BCS Bowl Thread

[B]

Why do people root for their conference? Someone explain this to me.

 

Fans of teams that aren't in the big 10 get tired of hearing about how OSU/Michigan should rematch for the championship. Everyone said Florida had no chance. Pretty much the big 10 has 2 good teams (sometimes 3). They play about 2 hard games a year and the media acts like they are on a different level than other teams. In the SEC you play a tough game nearly every week. So the fans of an SEC team enjoy it when one of the SEC teams hands a big 10 team their butt. That's the best explanation I can give.

 

I might agree with that point this year but not usually. Usually, the Big 10 is as deep as the SEC-this year, that wasn't the case at all. Still though, the Big 10 did go 2-1 against the SEC, which doesn't prove the Big 10 was better (their 0-4 record in other bowls kind of shows that they weren't) but that the difference wasn't as big as most people would think it is.

 

A friend (who is a big SEC fan and a proud supporter of the SEC's superiority) and I did a comparison of the SEC and Big 10 before this season started. Take the Big 10 schools and the SEC schools and rank them from top to bottom based on their performances over the last 10 years, and throw out the SEC school that's either 6th or 7th (throw out one of the middle ones to equalize the difference of 1 school between the 2 conferences). Then, compare the accomplishments over those 10 years between each of the matchups. I think you'll find that the two conferences have been virtually identical over that time period.

 

You can throw them out when doing a comparison, but when the real games happen you still have to play them.

[Chocolate Milk]

Why do people root for their conference? Someone explain this to me.

 

Fans of teams that aren't in the big 10 get tired of hearing about how OSU/Michigan should rematch for the championship. Everyone said Florida had no chance. Pretty much the big 10 has 2 good teams (sometimes 3). They play about 2 hard games a year and the media acts like they are on a different level than other teams. In the SEC you play a tough game nearly every week. So the fans of an SEC team enjoy it when one of the SEC teams hands a big 10 team their butt. That's the best explanation I can give.

 

What's with the persecution complex? Plenty of people pimp the SEC. I hear all the time that the SEC has "speed" that the other conferences don't have. Not everyone wanted Michigan to get a rematch. They didn't get one after all.

[CubColtPacer]

Why do people root for their conference? Someone explain this to me.

 

Fans of teams that aren't in the big 10 get tired of hearing about how OSU/Michigan should rematch for the championship. Everyone said Florida had no chance. Pretty much the big 10 has 2 good teams (sometimes 3). They play about 2 hard games a year and the media acts like they are on a different level than other teams. In the SEC you play a tough game nearly every week. So the fans of an SEC team enjoy it when one of the SEC teams hands a big 10 team their butt. That's the best explanation I can give.

 

I might agree with that point this year but not usually. Usually, the Big 10 is as deep as the SEC-this year, that wasn't the case at all. Still though, the Big 10 did go 2-1 against the SEC, which doesn't prove the Big 10 was better (their 0-4 record in other bowls kind of shows that they weren't) but that the difference wasn't as big as most people would think it is.

 

A friend (who is a big SEC fan and a proud supporter of the SEC's superiority) and I did a comparison of the SEC and Big 10 before this season started. Take the Big 10 schools and the SEC schools and rank them from top to bottom based on their performances over the last 10 years, and throw out the SEC school that's either 6th or 7th (throw out one of the middle ones to equalize the difference of 1 school between the 2 conferences). Then, compare the accomplishments over those 10 years between each of the matchups. I think you'll find that the two conferences have been virtually identical over that time period.

 

You can throw them out when doing a comparison, but when the real games happen you still have to play them.

 

Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't. SEC teams miss 3 of their conference teams every year while Big 10 teams only miss 2 of them. The fairest thing to do is to take the team out that is the most average. Or are you saying that the SEC has a fundamental advantage by having the extra team?

[swordsman]

I had no dog in the fight last night. I went to USC and my heart belongs to Northwestern.

 

I tuned in because my daughters wanted to watch football. I kept watching/listening because I liked seeing a team that was so highly thought of get wanked all over the field. That was priceless.

 

I still don't care that the Gators won or that the Buckeyes lost or about any of the individual stories that played out. But I liked the story of the game.

[B]

Why do people root for their conference? Someone explain this to me.

 

Fans of teams that aren't in the big 10 get tired of hearing about how OSU/Michigan should rematch for the championship. Everyone said Florida had no chance. Pretty much the big 10 has 2 good teams (sometimes 3). They play about 2 hard games a year and the media acts like they are on a different level than other teams. In the SEC you play a tough game nearly every week. So the fans of an SEC team enjoy it when one of the SEC teams hands a big 10 team their butt. That's the best explanation I can give.

 

What's with the persecution complex? Plenty of people pimp the SEC. I hear all the time that the SEC has "speed" that the other conferences don't have. Not everyone wanted Michigan to get a rematch. They didn't get one after all.

 

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I was just explaining why people root for a conference. I personally didn't care who won the game.

[Chocolate Milk]

Why do people root for their conference? Someone explain this to me.

 

Fans of teams that aren't in the big 10 get tired of hearing about how OSU/Michigan should rematch for the championship. Everyone said Florida had no chance. Pretty much the big 10 has 2 good teams (sometimes 3). They play about 2 hard games a year and the media acts like they are on a different level than other teams. In the SEC you play a tough game nearly every week. So the fans of an SEC team enjoy it when one of the SEC teams hands a big 10 team their butt. That's the best explanation I can give.

 

What's with the persecution complex? Plenty of people pimp the SEC. I hear all the time that the SEC has "speed" that the other conferences don't have. Not everyone wanted Michigan to get a rematch. They didn't get one after all.

 

I wasn't trying to start an argument. I was just explaining why people root for a conference. I personally didn't care who won the game.

 

I'm with you, buddy.

[UMFan83]

Whats with the Big 10 only has 2 good teams comment?

 

BCS Bowl Appearences:

 

Big 10:

Ohio State - 5

Michigan - 4

Wisconsin - 2

Illinois - 1

Iowa - 1

Penn State - 1

Purdue - 1

 

SEC:

Florida - 4

LSU - 3

Georgia - 2

Tennessee - 2

Alabama - 1

Auburn - 1

 

The Big 10 has actually had more teams in the BCS bowls then the SEC and almost every year we have an at large team. Of course you can argue that the Big 10 travels well and brings in money, which is of course true, but my point stands.

[cubweiser03]

Im shocked at how much Tressel got outcoached last night. Tressel is a helluva coach and i never could of imagined him getting outcoached of this magnitude. I have a newfound respect for Urban Meyer, he's a damn good coach. Florida, you have a great coach and last night was validation in my eyes you have one.

 

Oh and Ted Ginn, Jr. hurt his ankle on the TD celebration in case you hadnt heard. Some dude rolled up on his foot. Nicely done.

[goonys evil twin]

Im shocked at how much Tressel got outcoached last night. Tressel is a helluva coach and i never could of imagined him getting outcoached of this magnitude. I have a newfound respect for Urban Meyer, he's a damn good coach. Florida, you have a great coach and last night was validation in my eyes you have one.

 

Oh and Ted Ginn, Jr. hurt his ankle on the TD celebration in case you hadnt heard. Some dude rolled up on his foot. Nicely done.

 

I didn't watch much of the game, but I did see that opening return, and I thought I saw him slip right as he was about to be pounced on.

[AI]

Whats with the Big 10 only has 2 good teams comment?

 

BCS Bowl Appearences:

 

Big 10:

Ohio State - 5

Michigan - 4

Wisconsin - 2

Illinois - 1

Iowa - 1

Penn State - 1

Purdue - 1

 

SEC:

Florida - 4

LSU - 3

Georgia - 2

Tennessee - 2

Alabama - 1

Auburn - 1

 

The Big 10 has actually had more teams in the BCS bowls then the SEC and almost every year we have an at large team. Of course you can argue that the Big 10 travels well and brings in money, which is of course true, but my point stands.

 

That also has to do with the fact that the SEC eats its young.

[Chris]

That also has to do with the fact that the SEC eats its young.

 

That's putting it lightly

[Balsa]

You don't really find that in the Big Ten.

 

And I'm glad.

Me too. I was really glad to see OSU and Michigan crushed. Nothing like seeing those fans in deep sorrow to warm my heart.

[Derwood]

You don't really find that in the Big Ten.

 

And I'm glad.

Me too. I was really glad to see OSU and Michigan crushed. Nothing like seeing those fans in deep sorrow to warm my heart.

 

In general, I like to see the Big 10 "represent" in the bowls, but I took deep pleasure in seeing Michigan and O$U crushed.

[cubweiser03]

You don't really find that in the Big Ten.

 

And I'm glad.

Me too. I was really glad to see OSU and Michigan crushed. Nothing like seeing those fans in deep sorrow to warm my heart.

 

In general, I like to see the Big 10 "represent" in the bowls, but I took deep pleasure in seeing Michigan and O$U crushed.

 

I too like it when the B10 'represents'. Except for OSU football. I like too see the Big Ten do well, it serves the purpose of making the teams more competitive and thus entertaining. I understand there are many people on this board and elsewhere who are fans of a B10 team that do not root for OSU and UM, I don't expect repricocity in return for me wishing their team success. I like it when the season is more about winning just 1 game. I wish success on other Big Ten teams, just not too much.

 

Im happy to hear Illini doing so well recruiting last year and especially this year. That game has become a dog. They aren't taking UM's recruits so i dont have a problem. Hell they are taking OSU and ND's, hurray!

[Prior4CyYoung]

I do like rooting for the Big Ten when it comes to bowl season with the exception of Ohio State. Its the conference I follow the most and I like a lot of teams in there and hope they do well. Michigan I am kinda meh on. If they win ok fine whatever but if they lose I wont lose any sleep over that either. But the Penn State Purdue Illinois of the world if they can ever get back I hope they win there bowl games.

[Careless]

Whats with the Big 10 only has 2 good teams comment?

 

BCS Bowl Appearences:

 

Big 10:

Ohio State - 5

Michigan - 4

Wisconsin - 2

Illinois - 1

Iowa - 1

Penn State - 1

Purdue - 1

 

SEC:

Florida - 4

LSU - 3

Georgia - 2

Tennessee - 2

Alabama - 1

Auburn - 1

 

The Big 10 has actually had more teams in the BCS bowls then the SEC and almost every year we have an at large team. Of course you can argue that the Big 10 travels well and brings in money, which is of course true, but my point stands.

He meant 2 per year

[Mephistopheles]

i dont about you guys, but i think a 2 loss auburn team deserves to be top 6 or so. Definitely ahead of Michigan, Boise, and probably Louisville. They lost to two top 25 teams (Arkansas and Georgia) and beat two top 5 teams (LSU and UF)

 

USC lost to a top twenty five team, an unranked team and beat a pretty overrated Michigan team. If you look at the wins and losses Auburn is damn close if not ahead of USC.

[CubColtPacer]

i dont about you guys, but i think a 2 loss auburn team deserves to be top 6 or so. Definitely ahead of Michigan, Boise, and probably Louisville. They lost to two top 25 teams (Arkansas and Georgia) and beat two top 5 teams (LSU and UF)

 

USC lost to a top twenty five team, an unranked team and beat a pretty overrated Michigan team. If you look at the wins and losses Auburn is damn close if not ahead of USC.

 

All of that is of course true-at the same time, Auburn got drilled in both of their losses, while USC barely lost both of their games. Auburn didn't have another significant win that I can think of besides LSU, UF, and Nebraska in the bowl game. USC had Arkansas, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Michigan, and Cal.

 

I think USC's good wins outweigh Auburn's great wins, and I think the losses are pretty similar (USC lost to worse teams, but that is counterbalanced by Auburn not being competitive in either of their 2 losses).

 

Also-one more thing-Auburn had 4 to 5 absolutely terrible teams on their schedule. USC had only 1 or 2. That has to count for something.

[Jon]

A bit off topic, but it sounds like after just one year, the NCAA will not allow graduate transfer students to play football or basketball without sitting out a year.

[Andy]

A bit off topic, but it sounds like after just one year, the NCAA will not allow graduate transfer students to play football or basketball without sitting out a year.

Good. That rule was going to cause all sorts of problems.

[SouthSideRyan]

i dont about you guys, but i think a 2 loss auburn team deserves to be top 6 or so. Definitely ahead of Michigan, Boise, and probably Louisville. They lost to two top 25 teams (Arkansas and Georgia) and beat two top 5 teams (LSU and UF)

 

USC lost to a top twenty five team, an unranked team and beat a pretty overrated Michigan team. If you look at the wins and losses Auburn is damn close if not ahead of USC.

 

How about USC killing Arkansas and Auburn losing to them?

[Mephistopheles]

Well then you have to put Boise ahead of USC. Wins aren't and will never be transitive.

[SouthSideRyan]

Well then you have to put Boise ahead of USC. Wins aren't and will never be transitive.

 

I would put Boise ahead of USC. My main point is you said when looking at the wins and losses that Auburn should be ahead, and then you conveniently mentioned Auburn's good wins and left out USC's good wins, mentioning only Michigan, and making sure to add in the overrated part.(Funny, since you touted Georgia earlier in your post)

[Mephistopheles]

Nah I just meant that Auburn is at least similar to USC in that respect and a lot better than Michigan those ways.