Neal Cotts for David Aardsma

[C.C.]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

Though he does defy logic on a continuous basis...

 

And are we running a 7 man pen again this year!?

 

Cotts

Eyre (as of now, I'm almost certain he's gone)

Ohman

Wuertz

Howry

Wood

Dempster

 

I'll be happy to get rid of Eyre and his salary.

[rjchapma]

I espically like this move if we deal either Eyre or Ohman along with hopefully Jaque and sign Soriano.

[goonys evil twin]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

It doesn't make sense to me to trade for Cotts to be your LH set-up man. That's what I'm saying. If another team has a woody for Cotts, then it makes sense to trade 2 pitchers for him. I just don't see the point in acquiring Cotts as the guy you will fall back on once dealing Eyre (which I'm in favor of).

[C.C.]

I like that move Cotts is young and has shown promise just had a bad year last year.

I just looked up his stats and his only good year was in 2005. His other seasons were terrible, so who knows.

 

Those other years wasn't he a starter? The past two years he's only been bad for half a season.

[Danny82]

Can somebody tell me anything about Cotts's stuff?

 

A starter his whole career, Cotts struggled last year to set up his changeup, his best pitch. His fastball doesn't get much above 90 and his deceptive motion was not a big issue for lefthanded batters, who hit him surprisingly hard. Cotts was up with too many pitches last season, allowing more homers than he had in his minor-league career. He needs to work on his move to first base as he was easy to run on a year ago.

I thought I always heard about him having a plus curve ball when he was coming up.

[rjchapma]

yeah he was actually not a terrible starter either, but Manual used him the wrong way and hes now turned to being a setup man.

[SauerFan]

Can somebody tell me anything about Cotts's stuff?

 

From TSN.ca: "Has a deceptive delivery that makes his 90-mph fastball look hotter. He backs that up with a strong change-up and solid curve. Has learned to keep the ball low and in the park.

Flaws His command can get him into trouble at times and he doesn't have one truly dominant pitch."

 

Don't know about "in the park." 12 HR in 54 innings last year.

[Mark_R]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

It doesn't make sense to me to trade for Cotts to be your LH set-up man. That's what I'm saying. If another team has a woody for Cotts, then it makes sense to trade 2 pitchers for him. I just don't see the point in acquiring Cotts as the guy you will fall back on once dealing Eyre (which I'm in favor of).

 

I don't think he'll be a LH set up man. As is (assuming Eyre is dealt), your top three arms in the pen will all be RH. I think Cotts will be used to get out tough lefties along with Ohman. I don't know if there's a role on this team for a LH set up man given how much the three righties are making.

[goonys evil twin]

I like that move Cotts is young and has shown promise just had a bad year last year.

I just looked up his stats and his only good year was in 2005. His other seasons were terrible, so who knows.

 

Those other years wasn't he a starter? The past two years he's only been bad for half a season.

 

He was a reliever in 2004, 2005 and 2006. I'm guessing he was primarily a starter before that.

[goonys evil twin]

yeah he was actually not a terrible starter either, but Manual used him the wrong way and hes now turned to being a setup man.

 

How was he used the wrong way? He started 4 games with Manuel. He was in the minors the rest of the year.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The White Sox also receive LHP Carlos Vazquez.

 

Well at least we get a 40 man spot out of it.

 

....or maybe not. When did Vazquez get taken off the 40?

 

A couple of years ago.

[Bull]

link? source?

 

now on rotoworld

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Only a Cub fan could say that Aardsma has loads of potential, while in the same post saying that Cotts is nothing special.

 

The comedy is outstanding.

 

He's first in the Baseball Almanac, you can't buy that kind of potential, dude.

 

I do insist however that Cotts is nothing special. Not worth two prospects IMO. The Sox couldn't wait to dump him, that's a pretty damning signal.

 

Vasquez really isn't a prospect. More like an afterthought.

[YearofDaCubs]

We also gave up Carlos Vazquez for Cotts so it's not just Aardsma.

[goonys evil twin]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

It doesn't make sense to me to trade for Cotts to be your LH set-up man. That's what I'm saying. If another team has a woody for Cotts, then it makes sense to trade 2 pitchers for him. I just don't see the point in acquiring Cotts as the guy you will fall back on once dealing Eyre (which I'm in favor of).

 

I don't think he'll be a LH set up man. As is (assuming Eyre is dealt), your top three arms in the pen will all be RH. I think Cotts will be used to get out tough lefties along with Ohman. I don't know if there's a role on this team for a LH set up man given how much the three righties are making.

 

He couldn't get out lefties last year to save his life, and they rocked him in 2004 as well. I think he might be a candidate for a starting job over a loogy.

[Andy]

We also gave up Carlos Vazquez for Cotts so it's not just Aardsma.

Carlos Vazquez is essentially a nonentity.

 

(Watch him go Dontrelle on us now)

[USSoccer]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

It doesn't make sense to me to trade for Cotts to be your LH set-up man. That's what I'm saying. If another team has a woody for Cotts, then it makes sense to trade 2 pitchers for him. I just don't see the point in acquiring Cotts as the guy you will fall back on once dealing Eyre (which I'm in favor of).

 

What if Ohman becomes the LH set up man and Cotts is the LOOGY?

[goonys evil twin]

We also gave up Carlos Vazquez for Cotts so it's not just Aardsma.

 

I don't really care about giving up either guy. I'm all for thinning the herd of the so-so arms, I just don't see the point in getting back another so-so arm when doing it.

[goonys evil twin]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

It doesn't make sense to me to trade for Cotts to be your LH set-up man. That's what I'm saying. If another team has a woody for Cotts, then it makes sense to trade 2 pitchers for him. I just don't see the point in acquiring Cotts as the guy you will fall back on once dealing Eyre (which I'm in favor of).

 

What if Ohman becomes the LH set up man and Cotts is the LOOGY?

 

Cotts couldn't loogy in 2004 or 2006. I'd rather a loogy be a LH who actually gets out lefties routinely.

[JeffH]

He couldn't get out lefties last year to save his life, and they rocked him in 2004 as well. I think he might be a candidate for a starting job over a loogy.

 

Actually, he held LHH to a .318 OBA last season. The 5 HR (and 6 other EBH) in 99 AB is what killed him. That looks fluky.

[Andy]

I hope Lou doesn't constantly use Cotts incorrectly a la Dusty/Remlinger.

[YearofDaCubs]

This is from rotoworld so I don't know how good they are with prospects but Vazquez's numbers weren't bad.

 

Vasquez, a left-hander who turns 24 next month, had a 2.75 ERA and a 91/42 K/BB ratio in 85 innings of relief between Single-A Daytona and Double-A West Tenn last season. He qualified as one of the Cubs' better relief prospects, but he's not especially young and he still has to improve his command quite a bit.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

The White Sox also receive LHP Carlos Vazquez.

 

Well at least we get a 40 man spot out of it.

 

....or maybe not. When did Vazquez get taken off the 40?

 

A couple of years ago.

 

I should know stuff like this. Fare thee well Carlos, it was fun watching you in my trip to Lansing several years ago.

[USSoccer]

The only thing that makes sense to me is that another team wants Cotts included in a deal. Cotts doesn't do anything for the Cubs. He's redundant, like Aardsma was.

 

Or you just miss the obvious potential Eyre deal. I don't think Hendry would add a third LH arm for no reason.

 

It doesn't make sense to me to trade for Cotts to be your LH set-up man. That's what I'm saying. If another team has a woody for Cotts, then it makes sense to trade 2 pitchers for him. I just don't see the point in acquiring Cotts as the guy you will fall back on once dealing Eyre (which I'm in favor of).

 

What if Ohman becomes the LH set up man and Cotts is the LOOGY?

 

Cotts couldn't loogy in 2004 or 2006. I'd rather a loogy be a LH who actually gets out lefties routinely.

 

I'll assume that this move is just a setup move for a different trade. If Hendry deals Eyre for Westbrook, I won't care if Cotts can't get me out, since it improves the rotation.

 

If Cotts is the one who moves along with, say Jones or Izturis, I'll dance a jig on my desk.

 

If we keep all 3 or trade Ohman for Cliff Lee, I'll be unhappy.

[Neuby]

This is from rotoworld so I don't know how good they are with prospects but Vazquez's numbers weren't bad.

 

Vasquez, a left-hander who turns 24 next month, had a 2.75 ERA and a 91/42 K/BB ratio in 85 innings of relief between Single-A Daytona and Double-A West Tenn last season. He qualified as one of the Cubs' better relief prospects, but he's not especially young and he still has to improve his command quite a bit.

 

Hasn't this guy had enough arm injuries to make Wood and Prior healthy?