Barrett's Suspension Up Held-10 Games

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If we're punching Astros, let's get Oswalt first.

[OleMissCub]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

[srbin84]

If we're punching Astros, let's get Oswalt first.

 

I'd rather bean him. Also, preferably by Zambrano.

[OleMissCub]

If we're punching Astros, let's get Oswalt first.

 

I'd rather bean him. Also, preferably by Zambrano.

 

He's not a bad guy, just a big country hick from the hills (actually, from the same place Oprah is from). I met him once at a baseball camp when I was 15 playing legion ball. He had just got drafted around that time. He pitched to some of us during that camp and man, that dude has a sick sick curve. He was only like 19 or 20 at the time.

[K-Town]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

 

That's funny! (The 1st & 2nd basemen fighting).

[Garwilly]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

 

That's funny! (The 1st & 2nd basemen fighting).

 

Reminds me of Major League 3 (lets not even start that debate) when the twin brothers played 2nd and Short.

[srbin84]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

 

That's funny! (The 1st & 2nd basemen fighting).

 

Reminds me of Major League 3 (lets not even start that debate) when the twin brothers played 2nd and Short.

 

Was that "Back to the Minors"....or am I thinking of the 4th one?

[Andy]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

 

That's funny! (The 1st & 2nd basemen fighting).

 

Reminds me of Major League 3 (lets not even start that debate) when the twin brothers played 2nd and Short.

 

Was that "Back to the Minors"....or am I thinking of the 4th one?

I wasn't aware there was a fourth one.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

 

That's funny! (The 1st & 2nd basemen fighting).

 

Reminds me of Major League 3 (lets not even start that debate) when the twin brothers played 2nd and Short.

 

Was that "Back to the Minors"....or am I thinking of the 4th one?

I wasn't aware there was a fourth one.

 

Must be thinking of Hillary Swank in "The Next Karate Kid".

[cubfan1955]

I just hope a Cub sucker punches Edmonds the next time we play the Cardinals. It adds excitement to an otherwise dismal season.

 

Might as well get them all suspended. They might be better then.

LOL...it might be kind of neat to get about 15 guys suspended at the same time and see them play with 10 players. I'd bet they couldn't do worse than the month of May. :lol:

[Mark Priors Calves]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

There was a brawl between the Yankees and Red Sox back in the '70's, I want to say. The benches cleared and some punching were thrown and it was over a catcher getting plowed over at the plate. One of the Yankees' pitcher's separated his shoulder and was dangling down by his side. Pretty ugly.

[jjgman21]

I don't understand how everyone thinks MLB suspensions are inconsistent.

 

Kerry Wood get suspended more than anyone ever for throwing at a batter, even though it was obviously unintentional (IIRC). his appeal is denied.

 

Moises Alou gets suspended more than any batter ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

LaTroy Hawkins get suspended more than any relief pitcher ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

Michael Barrett get suspended more than any player ever for fighting. his appeal is denied.

 

 

edit: one more thing. with both Wood and Barrett, the league took exceptionally long to issue their decision on the appeal, when prompt decisions would really have helped the Cubs out.

it's all very consistent.

[YearofDaCubs]

If we're punching Astros, let's get Oswalt first.

 

I'd rather bean him. Also, preferably by Zambrano.

 

He's not a bad guy, just a big country hick from the hills (actually, from the same place Oprah is from). I met him once at a baseball camp when I was 15 playing legion ball. He had just got drafted around that time. He pitched to some of us during that camp and man, that dude has a sick sick curve. He was only like 19 or 20 at the time.

I like Ole Miss already and I have never been there :)

[srbin84]

 

Never (that I'm aware of) has there been a punch thrown because of it. Therefore, AJ surely couldn't have expected a punch to be thrown. Therefore, I call it a sucker-punch..

 

That's an enormously bold thing to say. I'm sure there is alot more that you and I don't know about as opposed to what we DO know about. I played organized baseball for 16 years and in that time, I saw fights occur over every possible thing imaginable. I've even seen a fight between a 1B and a 2B because the 1B thought that the 2b had thrown the ball too hard to him on a ground out.

 

I have no problem with suspending Barrett, but 10 games is a ton.

 

 

That's funny! (The 1st & 2nd basemen fighting).

 

Reminds me of Major League 3 (lets not even start that debate) when the twin brothers played 2nd and Short.

 

Was that "Back to the Minors"....or am I thinking of the 4th one?

I wasn't aware there was a fourth one.

 

Then that must be back to the minors. I wasn't sure if there were 3 or 4...I didn't really like the second and third. That Japanese guy was really [expletive] annoying in the second.

[CubsBullsBears]

I don't understand how everyone thinks MLB suspensions are inconsistent.

 

Kerry Wood get suspended more than anyone ever for throwing at a batter, even though it was obviously unintentional (IIRC). his appeal is denied.

 

Moises Alou gets suspended more than any batter ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

LaTroy Hawkins get suspended more than any relief pitcher ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

Michael Barrett get suspended more than any player ever for fighting. his appeal is denied.

 

 

edit: one more thing. with both Wood and Barrett, the league took exceptionally long to issue their decision on the appeal, when prompt decisions would really have helped the Cubs out.

it's all very consistent.

 

Wood got suspended for "inciting the fans to throw trash on the field" when he got in an umpires face. LaTiolet got suspended for going after an umpire and needing 5 coaches to restrain him. Alou was never suspended. And if I was Barrett, after Ken Williams' comments, I'd have appealed, and then dropped it when the Tigers series started.

[Andy]

I don't understand how everyone thinks MLB suspensions are inconsistent.

 

Kerry Wood get suspended more than anyone ever for throwing at a batter, even though it was obviously unintentional (IIRC). his appeal is denied.

 

Moises Alou gets suspended more than any batter ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

LaTroy Hawkins get suspended more than any relief pitcher ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

Michael Barrett get suspended more than any player ever for fighting. his appeal is denied.

 

 

edit: one more thing. with both Wood and Barrett, the league took exceptionally long to issue their decision on the appeal, when prompt decisions would really have helped the Cubs out.

it's all very consistent.

 

Wood got suspended for "inciting the fans to throw trash on the field" when he got in an umpires face. LaTiolet got suspended for going after an umpire and needing 5 coaches to restrain him. Alou was never suspended. And if I was Barrett, after Ken Williams' comments, I'd have appealed, and then dropped it when the Tigers series started.

Well he never did play against any other ALC team, so it turned out that way anyway

[CubsBullsBears]

I don't understand how everyone thinks MLB suspensions are inconsistent.

 

Kerry Wood get suspended more than anyone ever for throwing at a batter, even though it was obviously unintentional (IIRC). his appeal is denied.

 

Moises Alou gets suspended more than any batter ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

LaTroy Hawkins get suspended more than any relief pitcher ever for arguing with an umpire. his appeal is denied.

 

Michael Barrett get suspended more than any player ever for fighting. his appeal is denied.

 

 

edit: one more thing. with both Wood and Barrett, the league took exceptionally long to issue their decision on the appeal, when prompt decisions would really have helped the Cubs out.

it's all very consistent.

 

Wood got suspended for "inciting the fans to throw trash on the field" when he got in an umpires face. LaTiolet got suspended for going after an umpire and needing 5 coaches to restrain him. Alou was never suspended. And if I was Barrett, after Ken Williams' comments, I'd have appealed, and then dropped it when the Tigers series started.

Well he never did play against any other ALC team, so it turned out that way anyway

I know. But I'm saying that I'd have appealed with the hope of getting thru to the Tigers series, and then regardless drop the appeal then and serve right away.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

So the Cubs aren't going to call up Soto or Reyes? Blanco is going to catch 10 straight games and Nevin will be his backup? Wow.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

So the Cubs aren't going to call up Soto or Reyes? Blanco is going to catch 10 straight games and Nevin will be his backup? Wow.

 

Not only do we not have a true backup, they're both playing at the same time.

[bc2k]

What did Farns get after piledriving that dude for no reason last year?

 

6 games.

 

So a part-time player (pitcher) gets 6 games for running around 50 already fighting individuals to piledrive someone for no apparent reason and gets only 6 games. An everyday player punches a guy who just ran him over and gets 10 games.

 

That was a fight, though. If the "dude" was out there in the middle of a fight, he at least had the opportunity to defend himself......... or should have.

 

Barrett sucker-punched a guy who had no reason to expect it, and was completely defenseless. To me, there's a difference.

 

Besides, at least Farnsworth's assault was effective. :lol:

 

I don't even know what most of that means. The "dude" Farnsworth piledrived was not in the middle of a fight, and even if he was, it does not make the actions any more right than what Barrett did. Pierwhatshisface had more opportunity to defend himself as the "dude" did. Maybe you didn't see the Farns in action, I don't know. I'm not going to argue semantics on whether or not it was a sucker punch, but when words are exchanged face-to-face and one ends up getting punched, I do not consider that a sucker punch.

 

I do not condone Barrett's behavior, and I think he should be suspended, but 10 games is a bit harsh in my opinion when conjuring up memories of suspensions past.

 

AJ didn't say anything to Barrett after the collision. It was Barrett who said something like, "I didn't have the ball, [expletive]" right before he punched AJP.

 

Also, the Reds pitcher, Paul Wilson, made a move towards the pitchers' mound, so that was a mutual fight. AJP did not even make eye contact with Barrett after the play at the plate.

 

I'm not defending AJ, I just had to clarify your inaccurate post.

[NCCubFan]

So the Cubs aren't going to call up Soto or Reyes? Blanco is going to catch 10 straight games and Nevin will be his backup? Wow.

My understanding is that, if Blanco were injured, Nevin would move behind the plate for the rest of that game and Soto or Reyes would be called up for the next game.

[Sammy Sofa]

AJ didn't say anything to Barrett after the collision. It was Barrett who said something like, "I didn't have the ball, [expletive]" right before he punched AJP.

 

Yeah, he was too busy elbowing Barrett in the head as he was trying to get up.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

AJ didn't say anything to Barrett after the collision. It was Barrett who said something like, "I didn't have the ball, [expletive]" right before he punched AJP.

 

Also, the Reds pitcher, Paul Wilson, made a move towards the pitchers' mound, so that was a mutual fight. AJP did not even make eye contact with Barrett after the play at the plate.

 

I'm not defending AJ, I just had to clarify your inaccurate post.

 

I wasn't talking about Paul Wilson. And check the video, AJ's lips were moving.

[Chocolate Milk]

What did Farns get after piledriving that dude for no reason last year?

 

6 games.

 

So a part-time player (pitcher) gets 6 games for running around 50 already fighting individuals to piledrive someone for no apparent reason and gets only 6 games. An everyday player punches a guy who just ran him over and gets 10 games.

 

That was a fight, though. If the "dude" was out there in the middle of a fight, he at least had the opportunity to defend himself......... or should have.

 

Barrett sucker-punched a guy who had no reason to expect it, and was completely defenseless. To me, there's a difference.

 

Besides, at least Farnsworth's assault was effective. :lol:

 

I don't even know what most of that means. The "dude" Farnsworth piledrived was not in the middle of a fight, and even if he was, it does not make the actions any more right than what Barrett did. Pierwhatshisface had more opportunity to defend himself as the "dude" did. Maybe you didn't see the Farns in action, I don't know. I'm not going to argue semantics on whether or not it was a sucker punch, but when words are exchanged face-to-face and one ends up getting punched, I do not consider that a sucker punch.

 

I do not condone Barrett's behavior, and I think he should be suspended, but 10 games is a bit harsh in my opinion when conjuring up memories of suspensions past.

 

AJ didn't say anything to Barrett after the collision. It was Barrett who said something like, "I didn't have the ball, [expletive]" right before he punched AJP.

 

Also, the Reds pitcher, Paul Wilson, made a move towards the pitchers' mound, so that was a mutual fight. AJP did not even make eye contact with Barrett after the play at the plate.

 

I'm not defending AJ, I just had to clarify your inaccurate post.

 

There are no inaccuracies in his post. You aren't even addressing the correct Farnsworth incident.

 

He's correct. In no way was it a sucker punch. AJP obviously didn't expect it. That's his fault not Barrett's. A punch being unexpected doesn't make it a sucker punch. He was face to face with Barrett and he had the opportunity to see it coming. By some people's definitions here I guess the first punch thrown in every single fight is a sucker punch unless there is some West Side Story square off or someone yells "PREPARE YOURSELF! PUNCH INCOMING!"

 

I know this wont convince the various Cardinals trolls (Not you bc2k) , but it's the truth.

[K-Town]

He's correct. In no way was it a sucker punch. AJP obviously didn't expect it. That's his fault not Barrett's. A punch being unexpected doesn't make it a sucker punch. He was face to face with Barrett and he had the opportunity to see it coming. By some people's definitions here I guess the first punch thrown in every single fight is a sucker punch unless there is some West Side Story square off or someone yells "PREPARE YOURSELF! PUNCH INCOMING!"

 

I know this wont convince the various Cardinals trolls (Not you bc2k) , but it's the truth.

 

 

If a guy isn't given an opportunity to defend himself, then it's a sucker-punch, in my opinion. Any of us can walk up to a guy and punch him in the face. Heck, my sister could do it, if the guy didn't know it was coming (and she'd likely at least knock the guy down or leave a mark....... unlike Barrett's love-tap).