Samardzija forgoes football: Fulltime Cub

[UK1679666180]

Zambrano, Hill, Prior (if healthy) or Marquis , Lilly, competition for open spot with Marquis in '08 with Gallagher. If Gallagher makes the team Marquis becomes tradeable.

He's got to pitch decently first. :(

 

To be tradeable, unfort. so does Marquis. For the Cubs' sake, those mech. adjustments combined with a good relationship with Rothschild, Piniella, and Barrett/Blanco has to work.

[Roast]

WOW :shock: watching the press conference. Jeff got a NTC. I've never heard of a draft pick getting a NTC.

 

Jeez, they hand those things out like candy these days.

[David]

WOW :shock: watching the press conference. Jeff got a NTC. I've never heard of a draft pick getting a NTC.

 

Jeez, they hand those things out like candy these days.

 

Meh. It's not like we have much to lose if we can't trade him. If he's good, we won't want to trade him. If he struggles, we're just paying him a couple mil/year. I've seen the Cubs waste much more money than that.

 

It's sort of like Prior now, actually. He's not making much, and with the uncertainty, he's not worth all that much, yet some people want to get rid of him at all costs, for whatever reason. Makes no sense to me.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

WOW :shock: watching the press conference. Jeff got a NTC. I've never heard of a draft pick getting a NTC.

 

Jeez, they hand those things out like candy these days.

 

Meh. It's not like we have much to lose if we can't trade him. If he's good, we won't want to trade him. If he struggles, we're just paying him a couple mil/year. I've seen the Cubs waste much more money than that.

 

It's sort of like Prior now, actually. He's not making much, and with the uncertainty, he's not worth all that much, yet some people want to get rid of him at all costs, for whatever reason. Makes no sense to me.

 

Exactly. It seems like he wants certainty that he'll close to Valpo as one of the conditions for dropping football. If he's not good, his trade value won't be that high and another minor leaguer/young pitcher can be subbed for him. If he turns into a top prospect, he can help out and the Cub would want to keep hold of him (if they need to trade a big-name prospect for a veteran, there should be other prospects out there).

[CubsWin]

Zambrano, Hill, Prior (if healthy) or Marquis , Lilly, competition for open spot with Marquis in '08 with Gallagher. If Gallagher makes the team Marquis becomes tradeable.

He's got to pitch decently first. :(

 

To be tradeable, unfort. so does Marquis. For the Cubs' sake, those mech. adjustments combined with a good relationship with Rothschild, Piniella, and Barrett/Blanco has to work.

I was referring to Marquis becoming tradeable. That's why I bolded what I did.

 

If Marquis fails, he won't have much, if any, trade value. But the Cubs should have several other options for his spot in the rotation. Angel Guzman and Wade Miller top the list, IMO, with Sean Marshall not far behind. Essentially, Marquis is a rather expensive, veteran insurance policy.

 

Here's hoping he can regain his previous form with the help of Rothschild and pitch well this season and that one of the young arms (Guzman, Marshall, Gallagher, Veal, Samardzija, Marmol, etc.) can prove they are ready to step in for the '08 season. The Cubs could then trade him for something decent, I hope.

[Mark Priors Calves]

how could the cubs possibly trade marquis? his 9 million dollar salary in three years isn't likely to keep many teams interested.

[Guancous]

how could the cubs possibly trade marquis? his 9 million dollar salary in three years isn't likely to keep many teams interested.

 

A league average, Ted Lilly like season will interest some teams around the trading deadline. I have a feeling that Marquis's name will be mentioned anytime a starter gets hurt on a playoff caliber team. Let's hope that the value they get exceeds his contract.

[Soul]

Samardzija's $10 million contract breaks down as follows:

 

* Bonus: $2.5 million.

* 2007 salary: $300,000 ($380,000 if he reaches the majors).

* 2008 salary: $600,000 ($850,000 if he reaches the majors).

* 2009 salary: $1.3 million.

* 2010 salary: $2.5 million.

* 2011 salary: $2.8 million.

* 2012 club option: $3.0 million (he can opt out if arbitration-eligible).

* 2013 club option: $3.5 million (he can opt out if arbitration-eligible).

 

Sounds good to me. By the time he breaks the million dollar barrier, he could very well be in the majors and pitching. And if he is, he's a cheap option.

 

Someone on Comcast this morning said Samardzija's fastball occasionally hits 99. I'll take that for 2mil/yr.

 

Well if he makes it to the majors in 09 then we overpay his pre-arbi years by about 4M, but obviously we make that up in only paying him a 2.5M signing bonus. Overall its a fair contract if he makes it to the majors in 09 or 10.

 

Gotta have faith. And a little good coaching won't hurt either. I'd drive to Iowa to see him pitch :) If he's sent there and I go, I'll deliver a report to the best of my admittedly limited scouting ability. 8-)

[nilodnayr]

how could the cubs possibly trade marquis? his 9 million dollar salary in three years isn't likely to keep many teams interested.

 

A league average, Ted Lilly like season will interest some teams around the trading deadline. I have a feeling that Marquis's name will be mentioned anytime a starter gets hurt on a playoff caliber team. Let's hope that the value they get exceeds his contract.

 

A) We don't know where the market is going to go.

B) We could eat some of the contract

C) He could actually pitch well

D) We could give him away for nothing in return

 

...no one is untradeable

[nilodnayr]

 

Gotta have faith. And a little good coaching won't hurt either. I'd drive to Iowa to see him pitch :) If he's sent there and I go, I'll deliver a report to the best of my admittedly limited scouting ability. 8-)

 

Hopefully if everything goes well he will be skipping Iowa :)

 

I know he said he wants to pitch in the majors in 08, but hes so raw that 09 may even be a little optimistic.

[Guest]

how could the cubs possibly trade marquis? his 9 million dollar salary in three years isn't likely to keep many teams interested.

 

A league average, Ted Lilly like season will interest some teams around the trading deadline. I have a feeling that Marquis's name will be mentioned anytime a starter gets hurt on a playoff caliber team. Let's hope that the value they get exceeds his contract.

 

A) We don't know where the market is going to go.

B) We could eat some of the contract

C) He could actually pitch well

D) We could give him away for nothing in return

 

...no one is untradeable

Ask Houston how they felt about Bags last year.

[nilodnayr]

how could the cubs possibly trade marquis? his 9 million dollar salary in three years isn't likely to keep many teams interested.

 

A league average, Ted Lilly like season will interest some teams around the trading deadline. I have a feeling that Marquis's name will be mentioned anytime a starter gets hurt on a playoff caliber team. Let's hope that the value they get exceeds his contract.

 

A) We don't know where the market is going to go.

B) We could eat some of the contract

C) He could actually pitch well

D) We could give him away for nothing in return

 

...no one is untradeable

Ask Houston how they felt about Bags last year.

 

Did they actually even try?

 

Ok, I will amend my statement to say that "no one who can actually play is untradeable"