Murton getting benched again for lesser player

[Butterscup1679666578]

Here's the latest batting lines on these 2 guys. Please don't flame me about sample sizes..... I really do get it.

 

04/02 - 04/11      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Murton             15    3    4    0    0    0    4    0    1    4  0.267  0.313  0.267  0.579
Floyd              21    2    7    2    0    0    9    2    1    2  0.333  0.364  0.429  0.792

 

Yep. Floyd is hitting, keep on letting him play.

 

That said, giving Jones a day off and letting both Floyd and Murton play isn't a bad idea.

[Omar]

Initially hiring Lou scared the hell out of me. Then he said all the right things in the offseason and the spring and I felt better.

 

He was lying.

 

We're done for.

 

He's made good decisions so far. Things are just not falling into place.

[Geech]

Please don't flame me about sample sizes..... I really do get it.

 

Then why did you post it?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Please don't flame me about sample sizes..... I really do get it.

 

Then why did you post it?

 

He likes flamers. 8-[

[Geech]

He likes flamers. 8-[

 

Hey, it's to be ashamed of. Some of my best friends don't understand sample size.

[ltb]

Yep. Floyd is hitting, keep on letting him play.

 

a .792 OPS from a corner outfielder is not "hitting."

 

sample size blah blah blah, i know. you still can't call it "hitting."

[Outshined_One]

That said, giving Jones a day off and letting both Floyd and Murton play isn't a bad idea.

 

See, this is what bothers me. If Lou were to play Murton in RF, would Murton all of a sudden turn into a pumpkin? We now know that Jacque can't hit lefties worth a lick, so why not just let Murton sub in for Jones when the Cubs face one?

[NewUserName]

That said, giving Jones a day off and letting both Floyd and Murton play isn't a bad idea.

 

See, this is what bothers me. If Lou were to play Murton in RF, would Murton all of a sudden turn into a pumpkin? We now know that Jacque can't hit lefties worth a lick, so why not just let Murton sub in for Jones when the Cubs face one?

 

Its because Jock is a proven veteran. Murton deserves to play just as much as Jones, Derosa and Isturius. Somehow these 3 are given starting jobs because of what they did in the past. Murton does not?

[Tracer Bullet]

Please don't flame me about sample sizes..... I really do get it.

 

Then why did you post it?

 

Yeah, I don't get that Fred. If you understand that the sample size make those stats have almost no predictive value, why did you post them? What was the point, other than to support the Floyd > Murton claim?

 

If Floyd started hot and had a 1.000 OPS or something (or even .900), I could at least understand why Lou thought he deserved all the ABs. I wouldn't agree, necessarily, but I could understand. But Floyd is putting up average numbers and Murton is putting up a solid OBP and bad SLG, I think in large part b/c he feels like he has to be aggressive in order to win ABs. Lou is quickly losing my support.

[Mephistopheles]

Guys we're all missing the base completely. Lou and his son are in the same fantasy league, it's h2h. They're playing this week. Matt will play more next week surely.

[SouthSideRyan]

Please don't flame me about sample sizes..... I really do get it.

 

Then why did you post it?

 

Yeah, I don't get that Fred. If you understand that the sample size make those stats have almost no predictive value, why did you post them? What was the point, other than to support the Floyd > Murton claim?

 

It's what Fred does, he posts stats. Almost never with a slant to the stats, he just puts them out there for those who care.

[RegulusBlue]

And Murton gets another late game single AB to try and earn a start, despite him being the "starter"?

 

Awesome. Keep playing Theriot, Izturis, and Cedeno, Lou. That will surely save us. Especially when Aram is out, and Soriano is a steaming pile.

 

Gotta love Floyd's OPS though...

 

/vomit

[cubweiser03]

And Murton gets another late game single AB to try and earn a start, despite him being the "starter"?

 

Awesome. Keep playing Theriot, Izturis, and Cedeno, Lou. That will surely save us. Especially when Aram is out, and Soriano is a steaming pile.

 

Gotta love Floyd's OPS though...

 

/vomit

 

This doesnt make ANY sense. Its as if you are looking for ways to bitch about lou. The Riot's and Izturis, Cedeno's playing time has NOTHING to do with Murton. Unless Murton carries an infielders glove this is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion.

[illiniguy]

And Murton gets another late game single AB to try and earn a start, despite him being the "starter"?

 

Awesome. Keep playing Theriot, Izturis, and Cedeno, Lou. That will surely save us. Especially when Aram is out, and Soriano is a steaming pile.

 

Gotta love Floyd's OPS though...

 

/vomit

 

This doesnt make ANY sense. Its as if you are looking for ways to bitch about lou. The Riot's and Izturis, Cedeno's playing time has NOTHING to do with Murton. Unless Murton carries an infielders glove this is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion.

Or Soriano could play 2nd and Jacque CF and Murton RF. You know to get Cedeno out of there.

[cubweiser03]

And Murton gets another late game single AB to try and earn a start, despite him being the "starter"?

 

Awesome. Keep playing Theriot, Izturis, and Cedeno, Lou. That will surely save us. Especially when Aram is out, and Soriano is a steaming pile.

 

Gotta love Floyd's OPS though...

 

/vomit

 

This doesnt make ANY sense. Its as if you are looking for ways to bitch about lou. The Riot's and Izturis, Cedeno's playing time has NOTHING to do with Murton. Unless Murton carries an infielders glove this is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion.

Or Soriano could play 2nd and Jacque CF and Murton RF. You know to get Cedeno out of there.

 

Oh thats right how could i forget. Those guys play those postions all the time and its 2005 for Soriano. 30 minutes of Fungo practice with Trammell will do the trick for Soriano. Piece of cake.

[illiniguy]

And Murton gets another late game single AB to try and earn a start, despite him being the "starter"?

 

Awesome. Keep playing Theriot, Izturis, and Cedeno, Lou. That will surely save us. Especially when Aram is out, and Soriano is a steaming pile.

 

Gotta love Floyd's OPS though...

 

/vomit

 

This doesnt make ANY sense. Its as if you are looking for ways to bitch about lou. The Riot's and Izturis, Cedeno's playing time has NOTHING to do with Murton. Unless Murton carries an infielders glove this is absolutely irrelevant to the discussion.

Or Soriano could play 2nd and Jacque CF and Murton RF. You know to get Cedeno out of there.

 

Oh thats right how could i forget. Those guys play those postions all the time and its 2005 for Soriano. 30 minutes of Fungo practice with Trammell will do the trick for Soriano. Piece of cake.

It is worth a try for a 3 game series. Over the entire season we would have to promote Patterson, but I don't think this would kill us every now and again.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Now, boys and girls, here's a data set thta's interesting, informative, and relevant to the current discussion for you to look at.

 

04/02 - 04/14      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS  BABIP
Murton             16    3    4    0    0    0    4    0    1    4  0.250  0.294  0.250  0.544  0.333
Floyd              25    4    8    2    0    0   10    2    1    2  0.320  0.346  0.400  0.746  0.348

 

Now, it's all right to go "oooo" and "aaaahh", but don't even think about trying to make a statistical inference from this data set. OK?

[soapy]

I don't have a problem with Floyd getting a big chunk of time when he's hitting well. But Murton should be getting some time in RF if that's the case. I don't see why the three of them can't be in some sort of "rotation" of sorts. Restricting Murton to only starting against LHP is a mistake. He's better than that.

[VanceJergins]

What ticks me off is that Lou is using Dusty's method of helping out the young guy. Give him scattered late inning at bats to help get his stroke back. I would like to point out that this is not a good method.

[Fred Hornkohl]

What ticks me off is that Lou is using Dusty's method of helping out the young guy. Give him scattered late inning at bats to help get his stroke back. I would like to point out that this is not a good method.

 

Give me a break. Dusty started Murton 122 times in left field last season. That's more than 75% of the time !!

[Rob]

What ticks me off is that Lou is using Dusty's method of helping out the young guy. Give him scattered late inning at bats to help get his stroke back. I would like to point out that this is not a good method.

 

Give me a break. Dusty started Murton 122 times in left field last season. That's more than 75% of the time !!

 

Honest question.

 

Do you know how many times he got yanked for a defensive sub or in a double switch?

[Fred Hornkohl]

What ticks me off is that Lou is using Dusty's method of helping out the young guy. Give him scattered late inning at bats to help get his stroke back. I would like to point out that this is not a good method.

 

Give me a break. Dusty started Murton 122 times in left field last season. That's more than 75% of the time !!

 

Honest question.

 

Do you know how many times he got yanked for a defensive sub or in a double switch?

 

That would take a lot of digging, game by game. I'm afraid I'm just not that curious.

[VanceJergins]

What ticks me off is that Lou is using Dusty's method of helping out the young guy. Give him scattered late inning at bats to help get his stroke back. I would like to point out that this is not a good method.

 

Give me a break. Dusty started Murton 122 times in left field last season. That's more than 75% of the time !!

 

By "young guy", I wasn't just referring to Murton. And besides, when Murton was struggling last year, thats exactly what Dusty did. He barely played him and gave him scattered at bats.

[Fred Hornkohl]

What ticks me off is that Lou is using Dusty's method of helping out the young guy. Give him scattered late inning at bats to help get his stroke back. I would like to point out that this is not a good method.

 

Give me a break. Dusty started Murton 122 times in left field last season. That's more than 75% of the time !!

 

By "young guy", I wasn't just referring to Murton. And besides, when Murton was struggling last year, thats exactly what Dusty did. He barely played him and gave him scattered at bats.

 

Nice attempt at a save there...... but there were only 3 instances all season where Murton did not start for more than 2 consecutive games. Twice he sat for 3 games in a row, and once for 4. The kid got over 500 PAs last year. Now..... you wanna talk about Cedeno ??

[Flames24Rulz]

He did play Murton a lot in the 2nd half of the season, but I'd like to know how much he played Murton in the first month and a half before the bottom fell out.