The Bears Offseason Thread

[Soriano12]

I'm surprised nobody is commenting on the Briggs trade rumor in here.

 

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6613558

 

Drew Rosenhaus, the agent for Bears' disgruntled Pro Bowl linebacker Lance Briggs, told FOXSports.com that the Redskins informed him Monday that they would like to swing a deal that would send Washington's first-round pick, No. 6 overall, to Chicago for the Bears' first-rounder, No. 31, and Briggs.

 

When asked about such an offer Redskins owner Dan Snyder confirmed to FOXSports.com that he in fact wanted to make the move and they were waiting to talk to Chicago. In fact, Snyder spent a couple of minutes talking to Briggs, who showed up with Rosenhaus at the meeting.

 

 

BS?

 

Is there a LB out there that we could draft that could even come close to replacing Briggs?

 

Patrick Willis can play the WILL just fine I'm sure.

 

Would you draft him 6 though? It only makes sense if the Bears can trade down and get a couple picks. Wonder if the Pats would be interested.

 

Yes. Willis is a beast. He won't get past 11-12 after his lastest workout. If Joe Thomas or Calvin Johnson fell to 6 I'd also consider that too.

[rawaction]

I

may actually hold out for more for Briggs. He's NOT a system player. I have no clue who the Bears would take at #6. It most certainly wouldn't be a LB. I would make the Skins at least give up a 3rd or 4th rounder also.

 

:shock: huh? This is would be worth the 14th overall pick.

 

Huh is right.

[ctcf]

I'll take the 6th pick thanks.

[Jon]

Briggs is scheduled to meet with Angelo in Baltimore, although CSNC didn't say when.

 

Tyrone Carter has indeed signed with the Steelers, not the Bears.

[Flames24Rulz]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=2438&line=91230&spln=1

 

NFL Network and FOXSports.com report the Redskins and Bears are discussing a trade that would send franchise player Lance Briggs and the No. 31 overall pick to Washington in exchange for the No. 6 pick.

A huge contract and a 25-spot jump in the first round. This would be an enormous price for Briggs, who some consider a "system player" in Lovie Smith's defense. It would also relegate Rocky McIntosh to the bench

 

Do it Jerry and don't think twice! :shock:

 

I may actually hold out for more for Briggs. He's NOT a system player. I have no clue who the Bears would take at #6. It most certainly wouldn't be a LB. I would make the Skins at least give up a 3rd or 4th rounder also.

 

That's as good of a deal as you're going to get.

[Soriano12]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=2438&line=91230&spln=1

 

NFL Network and FOXSports.com report the Redskins and Bears are discussing a trade that would send franchise player Lance Briggs and the No. 31 overall pick to Washington in exchange for the No. 6 pick.

A huge contract and a 25-spot jump in the first round. This would be an enormous price for Briggs, who some consider a "system player" in Lovie Smith's defense. It would also relegate Rocky McIntosh to the bench

 

Do it Jerry and don't think twice! :shock:

 

I may actually hold out for more for Briggs. He's NOT a system player. I have no clue who the Bears would take at #6. It most certainly wouldn't be a LB. I would make the Skins at least give up a 3rd or 4th rounder also.

 

That's as good of a deal as you're going to get.

 

He is right, I'm sorry but arguing that we could get more is just being a homer.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

PFT says Adam Schefter of NFL Network confirmed the Skins offer too.... !!!WOW!!... (Adam Schefter and Jay Glazer breaking a story like this... those two are money with rumors... remember Schefter reporting oakland would can Shell in like week 15, while the Raiders put out a press release saying Schefter is the antichrist(exaggeration)).

 

Briggs for swapping a 6th for a 31th is way more than I thought they could get. Well not way, but about as good as I could hope. Sorry Im half freaking out...

[Banedon]

WOW!

 

That would really mess up some mock drafts.

 

They wouldn't draft a QB would they? Brady Quinn?

 

Or if they decide they're done with Mike Brown, maybe Laron Landry??

[Handlebar McSkullet]

and what if.... they then trade their picks, move up, and they could get Calvin Johnson.... or Joe Thomas.... orr......ahshahsahhdshas :drunken:

[Banedon]

Trading up...I can't recall Angelo ever doing that.

[RichHillIsABeast]

Later Briggs! \:D/

[BigSlick]

I'll take the 6th pick thanks.

 

But who are we taking there thats so important?

 

Is Angelo spying someone a la the Devin Hester pick?

[David]

I'll take the 6th pick thanks.

 

But who are we taking there thats so important?

 

Is Angelo spying someone a la the Devin Hester pick?

 

It almost doesn't matter. Anyone you take at #6 is a big time talent. Of course, it could always be a bust...

 

I really haven't followed the draft stuff up until now, not quite as interested in it after a Super Bowl season. Either way, I'd draft the best player available, assuming he isn't a RB.

 

 

Did anyone hear Hub Arkush's comments that the Bears are looking to use Hester in a Reggie Bush role (slot, 3rd down back, decoy) next year? I know that they've confirmed they're looking at him on O for next year, but I had never seen his role defined to that extent. Hester as a 3rd down back is definitely a new one to me. He brought it up when talking about the Bears trading Jones.

[OBPMatters]

Briggs is scheduled to meet with Angelo in Baltimore, although CSNC didn't say when.

 

Tyrone Carter has indeed signed with the Steelers, not the Bears.

 

According to The Trib, the two had a meeting sans Rosenhaus this evening.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=2438&line=91230&spln=1

 

NFL Network and FOXSports.com report the Redskins and Bears are discussing a trade that would send franchise player Lance Briggs and the No. 31 overall pick to Washington in exchange for the No. 6 pick.

A huge contract and a 25-spot jump in the first round. This would be an enormous price for Briggs, who some consider a "system player" in Lovie Smith's defense. It would also relegate Rocky McIntosh to the bench

 

Do it Jerry and don't think twice! :shock:

 

I may actually hold out for more for Briggs. He's NOT a system player. I have no clue who the Bears would take at #6. It most certainly wouldn't be a LB. I would make the Skins at least give up a 3rd or 4th rounder also.

 

I agree he isn't a system player, but I also think Briggs + #31 is well worth #6.

[Soriano12]

I'll take the 6th pick thanks.

 

But who are we taking there thats so important?

 

Is Angelo spying someone a la the Devin Hester pick?

 

My guess:

 

Joe Thomas

Laron Landry

Patrick Willis

 

 

please let this happen.

[TruffleShuffle]

if the redskins do this deal, it confirms that daniel snyder is indeed a complete idiot when it comes to football

[Soriano12]

if the redskins do this deal, it confirms that daniel snyder is indeed a complete idiot when it comes to football

 

No doubt. They have a decent young WILL, Rocy McIntosh. Plus they have already invested in Fletcher. They should grab either Landry, or a Adams the DE. Isn't there next pick not to the 5th round? So they get Briggs, fall back in the draft, and push a young promising player back to the bench. No logic whatsoever.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Briggs is scheduled to meet with Angelo in Baltimore, although CSNC didn't say when.

 

Tyrone Carter has indeed signed with the Steelers, not the Bears.

 

According to The Trib, the two had a meeting sans Rosenhaus this evening.

 

And apparently the Bears offered to promise to not franchise him in 08. And he turned it down. So to recap, he was offered a 6 year 33 mil deal last year, then turned down a guaranteed 7 mil for one year, along with the promise he could hit free agency next year, and possibly get more than the 20 million guaranteed he is looking for.....

 

So we could draft Willis, Landry, Branch, Okoye.......

[cubweiser03]

Briggs is scheduled to meet with Angelo in Baltimore, although CSNC didn't say when.

 

Tyrone Carter has indeed signed with the Steelers, not the Bears.

 

According to The Trib, the two had a meeting sans Rosenhaus this evening.

 

And apparently the Bears offered to promise to not franchise him in 08. And he turned it down. So to recap, he was offered a 6 year 33 mil deal last year, then turned down a guaranteed 7 mil for one year, along with the promise he could hit free agency next year, and possibly get more than the 20 million guaranteed he is looking for.....

 

So we could draft Willis, Landry, Branch, Okoye.......

.

 

I was thinking this too. One of those guys AND Tommie? OMG. Branch is freakin huge but he's not a fat ass. If you looked at just his size you would say he doesnt fit this defense but hes not a Ted Washington, Traylor type of DT, hes really athletic and plays fast. Okoye fits the system really well, probably a little more prototypical, but since they have Tommie's game i would lean toward Branchs game as more of a compliment

 

These are the guys i want with #6 and they can still get a very good OLB at #37.

[Wilson A2000]

Briggs insisted last year's deal was for 7 years and not 6 on the radio. Who knows.

[Soul]

Briggs is scheduled to meet with Angelo in Baltimore, although CSNC didn't say when.

 

Tyrone Carter has indeed signed with the Steelers, not the Bears.

 

According to The Trib, the two had a meeting sans Rosenhaus this evening.

 

And apparently the Bears offered to promise to not franchise him in 08. And he turned it down. So to recap, he was offered a 6 year 33 mil deal last year, then turned down a guaranteed 7 mil for one year, along with the promise he could hit free agency next year, and possibly get more than the 20 million guaranteed he is looking for.....

 

So we could draft Willis, Landry, Branch, Okoye.......

 

We could draft anyone @ 6. It's immaterial. The point is, Briggs is not worth nearly the 6th pick overall. If Snyder does this, he is confirmed as the biggest idiot in football.

[goonys evil twin]

We could draft anyone @ 6. It's immaterial. The point is, Briggs is not worth nearly the 6th pick overall. If Snyder does this, he is confirmed as the biggest idiot in football.

 

He wouldn't be trading the 6th pick overall for Briggs. He'd be trading that for Briggs and the 31st. He'd be trading one potential all pro player for an all pro player and a guy who is a little less likely to be all pro.

 

My only problem with such a trade from a Bears perspective is, with 31 and 37, we know they already need O line help, secondary help, and offensive playmaker help.

 

Now, trade Briggs with the 31 for that 6th, and all of a sudden you add one more need, without adding anymore draft picks. The guys who are obvious replacements for Briggs aren't worth anywhere near being a 6 pick, so if you take them, then you are essentially removing much of the value of that 6th pick in the first place. Angelo would almost have to trade down, to try and get 2 later 1st round picks.

 

If you are giving up Briggs and your 1st, I think you have to end up with at least 2 picks when all is said and done. Because all of a sudden you have multiple needs and serious depth issues.

[goonys evil twin]

These are the guys i want with #6 and they can still get a very good OLB at #37.

 

They wouldn't get anybody that could come close to Briggs' production, and they'd still be desperate for O lineman, not to mention RB depth and secondary help.

 

If you go DT with the 6 and OLB with the 37, then I think you have to go O line with your 3rd, and your already at the 94th pick by then. Your 4th round pick is 130, and by then your pickings will be slim for Benson's running mate or WR help, and you haven't even addressed the secondary.

[Soul]

We could draft anyone @ 6. It's immaterial. The point is, Briggs is not worth nearly the 6th pick overall. If Snyder does this, he is confirmed as the biggest idiot in football.

 

He wouldn't be trading the 6th pick overall for Briggs. He'd be trading that for Briggs and the 31st. He'd be trading one potential all pro player for an all pro player and a guy who is a little less likely to be all pro.

 

My only problem with such a trade from a Bears perspective is, with 31 and 37, we know they already need O line help, secondary help, and offensive playmaker help.

 

Now, trade Briggs with the 31 for that 6th, and all of a sudden you add one more need, without adding anymore draft picks. The guys who are obvious replacements for Briggs aren't worth anywhere near being a 6 pick, so if you take them, then you are essentially removing much of the value of that 6th pick in the first place. Angelo would almost have to trade down, to try and get 2 later 1st round picks.

 

If you are giving up Briggs and your 1st, I think you have to end up with at least 2 picks when all is said and done. Because all of a sudden you have multiple needs and serious depth issues.

 

The draft point upgrade from 31 to 6 is 1,000. It's massive. You may not be adding another pick, but that's not how it should be viewed because a pick can be turned into more picks.

 

It's about the value gained. This is the exact same reason why most people didn't understand what we gained in the TJ trade.