College Football - Week of 11/4

[soccer10k]

Michigan struggles against a 3-7 team at home while Louisville beats the #4 team by 10 and yet the Big 10 team stays where they are. I GUARANTEE you if Louisville beat Ball State by that same amount they'd drop like a rock.

 

The win wasnt pretty but they most definetly didnt struggle. The had over 500 of total yards on offense. Ball State made 3 really big plays and thats it, take those plays away and Michigan dominated the game. The 2 late scores were with many 2nd and 3rd stringers on the field. This doesnt excuse Texas moving in front of Louisville, im suprised about that. The coaches comments you are referring too pisses me off too. Troy Smith threw for like 100 yards against Illini and they only outgained Illini by like 20 yards. I could argue they struggled more this week than UM.

 

Sorry to nitpick but Texas was already ahead of Louisville. Last week it went OSU, UM, WVU, Texas, Louisville. But Louisville should have jumped ahead of Texas as they did in the AP poll.

[soccer10k]

When is the BCS poll supposed to be released?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

When is the BCS poll supposed to be released?

 

It's typically late afternoon/early evening I believe, earlier for you west coasters.

[Andy]

Michigan struggles against a 3-7 team at home while Louisville beats the #4 team by 10 and yet the Big 10 team stays where they are. I GUARANTEE you if Louisville beat Ball State by that same amount they'd drop like a rock.

 

The win wasnt pretty but they most definetly didnt struggle. The had over 500 of total yards on offense. Ball State made 3 really big plays and thats it, take those plays away and Michigan dominated the game. The 2 late scores were with many 2nd and 3rd stringers on the field. This doesnt excuse Texas moving in front of Louisville, im suprised about that. The coaches comments you are referring too pisses me off too. Troy Smith threw for like 100 yards against Illini and they only outgained Illini by like 20 yards. I could argue they struggled more this week than UM.

You're right. But I can't help but think that we'd be looking at a much different story if it was a Big East team, Notre Dame, or some other much-maligned team that had escaped Ball State by 8 points.

[Warpticon]

Arkansas isn't being robbed any more this week than they were previous weeks. Two teams lost in the top 11 (Tennessee and WV). WV moved down to 10th in both polls, and Tennessee fell to 13th and 15th. Hard to justify moving Arkansas farther than the one available spot with no dominating performance. If they finish off Tennesse, Mississippi State, and LSU to finish the season, though, they definitely need to be boosted in the rankings. The fact that the current 7-9 teams play each other doesn't hurt, nor does the schedule of the #10 team.

[soccer10k]

For anyone that cares. UC Davis managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for the second week in a row. After giving up 12 fourth quarter points (both 2 point conversions were botched), getting shut out in the second half to South Dakota State and losing 22-21, the Aggies pulled off the feat again this week. Up 24-0 at halftime over #5 North Dakota State, UCD gave up 28 unanswered points in the second half including a 16 play, 77 yard drive in just 2:28 as NDSU scored the winning touchdown with 4 seconds left. NDSU converted two fourth downs, of 10 and 12 yards, on that final drive. Last week against SDSU, UCD allowed a 12 play, 91 yard drive in 5:44, as SDSU got the game winning score with just over a minute to play.

 

ARGH.

 

Now they need to beat Sacramento State (basically a guarantee) and the University of San Diego (who knows) to ensure a 37th consecutive winning season.

[NewUserName]

Michigan struggles against a 3-7 team at home while Louisville beats the #4 team by 10 and yet the Big 10 team stays where they are. I GUARANTEE you if Louisville beat Ball State by that same amount they'd drop like a rock.

 

The win wasnt pretty but they most definetly didnt struggle. The had over 500 of total yards on offense. Ball State made 3 really big plays and thats it, take those plays away and Michigan dominated the game. The 2 late scores were with many 2nd and 3rd stringers on the field. This doesnt excuse Texas moving in front of Louisville, im suprised about that. The coaches comments you are referring too pisses me off too. Troy Smith threw for like 100 yards against Illini and they only outgained Illini by like 20 yards. I could argue they struggled more this week than UM.

You're right. But I can't help but think that we'd be looking at a much different story if it was a Big East team, Notre Dame, or some other much-maligned team that had escaped Ball State by 8 points.

 

 

I would be understanding if ND or Louisville had a 3rd string running back get 15 carries for 100 yds and a 3rd string defense in if Ball St scored some late TDs to make it close. I agree with Cubweiser in that OSU probably has more to be held accountable for than Michigan. Thats why I think margin of victory can be misleading. Michigan didnt blow N'western, Iowa or Penn St out but they clearly dominated all of those games. However some reporters who obviously didnt watch the games reported afterwords that Michigan was struggling. They won. time to move on. If Louisville wins out they will probably get there chance to play for the National Title. If not they will get a chance to play a really good team from another BCS conference. If they win that game they certainly have an arguement that they belonged instead of some 1 loss team. This would probably do more to help bring about change to fix the system than anything else.

[Andy]

For anyone that cares. UC Davis managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for the second week in a row. After giving up 12 fourth quarter points (both 2 point conversions were botched), getting shut out in the second half to South Dakota State and losing 22-21, the Aggies pulled off the feat again this week. Up 24-0 at halftime over #5 North Dakota State, UCD gave up 28 unanswered points in the second half including a 16 play, 77 yard drive in just 2:28 as NDSU scored the winning touchdown with 4 seconds left. NDSU converted two fourth downs, of 10 and 12 yards, on that final drive. Last week against SDSU, UCD allowed a 12 play, 91 yard drive in 5:44, as SDSU got the game winning score with just over a minute to play.

 

ARGH.

 

Now they need to beat Sacramento State (basically a guarantee) and the University of San Diego (who knows) to ensure a 37th consecutive winning season.

I thought it was humorous that the ESPN Bottom Line at one point posted the UC Davis/NDSU game as a 27-27 final.

 

NDSU, by the way, has one loss, a one-pointer in the Metrodome against Minnesota, and also beat Ball State. They're a pretty good I-AA team.

[soccer10k]

For anyone that cares. UC Davis managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory for the second week in a row. After giving up 12 fourth quarter points (both 2 point conversions were botched), getting shut out in the second half to South Dakota State and losing 22-21, the Aggies pulled off the feat again this week. Up 24-0 at halftime over #5 North Dakota State, UCD gave up 28 unanswered points in the second half including a 16 play, 77 yard drive in just 2:28 as NDSU scored the winning touchdown with 4 seconds left. NDSU converted two fourth downs, of 10 and 12 yards, on that final drive. Last week against SDSU, UCD allowed a 12 play, 91 yard drive in 5:44, as SDSU got the game winning score with just over a minute to play.

 

ARGH.

 

Now they need to beat Sacramento State (basically a guarantee) and the University of San Diego (who knows) to ensure a 37th consecutive winning season.

I thought it was humorous that the ESPN Bottom Line at one point posted the UC Davis/NDSU game as a 27-27 final.

 

NDSU, by the way, has one loss, a one-pointer in the Metrodome against Minnesota, and also beat Ball State. They're a pretty good I-AA team.

 

Oh yeah, they're good. It still ticks me off that we were up 24 on them and blew it. So frustrating. UCD always seems to lose these close games to the good teams.

 

Last year lost to New Hampshire by 4 who scored 14 4th quarter points and got the winning TD with 35 seconds left. Lost to Portland St. by 2 and South Dakota State by 2. This year they lost to South Dakota State by 1 and North Dakota State by 4.

[CuseCubFan69]

Arkansas isn't being robbed any more this week than they were previous weeks. Two teams lost in the top 11 (Tennessee and WV). WV moved down to 10th in both polls, and Tennessee fell to 13th and 15th. Hard to justify moving Arkansas farther than the one available spot with no dominating performance. If they finish off Tennesse, Mississippi State, and LSU to finish the season, though, they definitely need to be boosted in the rankings. The fact that the current 7-9 teams play each other doesn't hurt, nor does the schedule of the #10 team.

 

My question to you is why do they have to prove it after beating Auburn? These voters are just too ignorant to admit they were wrong in the first place IMO.

[Warpticon]

Arkansas isn't being robbed any more this week than they were previous weeks. Two teams lost in the top 11 (Tennessee and WV). WV moved down to 10th in both polls, and Tennessee fell to 13th and 15th. Hard to justify moving Arkansas farther than the one available spot with no dominating performance. If they finish off Tennesse, Mississippi State, and LSU to finish the season, though, they definitely need to be boosted in the rankings. The fact that the current 7-9 teams play each other doesn't hurt, nor does the schedule of the #10 team.

 

My question to you is why do they have to prove it after beating Auburn? These voters are just too ignorant to admit they were wrong in the first place IMO.

 

Well, until SC, they had subsequently beaten up bad teams. SEMO, Ole Miss, and LA-Monroe didn't get anybody excited or answer a lot of questions, and they hadn't been remarkably impressive beforel the Auburn game. SC was the toughest matchup since the Auburn game.

[cubweiser03]

ESPN reports JoPa broke his leg, injurd ligament.

[CuseCubFan69]

Arkansas isn't being robbed any more this week than they were previous weeks. Two teams lost in the top 11 (Tennessee and WV). WV moved down to 10th in both polls, and Tennessee fell to 13th and 15th. Hard to justify moving Arkansas farther than the one available spot with no dominating performance. If they finish off Tennesse, Mississippi State, and LSU to finish the season, though, they definitely need to be boosted in the rankings. The fact that the current 7-9 teams play each other doesn't hurt, nor does the schedule of the #10 team.

 

My question to you is why do they have to prove it after beating Auburn? These voters are just too ignorant to admit they were wrong in the first place IMO.

 

Well, until SC, they had subsequently beaten up bad teams. SEMO, Ole Miss, and LA-Monroe didn't get anybody excited or answer a lot of questions, and they hadn't been remarkably impressive beforel the Auburn game. SC was the toughest matchup since the Auburn game.

 

I agree their schedule isn't steller but crushing Auburn in Auburn showed me something. That game was dominated by Arkansas, not just won by turnovers and a last second field goal. You beat a team like that and they still vote you 5 to 7 places behind, you can't tell me something isn't fishy here. Arkansas is the ugly redhaired stepchild to the SEC.

[Warpticon]

Arkansas isn't being robbed any more this week than they were previous weeks. Two teams lost in the top 11 (Tennessee and WV). WV moved down to 10th in both polls, and Tennessee fell to 13th and 15th. Hard to justify moving Arkansas farther than the one available spot with no dominating performance. If they finish off Tennesse, Mississippi State, and LSU to finish the season, though, they definitely need to be boosted in the rankings. The fact that the current 7-9 teams play each other doesn't hurt, nor does the schedule of the #10 team.

 

My question to you is why do they have to prove it after beating Auburn? These voters are just too ignorant to admit they were wrong in the first place IMO.

 

Well, until SC, they had subsequently beaten up bad teams. SEMO, Ole Miss, and LA-Monroe didn't get anybody excited or answer a lot of questions, and they hadn't been remarkably impressive beforel the Auburn game. SC was the toughest matchup since the Auburn game.

 

I agree their schedule isn't steller but crushing Auburn in Auburn showed me something. That game was dominated by Arkansas, not just won by turnovers and a last second field goal. You beat a team like that and they still vote you 5 to 7 places behind, you can't tell me something isn't fishy here. Arkansas is the ugly redhaired stepchild to the SEC.

 

I'll take 5 to 7 spots when they were previously 30 spots behind, and I can't blame people for being cautious with their voting when I feel the same way about this Hogs team. If they beat Tennessee as they are capable of, then I really get behind them as a top 6 or 7 team.

[CuseCubFan69]

Arkansas isn't being robbed any more this week than they were previous weeks. Two teams lost in the top 11 (Tennessee and WV). WV moved down to 10th in both polls, and Tennessee fell to 13th and 15th. Hard to justify moving Arkansas farther than the one available spot with no dominating performance. If they finish off Tennesse, Mississippi State, and LSU to finish the season, though, they definitely need to be boosted in the rankings. The fact that the current 7-9 teams play each other doesn't hurt, nor does the schedule of the #10 team.

 

My question to you is why do they have to prove it after beating Auburn? These voters are just too ignorant to admit they were wrong in the first place IMO.

 

Well, until SC, they had subsequently beaten up bad teams. SEMO, Ole Miss, and LA-Monroe didn't get anybody excited or answer a lot of questions, and they hadn't been remarkably impressive beforel the Auburn game. SC was the toughest matchup since the Auburn game.

 

I agree their schedule isn't steller but crushing Auburn in Auburn showed me something. That game was dominated by Arkansas, not just won by turnovers and a last second field goal. You beat a team like that and they still vote you 5 to 7 places behind, you can't tell me something isn't fishy here. Arkansas is the ugly redhaired stepchild to the SEC.

 

I'll take 5 to 7 spots when they were previously 30 spots behind, and I can't blame people for being cautious with their voting when I feel the same way about this Hogs team. If they beat Tennessee as they are capable of, then I really get behind them as a top 6 or 7 team.

 

At least they get a chance to do it on the field, very true. Go Hogs!

[soccer10k]

New BCS Poll is out.

 

1. OSU .9865

2. UM .9706

3. UL .8907

4. UF .8017

5. Texas .7998

6. Auburn .7814

7. USC .7449

8. Cal .7330

9. ND .7316

10. WVU .5742

 

The computers still have Michigan as basically a unanimous #1 so they are still easily ahead of Louisville although Louisville is easily ahead of Texas for the #3 spot.

[Jazz]

New BCS Poll is out.

 

1. OSU .9865

2. UM .9706

3. UL .8907

4. UF .8017

5. Texas .7998

6. Auburn .7814

7. USC .7449

8. Cal .7330

9. ND .7316

10. WVU .5742

 

The computers still have Michigan as basically a unanimous #1 so they are still easily ahead of Louisville although Louisville is easily ahead of Texas for the #3 spot.

 

Can someone explain to me why the computer's averages are so different from the BCS poll?

[soccer10k]

New BCS Poll is out.

 

1. OSU .9865

2. UM .9706

3. UL .8907

4. UF .8017

5. Texas .7998

6. Auburn .7814

7. USC .7449

8. Cal .7330

9. ND .7316

10. WVU .5742

 

The computers still have Michigan as basically a unanimous #1 so they are still easily ahead of Louisville although Louisville is easily ahead of Texas for the #3 spot.

 

Can someone explain to me why the computer's averages are so different from the BCS poll?

 

Because the other two polls, Harris and USA Today, make up 2/3rds of the BCS score while the computer polls combined only make up 1/3rd of the BCS.

[CubColtPacer]

New BCS Poll is out.

 

1. OSU .9865

2. UM .9706

3. UL .8907

4. UF .8017

5. Texas .7998

6. Auburn .7814

7. USC .7449

8. Cal .7330

9. ND .7316

10. WVU .5742

 

The computers still have Michigan as basically a unanimous #1 so they are still easily ahead of Louisville although Louisville is easily ahead of Texas for the #3 spot.

 

Can someone explain to me why the computer's averages are so different from the BCS poll?

 

What do you mean exactly? Why do the computers disagree with the polls so much, causing the huge difference in the poll?

 

Or do you mean that the top team gets 25? In the computer averages, 25 is best. If you get a 25, that means you're #1 in that poll-all the way down to 1 point, which means you're number #25 in that computer poll actually.

 

Edit: That is of course until it says the entire computer average: then you want to be #1.

[Jazz]

New BCS Poll is out.

 

1. OSU .9865

2. UM .9706

3. UL .8907

4. UF .8017

5. Texas .7998

6. Auburn .7814

7. USC .7449

8. Cal .7330

9. ND .7316

10. WVU .5742

 

The computers still have Michigan as basically a unanimous #1 so they are still easily ahead of Louisville although Louisville is easily ahead of Texas for the #3 spot.

 

Can someone explain to me why the computer's averages are so different from the BCS poll?

 

What do you mean exactly? Why do the computers disagree with the polls so much, causing the huge difference in the poll?

 

Or do you mean that the top team gets 25? In the computer averages, 25 is best. If you get a 25, that means you're #1 in that poll-all the way down to 1 point, which means you're number #25 in that computer poll actually.

 

Edit: That is of course until it says the entire computer average: then you want to be #1.

 

the first thing you said. They have Cal at #4, but in the BCS poll, theyre at 8. Also Michigan is almost unanimously the top team in the computer rankings

[CubColtPacer]

New BCS Poll is out.

 

1. OSU .9865

2. UM .9706

3. UL .8907

4. UF .8017

5. Texas .7998

6. Auburn .7814

7. USC .7449

8. Cal .7330

9. ND .7316

10. WVU .5742

 

The computers still have Michigan as basically a unanimous #1 so they are still easily ahead of Louisville although Louisville is easily ahead of Texas for the #3 spot.

 

Can someone explain to me why the computer's averages are so different from the BCS poll?

 

What do you mean exactly? Why do the computers disagree with the polls so much, causing the huge difference in the poll?

 

Or do you mean that the top team gets 25? In the computer averages, 25 is best. If you get a 25, that means you're #1 in that poll-all the way down to 1 point, which means you're number #25 in that computer poll actually.

 

Edit: That is of course until it says the entire computer average: then you want to be #1.

 

the first thing you said. They have Cal at #4, but in the BCS poll, theyre at 8. Also Michigan is almost unanimously the top team in the computer rankings

 

Well, it's mainly because computers don't care about margin of victory or how you look. Michigan has the best SOS of the undefeated teams, and so they are #1-but in the human polls, OSU has looked better, so they are #1 in the polls. The computers have Cal much higher than they are in the polls because Cal has never been able to recover from the image of them getting destroyed in Tennessee in the polls, while in the computers it is once again that they have 1 loss with a good SOS.

[cubweiser03]

Puters have Texas 10. Thats whats hurting them over UL and Florida BCS point wise.

[Andy]

Evidently the computers are going to make ND beat USC and be 11-1 to clinch a BCS spot, which should pretty well quiet the "it's too easy for ND to make a BCS game" crowd.

[CubColtPacer]

Evidently the computers are going to make ND beat USC and be 11-1 to clinch a BCS spot, which should pretty well quiet the "it's too easy for ND to make a BCS game" crowd.

 

I still think they'll be top 14 even with a loss which would make them eligible-and I can't see the Sugar Bowl passing on ND, even if they shouldn't take them (I'm not saying that they should or they shouldn't-I really don't know). The money possibility is just too strong.

[cubweiser03]

Evidently the computers are going to make ND beat USC and be 11-1 to clinch a BCS spot, which should pretty well quiet the "it's too easy for ND to make a BCS game" crowd.

 

Why do you say that? The puters have them 6th right now. They need to sell the voters to improve their BCS points. IF they beat USC ill put money they get the BCS and they would rightfully deserve it. They might lose some power in the computers in the next couple weeks because of a deteriorting SOS but when they play USC the SOS will greatly improve. USC beating Oregon and Cal would only improve that.