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McShay's previous projection of the Bears picking Olsen was made before the Super Bowl. His most recent projection had the Bears picking up Paul Poluszny from PSU, but that seemed to be contingent on the Bears not re-signing Briggs.

 

best case scenario, briggs signs a huge deal with another team, we pick posluszny and get the picks.

 

i love briggs and think he should be re-signed, but a chance to replace him with a talent like pos while getting a couple first rounders would be pretty sweet.

 

I don't see any way a team would be willing to part with two first rounders for Briggs (I know the Bears could agree to receive less, but I don't see that happening either).

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McShay's previous projection of the Bears picking Olsen was made before the Super Bowl. His most recent projection had the Bears picking up Paul Poluszny from PSU, but that seemed to be contingent on the Bears not re-signing Briggs.

 

best case scenario, briggs signs a huge deal with another team, we pick posluszny and get the picks.

 

i love briggs and think he should be re-signed, but a chance to replace him with a talent like pos while getting a couple first rounders would be pretty sweet.

 

I really want a linebacker with torn up knees that had to switch positions and never looke the same. Oh wait.

 

No thanks on Poszlusny.

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McShay's previous projection of the Bears picking Olsen was made before the Super Bowl. His most recent projection had the Bears picking up Paul Poluszny from PSU, but that seemed to be contingent on the Bears not re-signing Briggs.

 

best case scenario, briggs signs a huge deal with another team, we pick posluszny and get the picks.

 

i love briggs and think he should be re-signed, but a chance to replace him with a talent like pos while getting a couple first rounders would be pretty sweet.

 

I really want a linebacker with torn up knees that had to switch positions and never looke the same. Oh wait.

 

No thanks on Poszlusny.

 

i'll take him and 2 first rounders. that would be a better deal than just briggs, imo.

 

but by franchising briggs, i think that the only way the bears lose on the deal is if he decides to hold out.

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According to ESPN.com, the Chargers have selected Norv Turner, so Rivera isn't headed to SD.

 

Marty Shottenheimer -> Norv Turner is a downgrade.

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According to ESPN.com, the Chargers have selected Norv Turner, so Rivera isn't headed to SD.

 

Marty Shottenheimer -> Norv Turner is a downgrade.

 

He (SD GM Smith?) just wants a yes man.

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According to ESPN.com, the Chargers have selected Norv Turner, so Rivera isn't headed to SD.

 

Marty Shottenheimer -> Norv Turner is a downgrade.

 

He (SD GM Smith?) just wants a yes man.

 

One of ESPN.com's "burning questions" this week was "Are the Chargers in danger of alienating Ladanian Tomlinson?" The ESPN talking heads all said yes...

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According to ESPN.com, the Chargers have selected Norv Turner, so Rivera isn't headed to SD.

 

Marty Shottenheimer -> Norv Turner is a downgrade.

 

He (SD GM Smith?) just wants a yes man.

 

One of ESPN.com's "burning questions" this week was "Are the Chargers in danger of alienating Ladanian Tomlinson?" The ESPN talking heads all said yes...

 

So that means they aren't? :D

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Odd. I have heard that Rivera isn't the biggest fan of the Cover-2 so maybe that had something to do with it.

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Have the Chargers hired anyone for defense yet? If not maybe Rivera is going there to help Turner.

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Have the Chargers hired anyone for defense yet? If not maybe Rivera is going there to help Turner.

 

From that same article:

 

As for a defensive coordinator opening, there's only one open right now and that is Ted Cottrell's for the taking in San Diego. Still, now that Rivera is officially free another team may decide to make a run at a man who helped guide a unit to this year's prized game.
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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Odd. I have heard that Rivera isn't the biggest fan of the Cover-2 so maybe that had something to do with it.

 

It's still fishy. Maybe he's heading to Dallas for the D Coordinator job there after all?

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Have the Chargers hired anyone for defense yet? If not maybe Rivera is going there to help Turner.

 

Rivera's run a standard 4-3 defense throughout his coaching career. I'm not sure how big of a shift going to a 3-4 is for a defensive coordinator, or if Turner will keep a 3-4, but it may require a change in thinking on Turner's part.

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Have the Chargers hired anyone for defense yet? If not maybe Rivera is going there to help Turner.

 

Rivera's run a standard 4-3 defense throughout his coaching career. I'm not sure how big of a shift going to a 3-4 is for a defensive coordinator, or if Turner will keep a 3-4, but it may require a change in thinking on Turner's part.

 

But wasn't that Lovie's defense? If Rivera wasn't a cover 2 fan maybe he wasn't really sold on a 4 man front either?

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Have the Chargers hired anyone for defense yet? If not maybe Rivera is going there to help Turner.

 

Rivera's run a standard 4-3 defense throughout his coaching career. I'm not sure how big of a shift going to a 3-4 is for a defensive coordinator, or if Turner will keep a 3-4, but it may require a change in thinking on Turner's part.

 

Yeah, I would see it more likely that Rivera would be going to Dallas as the D-coordinator-they wouldn't be that bad switching, but SD would lose much of its defensive effectiveness if they switched defenses.

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I can't say I saw that coming.

 

Who are the other possible candidates out there right now? I know Singletary's name has been tossed around, but I don't see that move being made.

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But wasn't that Lovie's defense? If Rivera wasn't a cover 2 fan maybe he wasn't really sold on a 4 man front either?

 

Apparently Ron's prepared to make a switch.

 

The first is perception. Rivera is an established master of schemes based on the 4-3 alignment and the Chargers' defense has been built on personnel specifically selected for the 3-4.

 

For all the focus on Cover-2 that Rivera and coach Lovie Smith brought to the Super Bowl against Tony Dungy and his version of the same system, perception may be unfairly type-casting Rivera and ignoring his work as linebackers coach in the diverse schemes of Eagles coordinator Jim Johnson.

 

"I don't think [the 3-4 system] is nearly as different as people make it out to be," said Rivera, who lost out in the Cowboys interview process to Wade Phillips, who ran the Chargers' 3-4 for the last three seasons. "In the defense we run, for instance, we have what we call an 'under' defense, with a linebacker over a tight end. All you have to do [in the 3-4] is designate who the rush guy is going to be."

 

This was in an article related to Rivera's chances as becoming head coach of the Chargers, but the point still applies if he goes to SD as defensive coordinator.

 

Link

 

And apparently now it doesn't matter that Rivera has never run a 3-4, because the Chargers hired Ted Cotrell as defensive coordinator.

 

Longtime league assistant coach Ted Cottrell, whose experience with the 3-4 defense is extensive, has been hired as defensive coordinator for the Chargers.

 

Link

 

My posts are becoming outdated in record time.

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Interesting news from Foxsports.com

 

FOXSports.com has learned that Chicago has decided to not renew the contract of defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. Team sources say that Smith and Rivera met recently and agreed to allow Rivera to pursue other opportunities. The sources also contend that Smith will likely end up promoting Bob Babich from linebackers coach to defensive coordinator.

 

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6485778

 

 

So I guess Rivera wasn't that essential to the Bears success..

 

Have the Chargers hired anyone for defense yet? If not maybe Rivera is going there to help Turner.

 

Rivera's run a standard 4-3 defense throughout his coaching career. I'm not sure how big of a shift going to a 3-4 is for a defensive coordinator, or if Turner will keep a 3-4, but it may require a change in thinking on Turner's part.

 

Yeah, I would see it more likely that Rivera would be going to Dallas as the D-coordinator-they wouldn't be that bad switching, but SD would lose much of its defensive effectiveness if they switched defenses.

 

He won't be coming to Dallas, we will most likely be promoting DB coach Todd Bowles to D-Coordinator. It won't matter much though, because Phillips has already stated he'll be running the defense.

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I can't say I saw that coming.

 

Who are the other possible candidates out there right now? I know Singletary's name has been tossed around, but I don't see that move being made.

 

You talking about the Bears? If so, they'll likely hire from within. The LB coach Babbich (sp?) is the leading cand.

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Bob Babich is the linebackers coach and will likely be promoted to DC. Not a shocker, but still a little surprising that the Bears told Chico to take a walk. Stays in line with their M.O. to not overpay.

 

(Hearsay disclosure) From what it sounds, Babich is Lovie's guy anyway and almost left to go to Buffalo with Jauron but stuck around knowing their was a good chance he could be elevated to DC in the near future. Chico wanted a more blitz-oriented D. He appears to have only the Chargers' DC position available to him or else face sitting out a year or going to coach at a university.

 

Aaaaaaaaaaand ... speculate!

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I can't say I saw that coming.

 

Who are the other possible candidates out there right now? I know Singletary's name has been tossed around, but I don't see that move being made.

 

You talking about the Bears? If so, they'll likely hire from within. The LB coach Babbich (sp?) is the leading cand.

Yeah, but I'm still curious if there are any other candidates for consideration out there that are either obvious or have already been brought up.

 

Also from that article:

 

In other news Monday, the Bears hired Luke Butkus as the team’s assistant offensive line coach.

 

Butkus, the nephew of Bears legend Dick Butkus, was signed by Chicago as an undrafted free agent out of the University of Illinois in 2002, went to training camp with the Bears and was waived on Sept. 1, 2002.

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I can't say I saw that coming.

 

Who are the other possible candidates out there right now? I know Singletary's name has been tossed around, but I don't see that move being made.

 

You talking about the Bears? If so, they'll likely hire from within. The LB coach Babbich (sp?) is the leading cand.

 

Gotta be Babich, he's Lovie's guy as BRASKY'S SCOTCH pointed out.

 

Bit surprised how it played out with Chico but I figured he'd be gone sooner or later.

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