The Official Dusty Baker Pink Slip Waiting Room.

[Balsa]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

[soccer10k]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

[Balsa]

Not that I think Dusty SHOULDN'T be fired, but it kinda pisses me off when people look at that game and blame him for it.

 

That was a cut and dry example of a game that was lost completely by the players.

[Laura]

I don't want Dusty gone because of yesterday's game, but I do want him gone. I don't know how much good in the long run bouncing Dusty will do if Hendry and MacPhail are still around. I'm ready for the Trib to go; it doesn't matter if they care about winning (and have finally funded a decent payroll), it matters that they haven't done so and have compiled a record of futility over the past 25 years. Doesn't seem like that's likely to change anytime soon, and I don't need another 25 years to see whether they can turn it around.

 

I wish there was a small sample size problem with judging the Cubs' record under Tribune ownership.

[Backtobanks]

Whatever anybody thinks of Dusty, he needs to go now because his firing has become a distraction to the team. Everybody on the team seems to be waiting for the other shoe to drop (firing Baker and/or trading half of the team). I think it is pretty obvious that Baker will not be managing the team next year, so get rid of him now.

[Outshined_One]

Not that I think Dusty SHOULDN'T be fired, but it kinda pisses me off when people look at that game and blame him for it.

 

That was a cut and dry example of a game that was lost completely by the players.

 

Dusty was the one who made the decision to bring in Novoa, who has been absolutely atrocious this season, to stop the bleeding. He also brought in Ohman to face some right-handed hitters, which have been his kryptonite this season.

 

While the pitching and defense didn't get the job done, Dusty didn't exactly make some brilliant moves out there.

[badgercub]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

 

I like this move. Marshall has already pitched a career high amount of innings. The season is lost, no sense in ruining the kids arm. Now Marmol, Guzman, and Hill can all get a chance to show what they can do, plenty of arms that can pick up the slack. I would also send Novoa down and bring back Wuertz to give Eyre and Howry a break.

[CUBZ99]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

 

I like this move. Marshall has already pitched a career high amount of innings. The season is lost, no sense in ruining the kids arm. Now Marmol, Guzman, and Hill can all get a chance to show what they can do, plenty of arms that can pick up the slack. I would also send Novoa down and bring back Wuertz to give Eyre and Howry a break.

 

Marshall needs to get as many starts in the majors this year as possible. The guy can flat out pitch and is still very raw. One of the few positives regarding this season is that Marshall and Marmol are getting ample time to develop without worrying about mistakes or one bad inning (like last night). The games from here on out are meaningless from a standings standpoint, but not from a development standpoint. I would much rather let them taking their lumps against major league hitters than dominate AAA pitching.

[badgercub]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

 

I like this move. Marshall has already pitched a career high amount of innings. The season is lost, no sense in ruining the kids arm. Now Marmol, Guzman, and Hill can all get a chance to show what they can do, plenty of arms that can pick up the slack. I would also send Novoa down and bring back Wuertz to give Eyre and Howry a break.

 

Marshall needs to get as many starts in the majors this year as possible. The guy can flat out pitch and is still very raw. One of the few positives regarding this season is that Marshall and Marmol are getting ample time to develop without worrying about mistakes or one bad inning (like last night). The games from here on out are meaningless from a standings standpoint, but not from a development standpoint. I would much rather let them taking their lumps against major league hitters than dominate AAA pitching.

 

So you want Marshall to go from a career high of like 130 innings pitched to see if he can top 200 innings this year? I just don't think that will help his development at all, I think that is just begging for trouble. Marshall has gained plenty of experience and I like the fact he will remain on the big league club so he can still soak up as much as he can from Maddux. Finally a little forsight by management.

[Outshined_One]

I have to give the team credit when it comes to keeping an eye on Marshall. He's only gone over the 100 pitch mark three times so far this season, and all three times he was only at 102 pitches.

 

He still has plenty left to work on with regards to his pitching...but considering that the season is lost, the Cubs aren't exactly losing anything by letting him develop and throwing him out there every time his spot in the rotation comes up.

[CUBZ99]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

 

I like this move. Marshall has already pitched a career high amount of innings. The season is lost, no sense in ruining the kids arm. Now Marmol, Guzman, and Hill can all get a chance to show what they can do, plenty of arms that can pick up the slack. I would also send Novoa down and bring back Wuertz to give Eyre and Howry a break.

 

Marshall needs to get as many starts in the majors this year as possible. The guy can flat out pitch and is still very raw. One of the few positives regarding this season is that Marshall and Marmol are getting ample time to develop without worrying about mistakes or one bad inning (like last night). The games from here on out are meaningless from a standings standpoint, but not from a development standpoint. I would much rather let them taking their lumps against major league hitters than dominate AAA pitching.

 

So you want Marshall to go from a career high of like 130 innings pitched to see if he can top 200 innings this year? I just don't think that will help his development at all, I think that is just begging for trouble. Marshall has gained plenty of experience and I like the fact he will remain on the big league club so he can still soak up as much as he can from Maddux. Finally a little forsight by management.

 

Yes, I want him to prove tht he can pitch a full major league season, just the same that is expected of every major league pitcher. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Marshall has some of the same problems as Wood, Prior, etc. I've never heard anybody complain about his mechanics and if I remember right, his injury last year had to do with his finger.

 

As someone pointed out earlier, its not as if he is pitching 100+ pitches per game on a consistent basis.

[badgercub]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

 

I like this move. Marshall has already pitched a career high amount of innings. The season is lost, no sense in ruining the kids arm. Now Marmol, Guzman, and Hill can all get a chance to show what they can do, plenty of arms that can pick up the slack. I would also send Novoa down and bring back Wuertz to give Eyre and Howry a break.

 

Marshall needs to get as many starts in the majors this year as possible. The guy can flat out pitch and is still very raw. One of the few positives regarding this season is that Marshall and Marmol are getting ample time to develop without worrying about mistakes or one bad inning (like last night). The games from here on out are meaningless from a standings standpoint, but not from a development standpoint. I would much rather let them taking their lumps against major league hitters than dominate AAA pitching.

 

So you want Marshall to go from a career high of like 130 innings pitched to see if he can top 200 innings this year? I just don't think that will help his development at all, I think that is just begging for trouble. Marshall has gained plenty of experience and I like the fact he will remain on the big league club so he can still soak up as much as he can from Maddux. Finally a little forsight by management.

 

Yes, I want him to prove tht he can pitch a full major league season, just the same that is expected of every major league pitcher. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Marshall has some of the same problems as Wood, Prior, etc. I've never heard anybody complain about his mechanics and if I remember right, his injury last year had to do with his finger.

 

As someone pointed out earlier, its not as if he is pitching 100+ pitches per game on a consistent basis.

 

I never heard of any problems with Mark Prior's mechanics either, until after Dusty used and abused him in 2003, not that the collision with Giles or the line drive off of his arm helped matters any. All pitchers have to progressively build up their stamina to get to the point of pitching a full season, which Marshall hasn't done yet. The Cubs shut down Prior after signing because of all the innings he threw in college the year he came out, why is this any different?

[BigbadB]

Can we get some really bad Muzak piping through the speaker system of this virtual waiting room, already? Just having to hang out in here just isn't enough pain.

 

Thank you!

[Outshined_One]

Here's something to keep us occupied in the meantime.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Gary Gillette chimed in today in his chat.

 

Mike (Austin, TX): Why hasn't Dusty been fired? The Cubs have one of the highest payrolls in baseball and they may finish behind the Pirates.

 

SportsNation Gary Gillette: (4:29 PM ET ) Hmmm. Let's see...Because they're the Cubs? Seriously, I think Baker will get the ax pretty soon, as I don't see them doing well against Houston, St. Louis, and New York, who have 9 of the next 12 games vs. the Cubs.

[badger1679666666]

God I really thought SOME bomb would be dropped today.

 

Does Dusty/coaching staff have pictures of Hendry molesting a farm animal or something? How does everyone realize a change needs to be made 2 months ago besides the one guy that needs to?

 

or Is Hendry THAT in love with Dusty?

[ConstableRabbit]

So how long does it take for this thread to go to 100 pgs upon Dusty's cannage?

[badger1679666666]

So how long does it take for this thread to go to 100 pgs upon Dusty's cannage?

 

 

Less time than it would take Slap Nasty or Freddy Bynum to run from 1st to the dugout after grounding out to pitcher or second.

[BigSlick]

Here's something to keep us occupied in the meantime.

 

This made me smile.

[ConstableRabbit]

So how long does it take for this thread to go to 100 pgs upon Dusty's cannage?

 

 

Less time than it would take Slap Nasty or Freddy Bynum to run from 1st to the dugout after grounding out to pitcher or second.

 

perhaps this is old by now but

 

SPEED NEVER SLUMPS!!!111

[soccer10k]

If Hendry doesn't fire someone tomorrow, the whole management team should be sent packing. He doesn't even necessarily have to fire Dusty right now. But he has to fire SOMEONE.

"And today it was announced that Sean Marshall has been sent back down to AAA"....

 

"Sean Marshall will now be working out of the bullpen" would be worse. At least in AAA, Marshall would still be getting starts.

 

I like this move. Marshall has already pitched a career high amount of innings. The season is lost, no sense in ruining the kids arm. Now Marmol, Guzman, and Hill can all get a chance to show what they can do, plenty of arms that can pick up the slack. I would also send Novoa down and bring back Wuertz to give Eyre and Howry a break.

 

Marshall needs to get as many starts in the majors this year as possible. The guy can flat out pitch and is still very raw. One of the few positives regarding this season is that Marshall and Marmol are getting ample time to develop without worrying about mistakes or one bad inning (like last night). The games from here on out are meaningless from a standings standpoint, but not from a development standpoint. I would much rather let them taking their lumps against major league hitters than dominate AAA pitching.

 

So you want Marshall to go from a career high of like 130 innings pitched to see if he can top 200 innings this year? I just don't think that will help his development at all, I think that is just begging for trouble. Marshall has gained plenty of experience and I like the fact he will remain on the big league club so he can still soak up as much as he can from Maddux. Finally a little forsight by management.

 

Yes, I want him to prove tht he can pitch a full major league season, just the same that is expected of every major league pitcher. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe that Marshall has some of the same problems as Wood, Prior, etc. I've never heard anybody complain about his mechanics and if I remember right, his injury last year had to do with his finger.

 

As someone pointed out earlier, its not as if he is pitching 100+ pitches per game on a consistent basis.

 

Marshall is currently on pace for 176 IP this year, not over 200+. He is only averaging 89 pitches per start this year and has only topped the 100 pitch mark three times with a max of 102 pitches. This is hardly considered to be overworking a pitcher.