09/25 CUBS (Miller) @ Cincinnati (Arroyo) 11:35 CDT, WGN TV

[Schwarber Fan]

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/players/5/6270.jpg (0-2, 4.97)

vs.

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/sp/v/mlb/players/2006_1/6498.jpg (14-10, 3.38)

 

Arroyo will likely kill us yet again...

 

Lets see if we can get a 1 page game thread! We keep setting records - yesterday's was 2 pages.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Greetings one and all from beautiful Rancho Cucamonga, CA !!

 

Worhtless stats of the day for Monday...........

 

CUBS are 11-7 on Mondays

CUBS are 10-8 vs. Cincinnati

CUBS are 40-41 vs. the NLC Division

CUBS are 20-18 when they've lost their last 1 game(s) in a row

CUBS are 38-53 when they've lost their previous game

CUBS are 20-29 in games that end a series

CUBS are 5-6 in games that end a road trip

CUBS are 31-48 in day games

CUBS are 30-50 on the road

CUBS are 41-65 when the temperature is 70 degrees or above

CUBS are 22-44 when WGN broadcasts the game

CUBS are 56-26 when they score at least 4 runs.... 7-67 when they don't

CUBS are 39-16 when they allow fewer than 4 runs.... 23-76 when they don't

CUBS are 50-48 when they don't allow any runs is the first inning.... 13-45 when they do

CUBS are 50-35 when the opponent's starter pitches 6-1/3 inning or less.... 13-58 when he doesn't

CUBS are 38-18 when they get a quality start.... 25-75 when they don't

CUBS are 19-65 when the opponenent gets a quality start.... 44-28 when they don't

CUBS are 47-25 when they score first in the game.... 16-68 when they don't

CUBS are 31-21 when they score in the first inning.... 32-72 when they don't

CUBS are 28-13 when they hit at least 2 home runs.... 35-80 when they don't

 

Yesterday was the 22nd time this season that the CUBS did not draw a walk in the game...... their record: 6-16.

 

CUBS are 1-2 when Miller starts

Miller is 0 of 3 in quality starts

Miller's ERA pitching to Soto is 1.93 ... pitching to Blanco it's 6.75

CUBS score 4.33 R/G overall.... 3.33 R/G when Miller pitches

CUBS hit 1.04 HR/G overall.... 1.00 HR/G when Miller pitches

 

CUBS' offensive support of Miller.....

 

04/03 - 09/24      AB    R    H   2b   3b   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
CUBS w/Miller      99   10   26    4    1    3   41   10    1   22  0.263  0.275  0.414  0.689
CUBS overall     5359  676 1437  259   41  162 2264  639  381  887  0.268  0.319  0.422  0.742

 

Mil1ler's pitching lines (0-2).....

 

Miller                  IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
09/09  vs. Atla        3.0    5    4    4    5    3    2    74 15.00  9.00  6.00  3.33 12.00
09/14  vs. L.A.        5.0    1    2    2    3    3    1    81  5.40  5.40  1.80  0.80  3.60
09/19  vs. Phila       4.7    4    2    1    4    8    0    92  7.71 15.43  0.00  1.71  1.93

season totals         12.7   10    8    7   12   14    3   247  8.53  9.95  2.13  1.74  4.97

 

CUBS bullpen usage during the last week

 

              Sun        Sat        Fri        Thurs      Wed        Tues       Mon           Totals
             24 Sep     23 Sep     22 Sep     21 Sep     20 Sep     19 Sep     18 Sep
             at Cinci   at Cinci   at Cinci   no game   at Phila   at Phila   at Phila
pitcher        IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit     IP Pit        IP Pit

Dempster      0.3  24    1.0  26                                                1.0  10       2.3  60
Eyre          0.0  11    0.7  11                                     0.3  11    1.0  19       2.0  52
Howry         1.0  16    0.3   1                                                1.0  17       2.3  34
Ohman         0.3   5                                     0.3  11    1.0  14    0.7  14       2.3  44
Novoa                                                     1.0  19    0.3  12                  1.3  31
Wuertz        1.7  22                                     1.0   7               2.0  15       4.7  44
Aardsma                                                              1.7  30                  1.7  30
Guzman                                                    1.0  20                             1.0  20
Walrond                                                                                              
Marmol                                                                                               
Ryu                                                       1.7  41                             1.7  41

Totals        3.3  78    2.0  38                          5.0  98    3.3  67    5.7  75      19.3 356

 

CUBS' season series vs. Cincinnati (10-8) .......

 

Gm#    Date       Opponent         Score  Starter
 1  Mon 04/03  @ Cincinnati       16- 7  Zambrano      
 2  Wed 04/05  @ Cincinnati        6- 8  Rusch        
 6  Tue 04/11    Cincinnati        2- 9  Rusch        
 7  Wed 04/12    Cincinnati        4- 1  Maddux        
 8  Thu 04/13    Cincinnati        3- 8  Zambrano      
50  Mon 05/29    Cincinnati        7- 3  Wood        
51  Tue 05/30    Cincinnati    N   8- 3  Maddux        
52  Wed 05/31    Cincinnati    N   2- 3  Zambrano      
59  Thu 06/08  @ Cincinnati    N   1- 7  Rusch        
60  Fri 06/09  @ Cincinnati    N   6- 5  Maddux        
61  Sat 06/10  @ Cincinnati        4- 2  Zambrano      
62  Sun 06/11  @ Cincinnati        9- 3  Marmol        
148  Fri 09/15    Cincinnati        0- 4  Mateo        
149  Sat 09/16    Cincinnati        4- 0  Hill        
150  Sun 09/17    Cincinnati       11- 3  Zambrano      
154  Fri 09/22  @ Cincinnati    N   2- 4  Hill        
155  Sat 09/23  @ Cincinnati       11- 4  Zambrano      
156  Sun 09/24  @ Cincinnati        2- 3  Mateo     
157  Mon 09/25  @ Cincinnati         -    Miller        

 

CUBS hitters vs. Cincinnati this year.....

 

vs. Cincy          AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Theriot            14    6    6    0    0    2   12    2    3    1  0.429  0.529  0.857  1.387
Lee                13    4    4    3    0    1   10    5    8    2  0.308  0.545  0.769  1.315
Mabry               9    1    4    0    0    1    7    5    1    0  0.444  0.455  0.778  1.232
Ramirez            58    7   17    7    0    3   33   11    4    5  0.293  0.349  0.569  0.918
Nevin              10    1    3    0    0    1    6    2    0    3  0.300  0.300  0.600  0.900
Womack             18    2    6    1    0    1   10    1    0    2  0.333  0.333  0.556  0.889
Walker             41   10   14    3    0    1   20    8    4    2  0.341  0.400  0.488  0.888
Murton             65   12   19    3    0    4   34    7    5    6  0.292  0.361  0.523  0.884
Soto                9    0    3    1    0    0    4    1    0    0  0.333  0.400  0.444  0.844
Jones              45   10   10    1    1    4   25   11    1   10  0.222  0.250  0.556  0.806
Blanco             33    4   10    2    0    1   15    7    1    8  0.303  0.324  0.455  0.778
Barrett            36    5    9    2    0    2   17   10    3    5  0.250  0.300  0.472  0.772
Pierre             78   13   24    5    2    0   33    4    1    5  0.308  0.316  0.423  0.740
Cedeno             59    9   17    2    0    2   25    5    2   14  0.288  0.311  0.424  0.735
Coats               7    1    1    0    0    1    4    1    0    1  0.143  0.143  0.571  0.714
Hairston           13    2    4    1    0    0    5    0    0    3  0.308  0.308  0.385  0.692
Pagan              21    3    6    1    0    0    7    2    1    4  0.286  0.318  0.333  0.652
Perez              23    4    5    1    0    1    9    5    0    5  0.217  0.208  0.391  0.600
Bynum              16    0    2    0    0    0    2    0    1    7  0.125  0.176  0.125  0.301
Izturis             3    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Moore               7    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    3  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000
Reyes               1    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    0    1  0.000  0.000  0.000  0.000

totals vs. Cincy  615   97  171   35    3   27  293   90   36  101  0.278  0.321  0.476  0.797

season totals    5358  675 1435  254   40  162 2255  629  380  885  0.268  0.319  0.421  0.740

 

CUBS pitchers vs. Cincinnati this year......

 

vs. Cincy            IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Wuertz              3.7    0    0    0    2    4    0    50  4.91  9.82  0.00  0.55  0.00
Ryu                 1.0    0    0    0    0    2    0    14  0.00 18.00  0.00  0.00  0.00
Walrond             3.0    1    0    0    0    5    0    34  0.00 15.00  0.00  0.33  0.00
Mateo               8.0    3    1    1    6    7    0   130  6.75  7.88  0.00  1.13  1.13
Howry               7.3    8    1    1    2    8    1   119  2.45  9.82  1.23  1.36  1.23
Wood                6.0    5    2    1    1    4    0    85  1.50  6.00  0.00  1.00  1.50
Aardsma             3.7    2    1    1    3    4    1    78  7.36  9.82  2.45  1.36  2.45
Hill               14.0    6    4    4    3   20    3   217  1.93 12.86  1.93  0.64  2.57
Maddux             17.0   14    6    6    2   10    2   216  1.06  5.29  1.06  0.94  3.18
Zambrano           38.3   29   17   16   24   36    7   653  5.63  8.45  1.64  1.38  3.76
Novoa               4.7    2    2    2    5    2    0    91  9.64  3.86  0.00  1.50  3.86
Williamson          2.3    2    2    1    3    3    0    55 11.57 11.57  0.00  2.14  3.86
Eyre                8.7   12    6    5    6    7    2   183  6.23  7.27  2.08  2.08  5.19
Willliams           3.0    3    3    2    4    1    1    63 12.00  3.00  3.00  2.33  6.00
Marmol              7.0    4    5    5    6    8    2   124  7.71 10.29  2.57  1.43  6.43
Dempster            8.7   13    7    7    6   11    0   197  6.23 11.42  0.00  2.19  7.27
Rusch              12.7   18   13   13    4   11    9   260  2.84  7.82  6.39  1.74  9.24
Ohman               6.3    6    7    7    2    8    2    92  2.84 11.37  2.84  1.26  9.95

totals vs. Cincy  155.3  128   77   72   79  151   30  2661  4.58  8.75  1.74  1.33  4.17

season totals    1381.0 1354  804  735  657 1196  200 23621  4.28  7.79  1.30  1.46  4.79

 

CUBS' hitters during the last 7 games......

 

09/17 - 09/24      AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
Theriot            20    8   10    1    0    2   17    2    3    1  0.500  0.565  0.850  1.415
Jones              13    2    4    0    1    1    9    3    3    5  0.308  0.471  0.692  1.163
Ramirez            29    7   10    1    0    4   23   12    0    2  0.345  0.345  0.793  1.138
Moore              12    2    4    1    0    1    8    2    1    2  0.333  0.385  0.667  1.051
Coats               8    1    2    1    0    1    6    1    0    1  0.250  0.250  0.750  1.000
Murton             23    4    6    0    0    2   12    3    2    5  0.261  0.346  0.522  0.868
Pierre             31    5    9    2    0    1   14    2    0    1  0.290  0.290  0.452  0.742
Mabry               6    0    2    0    0    0    2    3    1    2  0.333  0.375  0.333  0.708
Blanco             28    2    7    2    0    1   12    3    1    5  0.250  0.276  0.429  0.704
Bynum               9    1    2    0    1    0    4    0    0    2  0.222  0.222  0.444  0.667
Cedeno             26    3    5    2    1    1   12    3    0   10  0.192  0.192  0.462  0.654
Soto                9    0    2    0    0    0    2    0    0    1  0.222  0.300  0.222  0.522
Pagan              12    1    2    0    0    0    2    1    1    1  0.167  0.231  0.167  0.397

7 game totals     242   39   68   10    3   16  132   37   12   44  0.281  0.322  0.545  0.867

season totals    5358  675 1435  254   40  162 2255  629  380  885  0.268  0.319  0.421  0.740

 

CUBS' pitchers during the last 7 games......

 

09/17 - 09/24        IP    H    R   ER   BB    K   HR    PC  BB/9   K/9  HR/9  WHIP   ERA
Wuertz              4.7    0    0    0    1    3    0    44  1.93  5.79  0.00  0.21  0.00
Howry               2.3    3    0    0    0    4    0    34  0.00 15.43  0.00  1.29  0.00
Eyre                2.0    4    0    0    1    4    0    52  4.50 18.00  0.00  2.50  0.00
Guzman              1.0    1    0    0    1    0    0    20  9.00  0.00  0.00  2.00  0.00
Mateo               5.0    3    1    1    4    4    0    86  7.20  7.20  0.00  1.40  1.80
Miller              4.7    4    2    1    4    8    0    92  7.71 15.43  0.00  1.71  1.93
Zambrano           14.0   10    4    4    7   13    1   218  4.50  8.36  0.64  1.21  2.57
Novoa               2.3    2    2    1    1    1    1    39  3.86  3.86  3.86  1.29  3.86
Ohman               2.3    2    1    1    2    4    0    44  7.71 15.43  0.00  1.71  3.86
Aardsma             1.7    1    1    1    1    2    1    30  5.40 10.80  5.40  1.20  5.40
Walrond             3.0    3    2    2    5    6    0    76 15.00 18.00  0.00  2.67  6.00
Hill                5.0    4    4    4    2   10    3    99  3.60 18.00  5.40  1.20  7.20
Ryu                 1.7    3    2    2    1    1    1    41  5.40  5.40  5.40  2.40 10.80
Dempster            3.3    8    5    5    1    5    0    84  2.70 13.50  0.00  2.70 13.50
Marshall            3.3    5    6    6    2    3    1    60  5.40  8.10  2.70  2.10 16.20

7 game totals      56.3   53   30   28   33   68    8  1019  5.27 10.86  1.28  1.53  4.47

season totals    1381.0 1354  804  735  657 1196  200 23621  4.28  7.79  1.30  1.46  4.79

 

Percentage of baserunners driven in

 

04/03 - 09/24      BDI  LOB   RBI%
Restovich            1    2  0.333
Theriot             10   26  0.278
Ramirez             74  221  0.251
Walker              34  105  0.245
Lee                 22   78  0.220
Murton              45  162  0.217
Perez               22   83  0.210
Barrett             38  145  0.208
Jones               51  195  0.207
Blanco              23   94  0.197
Izturis              6   26  0.188
Nevin               18   79  0.186
Moore                2    9  0.182
Mabry               17   79  0.177
Pagan               12   60  0.167
Pierre              32  169  0.159
Soto                 2   12  0.143
Cedeno              33  214  0.134
Hairston             4   27  0.129
Bynum                6   41  0.128
Womack               1   14  0.067
Coats                0    6  0.000
Reyes                0    0  0.000

CUBS               467 1976  0.191

 

Go CUBS !!

[Sammy Sofa]

I would like to see Miller to continue getting better and I would like him back for a cheapie single year deal with incentives.

[Rob]

I'd like to see Miller get smashed. Then again, I'm committed to making a run at the #1 draft pick.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'd like to see Miller get smashed. Then again, I'm committed to making a run at the #1 draft pick.

 

Seeing as this is baseball, the Cubs could easily get just as good a pick where they're at now as opposed to being in last place.

[Bruce Miles]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

The Riot, 2B

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Pagan, RF

Mabry, 1B

Blanco, C

Cedeno, SS

Miller, P

 

Redlegs

Denorfia, CF

Hatteberg, 1B

Aurilia, SS

Dunn, LF

Encarnacion, 3B

Phillips, 2B

Hollandsworth, RF

Ross, C

Arroyo, P

[E.J.]

I'd like to see Miller get smashed. Then again, I'm committed to making a run at the #1 draft pick.

 

Seeing as this is baseball, the Cubs could easily get just as good a pick where they're at now as opposed to being in last place.

 

I'd like to see him get smashed because I don't want to see Hendry sign him to a long-term deal in the offseason based on a couple of good starts at the end of the season.

[muntjack]

His curveball sure looked good last time out. If he can just get that fastball back to 93 or so, he'd make a great 3rd starter.

[Sammy Sofa]

I'd like to see Miller get smashed. Then again, I'm committed to making a run at the #1 draft pick.

 

Seeing as this is baseball, the Cubs could easily get just as good a pick where they're at now as opposed to being in last place.

 

I'd like to see him get smashed because I don't want to see Hendry sign him to a long-term deal in the offseason based on a couple of good starts at the end of the season.

 

Nobody wants a long term deal for him at this point. My issues with Hendry aside, I'm hoping he's learned from his mistakes with Neifi, Rusch and Dempster and wouldn't sign him to more than a single year deal with incentives on the cheap. The pitching FA market is pretty slim this year and if Miller can get back to what he was or even just close to that he helps solve some problems as a go-to #4 or even #3.

 

I understand the concern but at the same time I find it inane and incredibly shortsighted for people to root for the failure of someone who could potentially help this team out in a big way next year ideally for not a huge sum of money. We're not talking Neifi or Rusch flash in the pans here here...Miller has shown in the past he can be a legitmately good starter. Obviously, I don't want him coming back to be at the sacrifice of picking up another quality starter out the FA market, but I want him to succeed for this club for the right price.

Edited September 25, 2006 by Sammy Sofa

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If we were actually in a penant race, I might have skipped work to watch this one...or try to find a way to watch it at work.

 

As this season has been lost for some time now, I don't care.

[E.J.]

I'd like to see Miller get smashed. Then again, I'm committed to making a run at the #1 draft pick.

 

Seeing as this is baseball, the Cubs could easily get just as good a pick where they're at now as opposed to being in last place.

 

I'd like to see him get smashed because I don't want to see Hendry sign him to a long-term deal in the offseason based on a couple of good starts at the end of the season.

 

Nobody wants a long term deal for him at this point. My issues with Hendry aside, I'm hoping he's learned from his mistakes with Neifi, Rusch and Dempster and wouldn't sign him to more than a single year deal with incentives on the cheap. The pitching FA market is pretty slim this year and if Miller can get back to what he was or even just close to that he helps solve some problems as a go-to #4 or even #3.

 

I understand the concern but at the same time I find it inane and incredibly shortsighted for people to root for the failure of someone who could potentially help this team out in a big way next year ideally for not a huge sum of money. We're not talking Neifi or Rusch flash in the pans here here...Miller has shown in the past he can be a legitmately good starter. Obviously, I don't want him coming back to be at the sacrifice of picking up another quality starter out the FA market, but I want him to succeed for this club for the right price.

 

Yes, but Miller is a guy coming off major shoulder surgery with a somewhat violent delivery (good chance for more injury), who's only throwing in the high 80's at this point. He might gain a couple mph on his fastball as his shoulder gets stronger, but there's no way to know for sure. Add in the fact that Hendry seems to just throw long-term deals at people for some reason, and I see a big concern here.

 

I wouldn't mind seeing Hendry giving Miller a 1-year, low base, high incentive deal, but I really do worry that he'll try to sign Miller to a 2-3 year deal, and I just don't think that's a good idea.

[goonys evil twin]

Things are not going well when you intentionally walk Ronny Cedeno in the first inning. The Cubs seem to have grounded out about 5 times already this inning.

[E.J.]

The Cubs have already put up a 4 spot in the 1st inning. The Reds have 2 errors in the inning so far.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Holy Jebus! Four runs in the first!

[CubinNY]

Wow this is an early game.

[gflore34]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

The Riot, 2B

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Pagan, RF

Mabry, 1B

Blanco, C

Cedeno, SS

Miller, P

 

Redlegs

Denorfia, CF

Hatteberg, 1B

Aurilia, SS

Dunn, LF

Encarnacion, 3B

Phillips, 2B

Hollandsworth, RF

Ross, C

Arroyo, P

 

Bruce, if you re-visit or, if anyone knows the answer, I'd really like to know why a MI must bat 2nd...

[Andy]

Lineups

 

Cubs

Pierre, CF

The Riot, 2B

Ramirez, 3B

Murton, LF

Pagan, RF

Mabry, 1B

Blanco, C

Cedeno, SS

Miller, P

 

Redlegs

Denorfia, CF

Hatteberg, 1B

Aurilia, SS

Dunn, LF

Encarnacion, 3B

Phillips, 2B

Hollandsworth, RF

Ross, C

Arroyo, P

 

Bruce, if you re-visit or, if anyone knows the answer, I'd really like to know why a MI must bat 2nd...

At the rate Theriot has been getting on base, hitting 2nd is probably the 2nd-best possible place in the order, and with leadoff out of the question it's as good as we could hope.

[Tedward]

Slow gamethread, but can anybody watching report what Miller's velocity is on his heater today?

[mg420]

Slow gamethread, but can anybody watching report what Miller's velocity is on his heater today?

no idea on his velocity but his line score looks pretty good. if he can pitch this well throwing 88-90, the cubs would be wise to sign him for next year. look at the year arroyo has had and he doesnt throw much harder 90 if at all.

[Brian]

Reds are in slam range

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Can Wuertz save the day for the rest of the pen?

[BeerHere]

This season cant be over fast enough

[E.J.]

Dusty thinks he's Tony LaRussa again. He's used 4 pitchers in the 7th inning already.

[Rusch33]

There went the lead..

[Jim Ignatowski]

Reggie! Reggie! Reggie! (whoops, my bad)

 

Junior! Junior! Junior!

 

 

Both tied for 10th all-time on the HR list at 563.

 

Another fine outing for the cobs bullpen.