4/20 Cards (Looper) vs. Cubs (Lilly), 1:20, CSN & XM-187

[Drew Doughty]

Should've pinch run with Pie.

 

seriously, how does he get left on the bench in this situation? Him and Barrett both should have come into the game in the 9th to pinch run and pinch hit.

[Banedon]

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/batter_6.jsp

 

6.08

The batter becomes a runner and is entitled to first base without liability to be put out (provided he advances to and touches first base) when --

(a) Four “balls” have been called by the umpire;

Rule 6.08(a) Comment: A batter who is entitled to first base because of a base on balls must go to first base and touch the base before other base runners are forced to advance. This applies when bases are full and applies when a substitute runner is put into the game.

If, in advancing, the base runner thinks there is a play and he slides past the base before or after touching it he may be put out by the fielder tagging him. If he fails to touch the base to which he is entitled and attempts to advance beyond that base he may be put out by tagging him or the base he missed.

 

I think that explains what happened, if I'm reading it correctly.

 

Yep...I just posted the same rule above.

[Soul]

Rule 6.08

 

...If, in advancing, the base runner thinks there is a play and he slides past the base before or after touching it he may be put out by the fielder tagging him. If he fails to touch the base to which he is entitled and attempts to advance beyond that base he may be put out by tagging him or the base he missed....

 

thanx. it's official. Ronny must go.

[UMFan83]

I think something we can all agree on is that Ronny Cedeno is a crappy baserunner. And a moron.

 

I'll take you one step further. Ronny Cedeno is a crappy baseball player, and has no business in the major leagues.

 

I'm sure he's a great kid. But he's the Sanjaya of Cubbie-dom. He needs to be gone. You've got Angel Guzman at AAA and this guy is in the majors, for Christ's sake.

 

He's not a great kid. He's married and has kids in Venezuela apparently, but last year he was repeatedly harassing my roommates sister and her friends trying to hook up with them. I even have his old cell phone number as proof.

[Garwilly]

If he walks, isn't a dead ball situation?

 

Hmmm, I can't see the game but surely on a walk it's a dead ball situation.

 

no it's not.

 

Why not?

 

You can advance after a wild pitch on ball 4.

 

You can keep running to 2nd base after a walk.

 

You can steal a base as a walk occurs.

 

It just isnt a dead ball.

[VanceJergins]

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that is all

 

0-4, you friggin genius.

[soccer10k]

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that is all

 

And he did what exactly to help the Cubs win today? Oh yeah, nothing.

[abuck1220]

If he walks, isn't a dead ball situation?

 

Hmmm, I can't see the game but surely on a walk it's a dead ball situation.

 

no it's not.

 

Why not?

 

read the thread.

[Soul]

Since it was never ruled a dead ball the play is still alive?

 

No. It's an out because even on a walk you are entitled to take a base, but if you overslide then all bets are off an you can be tagged out.

 

Ronny took more than he was entitled to.

[Derwood]

If he walks, isn't a dead ball situation?

 

Hmmm, I can't see the game but surely on a walk it's a dead ball situation.

 

no it's not.

 

Why not?

 

on a walk, the runner on 1st gets a free "dead ball" pass to 2nd base. Once he touches 2nd, the "free pass" is over, and if he comes off the bag, it's considered an attempt to take 3rd, thus he can be tagged out.

[pitchcs]

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that is all

 

0-4, you friggin genius.

 

I mean hoestly, let's face it, Dusty Baker ruined Matt Murton.

[RegulusBlue]

MURTON IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF AND CEDENO IS JUST NOT VERY SMART ABOUT BASEBALL!!!!!!!

 

Why is Murton pissing you off?

Is it because he's been thrust only into end game situations as a young player against pitchers he's never faced in his only AB of the game?

Is it because Lou is putting him in that spot?

Is it because the Cubs system hates OBP and tries to remove that quality from his plate approach?

 

Which one is it?

[illiniguy]

The great news is tomorrow Bob and Len will say, oh this team is gonna hit. No fellas it isn't it is a poorly contructed piece of crap.

[YearofDaCubs]

keep swinging at the first pitch murton you idiot.

What a disappointment he has been. He's officially a Cub now. UNreal with this team.

[Andy]

I mean...

 

NO ONE loses games like this.

 

NO ONE.

[VanceJergins]

sig

 

that is all

 

0-4, you friggin genius.

 

I mean hoestly, let's face it, Dusty Baker ruined Matt Murton.

 

I sincerely hope thats sarcasm.....Please let that be sarcasm.

[anabiono]

i feel sick

[illiniguy]

I mean...

 

NO ONE loses games like this.

 

NO ONE.

The best part is Lou doesn't even care. He had no idea what he was getting himself into.

[rickrolled]

The great news is tomorrow Bob and Len will say, oh this team is gonna hit. No fellas it isn't it is a poorly contructed piece of crap.

 

nah, they won't say that, the game's on fox

[abuck1220]

hey everybody...murton went 0-1. a lot of other guys went 0-4.

[soccer10k]

If he walks, isn't a dead ball situation?

 

Hmmm, I can't see the game but surely on a walk it's a dead ball situation.

 

no it's not.

 

Why not?

 

read the thread.

 

Yeah, got it now.

[Butterscup1679666578]

The great news is tomorrow Bob and Len will say, oh this team is gonna hit. No fellas it isn't it is a poorly contructed piece of crap.

 

The game is on Fox, so just wait until Joe Buck gets to say things.

[Derwood]

In the past 2 days, the Cubs have scored a grand total of 4 runs off of Mark Redman and Braden Looper

[Flames24Rulz]

The great news is tomorrow Bob and Len will say, oh this team is gonna hit. No fellas it isn't it is a poorly contructed piece of crap.

 

The great news is that they're not announcing the game tomorrow. I'm getting completely sick of their excuses.

[b_wiggy_66]

MURTON IS REALLY PISSING ME OFF AND CEDENO IS JUST NOT VERY SMART ABOUT BASEBALL!!!!!!!

 

Why is Murton pissing you off?

Is it because he's been thrust only into end game situations as a young player against pitchers he's never faced in his only AB of the game?

Is it because Lou is putting him in that spot?

Is it because the Cubs system hates OBP and tries to remove that quality from his plate approach?

 

Which one is it?

 

Even when he has played and started this year he hasn't looked good. He doesn't do anyhting good besides being patient, and he hasnt even done that this year.