS to Jacque Jones this year.

 

Projections about MiL players don't mean anything. Pie has to hit. He has a lot of offensive weaknesses that ML pitchers will exploit.

[cubweiser03]

So were gunna win this one and get our hopes up..then of course the trend will go on where well lose tomorrow,then win,then lose..and keep up the 3 and 4 games back of .500...this sucks

The Cubs are beating the Cardinals 6-0 in the 9th. Marquis throws 7 shutout innings against his old team and this sucks? :shock:

 

This is the start of a 9 game win streak.

I wish.

 

I wonder if Fred can whip up the odds of the Cubs 8 more in a row after this? Gotta be in the thousands to one, I would think.

 

So....your saying we have a chance....

[CubsWin]

Yay, Cubs win a game that Rich Hill didn't start!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Seriously...

[CubsWin]

So were gunna win this one and get our hopes up..then of course the trend will go on where well lose tomorrow,then win,then lose..and keep up the 3 and 4 games back of .500...this sucks

The Cubs are beating the Cardinals 6-0 in the 9th. Marquis throws 7 shutout innings against his old team and this sucks? :shock:

 

This is the start of a 9 game win streak.

I wish.

 

I wonder if Fred can whip up the odds of the Cubs 8 more in a row after this? Gotta be in the thousands to one, I would think.

 

So....your saying we have a chance....

Not much of one.

[98navigator]

Hi, My names Will Ohman and I only pitch good when the game dose't matter and were up 6 runs

 

He can't really do that 100% of the time; he did give up a 3-run bomb in, what was, a 12-1 game a few days ago. :wink:

[Fred Hornkohl]

Saturday 21 April 2007

St. Louis @ CUBS

14:55

 

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
St. Louis       0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0              0  7  1
CUBS            3 1 0 0 0 0 1 1                6 10  1



St. Louis
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Eckstein      ss       4   0   0   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Duncan        lf       5   0   2   0   0   3   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Pujols        1b       3   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1
Rolen         3b       4   0   1   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Edmonds       cf       3   0   0   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Taguchi       ph-cf    1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Wilson        rf       3   0   1   0   1   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Kennedy       2b       4   0   1   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Hancock       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Bennett       c        4   0   1   0   0   0   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Reyes         p        2   0   0   0   0   1   4   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Schumaker     ph       1   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Thompson      p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Johnson       p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Miles         2b       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0

totals                35   0   7   0   1   6  21   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   2



CUBS
                     ab   r   h rbi  bb   k lob  sb  cs sac gdp   e  2b  3b  hr  sf  hb
Pie           cf       4   0   0   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Murton        lf       4   2   2   0   0   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Lee           1b       4   1   1   0   0   1   2   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ramirez       3b       4   0   0   0   0   1   3   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Barrett       c        4   1   1   3   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0
Jones         rf       4   0   2   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
DeRosa        2b       4   1   1   0   0   2   3   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Cedeno        ss       3   1   2   2   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   1   1   0   1   0   0
Marquis       p        2   0   1   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   0   0   0
Ward          ph       1   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
Ohman         p        0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0

totals                34   6  10   5   0   7  13   0   1   0   0   1   4   0   2   0   0



St. Louis
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Reyes            6.0   7   4   4   0   5   1   90
Thompson         0.3   1   1   1   0   1   1   5
Johnson          0.7   0   0   0   0   0   0   10
Hancock          1.0   2   1   0   0   1   0   23

totals           8.0  10   6   5   0   7   2  128


CUBS
                 IP   H   R  ER  BB   K  HR  Pit
Marquis          7.0   7   0   0   0   5   0  117
Ohman            2.0   0   0   0   1   1   0   27

totals           9.0   7   0   0   1   6   0  144



Home runs:
St. Louis: none
CUBS: Barrett (3), Cedeno (2)

W: Marquis (2-1)
S: none
L: Reyes (0-3)

T: 2:43
A: 41,637

[CubColtPacer]

any concerns about marquis throwing 120 pitches this early in the season?

 

No, he's pretty used to it. In 2006, he had 10 games where he threw over 105 pitches. 05, 15 games over 105, and 2 of those went over 120. 04, 16 games over 105. He doesn't really have any violent pitches either, so the extra pitches are probably less stress on his arm than some other pitchers.

[cubweiser03]

ummm. whattsup with barrett wearing the helmet for the interview.

[KyHen]

Cards' line this year:

.229 AVG / .302 OBP / .334 SLG / .636 OPS

 

Neifi Perez's career line:

.268 AVG / .298 OBP / .376 SLG / .674 OPS

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Cards' line this year:

.229 AVG / .302 OBP / .334 SLG / .636 OPS

 

Wow, that's just brutal.

[CubColtPacer]

Cards' line this year:

.229 AVG / .302 OBP / .334 SLG / .636 OPS

 

Neifi Perez's career line:

.268 AVG / .298 OBP / .376 SLG / .674 OPS

 

Hey, at least you're still ahead of 2 teams in the OBP department.

[98navigator]

I just realized that Marquis didn't walk anyone while striking out 5. This is his best start of the season by far.

[Fred Hornkohl]

So were gunna win this one and get our hopes up..then of course the trend will go on where well lose tomorrow,then win,then lose..and keep up the 3 and 4 games back of .500...this sucks

The Cubs are beating the Cardinals 6-0 in the 9th. Marquis throws 7 shutout innings against his old team and this sucks? :shock:

 

This is the start of a 9 game win streak.

I wish.

 

I wonder if Fred can whip up the odds of the Cubs 8 more in a row after this? Gotta be in the thousands to one, I would think.

 

I put the probability of the CUBS winning their next 8 games at 0.000826405024652576 which is approx 1210:1

[FergieJ31]

I'd take those odds Fred ;) If the "Cubs win 8 in a row" contract traded on TradeSports.com, fair odds would be closer to 255 to 1.

[gflore34]

So were gunna win this one and get our hopes up..then of course the trend will go on where well lose tomorrow,then win,then lose..and keep up the 3 and 4 games back of .500...this sucks

The Cubs are beating the Cardinals 6-0 in the 9th. Marquis throws 7 shutout innings against his old team and this sucks? :shock:

 

This is the start of a 9 game win streak.

I wish.

 

I wonder if Fred can whip up the odds of the Cubs 8 more in a row after this? Gotta be in the thousands to one, I would think.

 

I put the probability of the CUBS winning their next 8 games at 0.000826405024652576 which is approx 1210:1

 

Or (7/17) to the 8th.