Wood wants to come back, open to relief. Bring him back.

[soccer10k]

I don't think you've actually said anything worth reading in this thread. At this point, everyone's just doing a 'uh-huh! Nuh-uh! Uh-huh! Nuh-uh!' type of thing, and that's stupid. Almost as stupid as trying to argue that Wood had a great 2003 and when healthy is a great pitcher.

No, we are using statistical evidence to back up our argument, and mg420 is simply saying "no". There's a large difference there.

of course every one knows that statistics are the only thing that really matter in baseball and there is no way to interpret them to your advantage.

 

all hail the mighty numbers!

 

Welcome, Joe Morgan!!

[FergieJ31]

Can we settle this once and for all statistically? Does someone have access to historical pitching data to run a query?

 

Maybe we can compare Kerry's 2003 oppOBP and oppSLG against all MLB pitcher-seasons with, say, 150+ IP in the past 10 years? To be completely fair, we might want to exclude AL pitchers. And should we agree on what qualifies as a "great" percentile? Top 15%? Top 10%?

 

I have the Lahman 5.3 database at home so I can run the OBP test tonight ... but even Lahman doesn't have enough data to compute oppSLG (no 2B, 3B columns).

[UBlink]

I don't think you've actually said anything worth reading in this thread. At this point, everyone's just doing a 'uh-huh! Nuh-uh! Uh-huh! Nuh-uh!' type of thing, and that's stupid. Almost as stupid as trying to argue that Wood had a great 2003 and when healthy is a great pitcher.

No, we are using statistical evidence to back up our argument, and mg420 is simply saying "no". There's a large difference there.

of course every one knows that statistics are the only thing that really matter in baseball and there is no way to interpret them to your advantage.

 

all hail the mighty numbers!

 

Reminding again what those numbers were:

 

A season in which a pitcher has a 203 BAA, allows only a 312 OBP and a 333 SLG is a great year by any standards while throwing 211 is a great year by any standards.

 

This year no pitcher in baseball with 200+ innings is within shouting distance of those BAA and SLG numbers. Do you have any idea how outrageous they are? What more would you want in a great performance by a pitcher? A few less walks might have been nice, but a pitcher with those BAA and SLG numbers doesn't have to be afraid of a few walks.

[illiniguy]

I don't think you've actually said anything worth reading in this thread. At this point, everyone's just doing a 'uh-huh! Nuh-uh! Uh-huh! Nuh-uh!' type of thing, and that's stupid. Almost as stupid as trying to argue that Wood had a great 2003 and when healthy is a great pitcher.

No, we are using statistical evidence to back up our argument, and mg420 is simply saying "no". There's a large difference there.

of course every one knows that statistics are the only thing that really matter in baseball and there is no way to interpret them to your advantage.

 

all hail the mighty numbers!

 

Reminding again what those numbers were:

 

A season in which a pitcher has a 203 BAA, allows only a 312 OBP and a 333 SLG is a great year by any standards while throwing 211 is a great year by any standards.

 

This year no pitcher in baseball with 200+ innings is within shouting distance of those BAA and SLG numbers. Do you have any idea how outrageous they are? What more would you want in a great performance by a pitcher? A few less walks might have been nice, but a pitcher with those BAA and SLG numbers doesn't have to be afraid of a few walks.

Yeah he was so good. I thinkhe can be a great closer for us now. I doubt his arm will ever allow for him to be a starter again.