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This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

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This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

Thank you.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

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http://www.festastuff.com/Merchant2/fall_images/W0765.jpg

 

I remember when that shirt used to say 312 on it, as all of Chicago was 312 and all the suburbs were 708

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

as i alluded to earlier, i think the cubs currently feel that building a new park (with city money, no doubt) would create such a negative environment with their fanbase and the city that it wouldn't really allow them to make any more money. as soon as the situation changes, or, more likely, the cubs figure out some way to change the situation, they'll build that park.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

Ridiculous. Just as many people go to games to experience Wrigley Field as go to experience a Cubs game. "Wrigley Field" is just as much of a draw, if not MORE than "The Cubs".

Posted (edited)
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day.

 

The other thing is that the prinstine-ness of Wrigley helps keep the park full when the team sucks, which helps prevent firesales of the talent during those off years.

Edited by USSoccer
Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day.

 

That's going to be pretty tough to figure out.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

Ridiculous. Just as many people go to games to experience Wrigley Field as go to experience a Cubs game. "Wrigley Field" is just as much of a draw, if not MORE than "The Cubs".

 

which, many would argue, is the very reason the front office isn't compelled to put as much effort as they can into fielding a winning club, as the place will be packed one way or the other. Personally, I'd rather have a championship team than a quaint ballpark (if I had to choose one or the other). Don't get me wrong, I love Wrigley and don't want it to go away, but the fact that people go there just to go is a problem in many ways

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

Ridiculous. Just as many people go to games to experience Wrigley Field as go to experience a Cubs game. "Wrigley Field" is just as much of a draw, if not MORE than "The Cubs".

 

which, many would argue, is the very reason the front office isn't compelled to put as much effort as they can into fielding a winning club, as the place will be packed one way or the other. Personally, I'd rather have a championship team than a quaint ballpark (if I had to choose one or the other). Don't get me wrong, I love Wrigley and don't want it to go away, but the fact that people go there just to go is a problem in many ways

 

so you like the ads because they may upset the fans? what is the argument now?

 

also, the whole "championship team over quaint ballpark" is just a waste of time. a few years from now, im pretty sure we're going to have neither.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day.

 

That's going to be pretty tough to figure out.

 

They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

Ridiculous. Just as many people go to games to experience Wrigley Field as go to experience a Cubs game. "Wrigley Field" is just as much of a draw, if not MORE than "The Cubs".

 

which, many would argue, is the very reason the front office isn't compelled to put as much effort as they can into fielding a winning club, as the place will be packed one way or the other. Personally, I'd rather have a championship team than a quaint ballpark (if I had to choose one or the other). Don't get me wrong, I love Wrigley and don't want it to go away, but the fact that people go there just to go is a problem in many ways

 

so you like the ads because they may upset the fans? what is the argument now?

 

also, the whole "championship team over quaint ballpark" is just a waste of time. a few years from now, im pretty sure we're going to have neither.

 

There is a big difference between "liking the ads" and "not caring about them". I fall into the 2nd category. Would I prefer they not be there? Sure, but I'm not getting my panties in a bunch about it now that it's happening

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day.

 

That's going to be pretty tough to figure out.

 

They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome.

 

The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new.

 

How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this?

 

The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this.

 

They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

Ridiculous. Just as many people go to games to experience Wrigley Field as go to experience a Cubs game. "Wrigley Field" is just as much of a draw, if not MORE than "The Cubs".

 

which, many would argue, is the very reason the front office isn't compelled to put as much effort as they can into fielding a winning club, as the place will be packed one way or the other. Personally, I'd rather have a championship team than a quaint ballpark (if I had to choose one or the other). Don't get me wrong, I love Wrigley and don't want it to go away, but the fact that people go there just to go is a problem in many ways

 

so you like the ads because they may upset the fans? what is the argument now?

 

also, the whole "championship team over quaint ballpark" is just a waste of time. a few years from now, im pretty sure we're going to have neither.

 

There is a big difference between "liking the ads" and "not caring about them". I fall into the 2nd category. Would I prefer they not be there? Sure, but I'm not getting my panties in a bunch about it now that it's happening

 

ooooo what color are they

Posted

I don’t understand the people who say ‘I want to win the WS, it doesn’t matter what else happens’ as if the WS victory is the only reason to follow the team. Fact is, I watch baseball in Wrigley from April to September every year. I enjoy watching and following the team, and I’m disappointed at the end of every year when the Cubs don’t win it all. It doesn’t mean that the previous 6 months of watching and following the team have been misspent.

 

I want a Cubs WS victory more than any other championship for the teams that I follow, but I don’t want it at the expense of my enjoyment of the game or the team. If the Cubs turned around one off-season and got rid of everyone on the 40-man roster and bought new players, I wouldn’t enjoy a WS the next year because it wouldn’t really be my team. A Wrigley Field with advertising inside isn’t really my Wrigley Field. I cringed when they put the Sears advertisements in the dugouts, and I cringe whenever I walk or drive past the “Bud Light Bleachers”. But at least those didn’t really detract from watching the game itself. My hatred of the revolving ads behind home plate has not dissipated since day one. My hatred of the outfield wall ads is no different.

 

Wrigley Field is one of the few special sports arenas, heck one of the few special structures in America that lets us experience the days of our grandfathers. It lets us experience a more pleasant time when life wasn’t overloaded with the in-your-face advertisements that we are force fed every day.

 

I miss the days when the old Torco sign was the only advertisement you could see from Wrigley. I got angry when they started to build a drab 3-story building on Sheffield that blocked the only remaining view of Wrigley’s interior from the L station platform. I pray that the work they’re doing at Sheffield and Addison is only sidewalk repair but worry that it’s going to result is some gaudy new feature that a place like Wrigley doesn’t need.

 

And I don’t see the benefit that an extra couple million dollars in the payroll is going to make by sacrificing our enjoyment of the experience of watching the Cubs at Wrigley.

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day.

 

That's going to be pretty tough to figure out.

 

They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome.

 

The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new.

 

How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this?

 

The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this.

 

They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs.

 

True, the attendance would have been down last year-the attendance would probably be up overall if they went to a new ballpark though. I'm not advocating them going to a new ballpark whatsoever, but it probably would improve average attendance numbers.

Posted
I got angry when they started to build a drab 3-story building on Sheffield that blocked the only remaining view of Wrigley’s interior from the L station platform.

 

Plus, where's Jerry going to sell peanuts from now?

Posted
This is such crap. It's like seeing somebody wearing a wristwatch in "Braveheart".

 

That Under Armour ad is practically an anachronism.

 

well, no, no it isn't. because, see, when you step into Wrigley, it's still actually 2007, not 1933. It's not a museum. The truth is, the Cubs have been extremely great about not simply tearing it down and building a luxury-suit riddled throwback park in Naperville, as that would actually keep them up with the other teams (as far as park revenue).

 

let's not act like the cubs are doing us any big favors. these ads are embarrassing. our pristine ballpark is becoming a parody of its former self, and people like you are stepping up and telling others the cubs are being nice to us.

 

as soon as the cubs figure out a way to swing it so that people won't get mad and they won't lose money, they'll start working on a new ballpark.

 

I guess you haven't noticed how just about every other team in baseball has built a new ballpark, including the recently announced plans for a new yankee stadium. The Cubs are indeed doing us a favor by only putting Under Armor logos on the doors and not building Tribune Park out in Batavia

 

As soon as they figure out how to move without losing the Lincoln Park beergarden crowd and pissing off half their fanbase , they will. These ads are just little steps towards that day.

 

That's going to be pretty tough to figure out.

 

They've already laid the groundwork with their contentious relationship with the neighborhood. The city isn't helping much either by declaring Wrigley a land mark, making any renovations more burdensome.

 

The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new.

 

How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this?

 

The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this.

 

They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs.

 

True, the attendance would have been down last year-the attendance would probably be up overall if they went to a new ballpark though. I'm not advocating them going to a new ballpark whatsoever, but it probably would improve average attendance numbers.

 

I don't think it would. The Cubs are perennially 6th in total attendance. It's not because they are good. If they built a larger stadium in the burbs and have teams as bad as they recently have had, I doubt they would match Wrigley's attendance numbers.

Posted
Why are people so caught up in the past, anyway? What is so pleasant about the past? The present is much, much better.
Posted (edited)

 

The Cubs have had a contentious relationship with the city and neighborhood for years. This is nothing new.

 

How are you going to turn Cubs fans against Wrigley? People are saying "as soon as they can figure out how to not piss off the fans." How exactly are they going to do this?

 

The fact is, if you put last year's team in some new ballpark in the burbs, the Cubs probably cut their attendance by a third. The Tribune company knows this.

 

They put an ad on the outfield doors. Let's not lose are mind about how the park is now a parody and this is the first step in moving the Cubs.

 

All it takes to move the team is a pretext. I can think of several:

 

-The increasing number of adverts going into the park forces the city to implement near draconian requirements on the franchise, making continues tenancy too difficult.

 

-New, private ownership takes over and needs to slash payroll to save costs that they can't recoup due to the lack of revenue streams.

 

-Some suburb (Arlington Heights or Waukegan, maybe?) offers massive public financing. Waukegan in particular could offer dirt cheap lakefront real estate near 2 expressways.

 

-Wrigley falls down or something.

 

EDIT: Actually, that last joke one I put in might be the most likely. Lets say a chunk of the grandstand falls and the net doesn't stop it from hitting and seriously injuring or killing someone. The city would probably shut Wrigley down, and that would make long term tenancy extremely difficult.

Edited by USSoccer

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