Jacque to the Yanks ?

[nolanwood]

JIM, WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET OUT OF THAT TERRIBLE CONTRACT....

 

Roast,

 

You answered your own question. In Jim Hendry's mind, paying a 31 year old, left-handed hitting, toolsy player with 30 hr potential $11.67M over 2007 and 2008 is just not terrible.

 

Well, my question is, where does this "30 HR potential" come from. The most he has ever hit in one season is 27 (2002) which was coincidentally his best overall year of his career. In fact; one could probably say it was the exception to the rest of his career. Outside that season his highest HR total is 23.

 

And its sad that Hendry doesnt realize that.

 

 

Well, we are halfway through the season and Jock strap has 13 Hr's. I don't think 30 for the year is outta the question at all.

[Banedon]

JIM, WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET OUT OF THAT TERRIBLE CONTRACT....

 

Roast,

 

You answered your own question. In Jim Hendry's mind, paying a 31 year old, left-handed hitting, toolsy player with 30 hr potential $11.67M over 2007 and 2008 is just not terrible.

 

Well, my question is, where does this "30 HR potential" come from. The most he has ever hit in one season is 27 (2002) which was coincidentally his best overall year of his career. In fact; one could probably say it was the exception to the rest of his career. Outside that season his highest HR total is 23.

 

And its sad that Hendry doesnt realize that.

 

 

Well, we are halfway through the season and Jock strap has 13 Hr's. I don't think 30 for the year is outta the question at all.

 

His career high is 27...you think he's having a career year? Or possibly going through a good stretch?

[badgercub]

Of course part of me says we should first see how Lee rebounds from the wrist injury.

 

He's injury prone.

 

Heh.

 

I'm just concerned over his bat speed coming back from an injury to the wrist.

 

With the type of injury he sustained I don't think that should be a problem. If he had torn a tendon or something like that, then I would be concerned. By the way, I am not a Dr. but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[Milli1306]

My core is: Steve Rain, Andrew Lorraine and Micah Bowie

 

i'm more on the jeremi gonzalez, ozzie timmons, chad meyers bandwagon myself

[CuseCubFan69]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

[Monco]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

When people talk about an arm they usually refer to strength.His arm is strong but his accuaracy is awful.His release point is screwed up. Thats why he throws 7 hoppers to the cutoff man from time to time.Or,launches throws 10 feet over someones head. His routes to the ball are poor. And don't forget his baserunning which is awful. I don't care if he hits 30-35 homers. He is a poor fundamental ballplayer. He fits in well here.

[Neuby]

Most reports I have seen on Jones are that he was a well above average right fielder who could cover center in a pinch. His arm is also above average but accuracy is terrible this season.

[Outshined_One]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

When people talk about an arm they usually refer to strength.His arm is strong but his accuaracy is awful.His release point is screwed up. Thats why he throws 7 hoppers to the cutoff man from time to time.Or,launches throws 10 feet over someones head. His routes to the ball are poor. And don't forget his baserunning which is awful. I don't care if he hits 30-35 homers. He is a poor fundamental ballplayer. He fits in well here.

 

It's like Moises Alou all over again.

[Roast]

JIM, WHY DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET OUT OF THAT TERRIBLE CONTRACT....

 

Roast,

 

You answered your own question. In Jim Hendry's mind, paying a 31 year old, left-handed hitting, toolsy player with 30 hr potential $11.67M over 2007 and 2008 is just not terrible.

 

Well, my question is, where does this "30 HR potential" come from. The most he has ever hit in one season is 27 (2002) which was coincidentally his best overall year of his career. In fact; one could probably say it was the exception to the rest of his career. Outside that season his highest HR total is 23.

 

And its sad that Hendry doesnt realize that.

 

 

Well, we are halfway through the season and Jock strap has 13 Hr's. I don't think 30 for the year is outta the question at all.

 

His career high is 27...you think he's having a career year? Or possibly going through a good stretch?

 

Exactly. Is it possible jones continues this hot streak for the rest of the season and hits 30? Sure. Is it likely? No. Look over Jones career and you'll see a trend. That trend points to him not keeping up these numbers.

[NCCubFan]

By the way, I am not a Dr. but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I thought you were just here for the Bud Light. :lol:

[fallingpieces]

By the way, I am not a Dr. but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I thought you were just here for the Bud Light. :lol:

 

No I'm that's why I'm here. STICK IT IN MY VEINS!

[Backtobanks]

How about Jones and Walker to the Yankees for one of their few top prospects. Walker might help now that Cano is injured. Both of them being lefties would look good in Yankee Stadium.

[Balsa]

How about Jones and Walker to the Yankees for one of their few top prospects. Walker might help now that Cano is injured. Both of them being lefties would look good in Yankee Stadium.

Cano is injured? This is a great opportunity then.

 

I really like TWalk, and I'll miss him, but it's pretty clear we aren't going anywhere this season and Hendry doesn't like him. It'll be difficult to lose one of the players that can actually work the count.

 

Anyway, it'd be great for Hendry to jump on this and get some good stuff.

[RyCubsFan]

How bout Jones and Williamson to the Yanks for Phil Hughes?

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/26/sports/baseball/26hughes.html

[Neuby]

thats funny that Royals offered Reggie Sanders for Hughes. I know Jones and Willamson won't be enough to get Hughes. If Willamson had been healthy all year then maybe. If Maddux gets hot and would accept a deal to the Yankees I am sure big George would love to get the him. If Cano is out for an extended period of time then maybe Walker will interest him but it will take a pretty large package from the Cubs to get a guy like Hughes. For the record I am all for it.

[davearm]

How about we offer a package of vets (pick and choose from Walker, Williamson, Dempster, Jones, Pierre, Nevin), plus a young arm (one of Marshall, Guz, Hill, Marmol) for Hughes and Tabata?

 

Maybe if they're getting a young, ML-ready starter with a lower ceiling than Hughes', that makes it more doable. Plus Jones and Dempster are more than just rentals.

[frostwyrm]

$2.5M per year over 2 years is nothing to the Yanks so it might be possible to package Neifi with Jones.

[Magnetic Curses]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

 

i'm far more concerned with his IsoD, actually.

 

as for his arm, i tend to side with the earl weaver argument: outfield arm strength shouldn't generally matter, always keep the second runner from advancing into scoring position to stay out of the big inning. this philosophy doesn't work with a runner at third, less than two out and no one else on, but even the best arms are going to have trouble with a deep enough fly, and the runners won't score on shallow flies.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

 

i'm far more concerned with his IsoD, actually.

 

as for his arm, i tend to side with the earl weaver argument: outfield arm strength shouldn't generally matter, always keep the second runner from advancing into scoring position to stay out of the big inning. this philosophy doesn't work with a runner at third, less than two out and no one else on, but even the best arms are going to have trouble with a deep enough fly, and the runners won't score on shallow flies.

 

I expected his IsoD to stink and if he could have his batting average stay around 280 to 300 I'd be fine with him...not thrilled but ok.

 

As for arms you can't have runners taking extra bases all the time. I understand what you're saying but if I know someone suscribes to that theory I'm running at will. And believe me....will hates it when I do that.

[Magnetic Curses]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

 

i'm far more concerned with his IsoD, actually.

 

as for his arm, i tend to side with the earl weaver argument: outfield arm strength shouldn't generally matter, always keep the second runner from advancing into scoring position to stay out of the big inning. this philosophy doesn't work with a runner at third, less than two out and no one else on, but even the best arms are going to have trouble with a deep enough fly, and the runners won't score on shallow flies.

 

I expected his IsoD to stink and if he could have his batting average stay around 280 to 300 I'd be fine with him...not thrilled but ok.

 

As for arms you can't have runners taking extra bases all the time. I understand what you're saying but if I know someone suscribes to that theory I'm running at will. And believe me....will hates it when I do that.

 

all i'm saying is that it worked pretty well for weaver, not everyone ran on his outfielders all the time.

 

in baseball, over a 162 game season, prudency is probably the best option.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would be fine with Jones if he kept these type numbers and he could play defense but I don't like his arm and glove at all. His glove is average and his arm is far below average. I'd swear I read he was good on D.

 

i'm far more concerned with his IsoD, actually.

 

as for his arm, i tend to side with the earl weaver argument: outfield arm strength shouldn't generally matter, always keep the second runner from advancing into scoring position to stay out of the big inning. this philosophy doesn't work with a runner at third, less than two out and no one else on, but even the best arms are going to have trouble with a deep enough fly, and the runners won't score on shallow flies.

 

I expected his IsoD to stink and if he could have his batting average stay around 280 to 300 I'd be fine with him...not thrilled but ok.

 

As for arms you can't have runners taking extra bases all the time. I understand what you're saying but if I know someone suscribes to that theory I'm running at will. And believe me....will hates it when I do that.

 

all i'm saying is that it worked pretty well for weaver, not everyone ran on his outfielders all the time.

 

in baseball, over a 162 game season, prudency is probably the best option.

 

Weaver also had the horses. If you have Palmer, McNally, Cueller and Dobson or another good pitcher you can go and just get the outs like that. I want OF guys that can throw hard and keep it low enough to cut.

 

I've been watching the Cubs too long and it hurts my brain when it comes to fundamentals so anything working would be better.