Why Furcal turned down the Cubs

[Banedon]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere...I haven't seen it if it was....from Barry Rozner's column in the Daily Herald today...

 

The Dodgers’ Rafael Furcal told Sports Illustrated that he turned down the Cubs’ offer because they asked for a clause in his contract that would void the deal if he were convicted of another drunken-driving offense, since he has had two in the last four years.

 

Said Furcal to SI, “I’ve learned. I don’t need (a clause) in my contract. Think about it: Who has more to lose, the team or me?’’

 

On the surface, that doesn’t seem like an unreasonable request from a team offering as much as five years and $57 million. Furcal took three years and $39 million from Los Angeles.

 

I really find it hard to blame the Cubs if that's true.

[minnesotacubsfan]

no kidding. + @ $10 mill a year, couldnt he get his cuz (or someone) to drive him arouond if he cant stop the sauce???

[Derwood]

I think we could categorize Furcal as being a tad unreasonable here.

 

Hendry: "We're willing to offer you $57 million over 5 years. It's guaranteed money, even when Gene Clines turns you into a .210 hitter. All we ask is that you don't get tanked and crash your beemer."

Furcal: "No deal!"

[Stu]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere...I haven't seen it if it was....from Barry Rozner's column in the Daily Herald today...

 

The Dodgers’ Rafael Furcal told Sports Illustrated that he turned down the Cubs’ offer because they asked for a clause in his contract that would void the deal if he were convicted of another drunken-driving offense, since he has had two in the last four years.

 

Said Furcal to SI, “I’ve learned. I don’t need (a clause) in my contract. Think about it: Who has more to lose, the team or me?’’

 

On the surface, that doesn’t seem like an unreasonable request from a team offering as much as five years and $57 million. Furcal took three years and $39 million from Los Angeles.

 

I really find it hard to blame the Cubs if that's true.

 

Especialaly since a similar record might preclude any of us regular joes from getting a regular $40,000 a year job in the first place.

[Abe Frohman]

 

Hendry: "We're willing to offer you $57 million over 5 years. It's guaranteed money, even when Gene Clines turns you into a .210 hitter. All we ask is that you don't get tanked and crash your beemer."

Furcal: "No deal!"

 

That's hilarious.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Good riddance.

[BeerHere]

Buh-bye

 

 

Drunken fool

[Balsa]

Good riddance.

 

Amen. Drunky McStagger can take his errors elsewhere.

[rocket]

he should have turned it down even without the clause, because he's nowhere near worth the money the cubs offered

[brinoch]

Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere...I haven't seen it if it was....from Barry Rozner's column in the Daily Herald today...

 

The Dodgers’ Rafael Furcal told Sports Illustrated that he turned down the Cubs’ offer because they asked for a clause in his contract that would void the deal if he were convicted of another drunken-driving offense, since he has had two in the last four years.

 

Said Furcal to SI, “I’ve learned. I don’t need (a clause) in my contract. Think about it: Who has more to lose, the team or me?’’

 

On the surface, that doesn’t seem like an unreasonable request from a team offering as much as five years and $57 million. Furcal took three years and $39 million from Los Angeles.

 

I really find it hard to blame the Cubs if that's true.

 

Agreed. I'm glad that Hendry wanted to insert that clause, both because Furcal would be horribly overpaid, and since character is important.

[TB_11]

Given that Furcal would have played 81 games a year in Wrigleyville, with many day games, it's not a bad clause for Hendry to try to get into the contract.

[Careless]

I can't believe he admitted that

[Banedon]

I can't believe he admitted that

 

I thought this as well. It only looks bad on him.

[DivineBovine]

Well, Furcal saved Hendry from himself. Another toolsy player who can't hit seem to hit worth squat now. Good one Jim.

 

And we kept hearing he wanted to unload Todd Walker. A middle infielder who can actually hit.

[Soul]

Well, Furcal saved Hendry from himself. Another toolsy player who can't hit seem to hit worth squat now. Good one Jim.

 

And we kept hearing he wanted to unload Todd Walker. A middle infielder who can actually hit.

 

Furcal in May:

Avg    OBP    SLG    OPS
.311   .366   .429   .795 

 

Cedeno in May:

Avg    OBP    SLG    OPS
.276   .294   .305   .598

 

Furcal has picked it up considerably, he's hitting fine. To say he can't hit now is just false.

 

Ronny's OBP is atrocious. His OBP/Avg difference is so small because he only walked three times in 105 ABs last month. I know he's young, but he could probably have benefitted from more instruction. Furcal would have been a good ballplayer on this team. Too bad Hendry and he couldn't agree.

[Big Fergie J]

Given that Furcal would have played 81 games a year in Wrigleyville, with many day games, it's not a bad clause for Hendry to try to get into the contract.

 

Very, very valid point.

[srbin84]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

[CubinNY]

Well, Furcal saved Hendry from himself. Another toolsy player who can't hit seem to hit worth squat now. Good one Jim.

 

And we kept hearing he wanted to unload Todd Walker. A middle infielder who can actually hit.

 

I am on record NOT wanting Furcal in the worst way. He is one of the most over-rated players in baseball. And that is saying something.

[Shilzzz]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

 

i don't think it was about whether or not he was going to jail and if they would have to pay the three days he would stay there, but rather more about the potential black eye on the organization that sort of incedent would cause, and the effect throughout the whole ballclub as a result of that.

[Andy]

he should have turned it down even without the clause, because he's nowhere near worth the money the cubs offered

Paging Neifi, Glendon, and Pierre...

[srbin84]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

 

i don't think it was about whether or not he was going to jail and if they would have to pay the three days he would stay there, but rather more about the potential black eye on the organization that sort of incedent would cause, and the effect throughout the whole ballclub as a result of that.

 

Oh, well, I guess I just didn't think the rest of the team would get really emotional over it. Did it hurt Atlanta's record? I can't recall.

[Banedon]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

 

i don't think it was about whether or not he was going to jail and if they would have to pay the three days he would stay there, but rather more about the potential black eye on the organization that sort of incedent would cause, and the effect throughout the whole ballclub as a result of that.

 

Oh, well, I guess I just didn't think the rest of the team would get really emotional over it. Did it hurt Atlanta's record? I can't recall.

 

We don't exactly have Bobby Cox and John Scherholtz, do we? :P

[RonnieWooWooSanto]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

 

i don't think it was about whether or not he was going to jail and if they would have to pay the three days he would stay there, but rather more about the potential black eye on the organization that sort of incedent would cause, and the effect throughout the whole ballclub as a result of that.

 

 

If he had to go to court for another DUI, I think that could play out longer than three days in jail. A judge could recognize that it was his third time and then the only way for him to learn would be a significant period of jail time. That could be a couple of months maybe even longer depending on the judge.

[YearofDaCubs]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

 

i don't think it was about whether or not he was going to jail and if they would have to pay the three days he would stay there, but rather more about the potential black eye on the organization that sort of incedent would cause, and the effect throughout the whole ballclub as a result of that.

 

 

If he had to go to court for another DUI, I think that could play out longer than three days in jail. A judge could recognize that it was his third time and then the only way for him to learn would be a significant period of jail time. That could be a couple of months maybe even longer depending on the judge.

Here's the info for Illinois law:

 

Third DUI Conviction - Class 4 felony

 

Minimum six-year loss of full driving privileges.

Possible imprisonment for up to three years.

Maximum fine of $10,000.

[srbin84]

How would a DUI affect his play though? Would he go to jail if he got another? I doubt teams have to pay their players when they are in jail anyway.

 

i don't think it was about whether or not he was going to jail and if they would have to pay the three days he would stay there, but rather more about the potential black eye on the organization that sort of incedent would cause, and the effect throughout the whole ballclub as a result of that.

 

 

If he had to go to court for another DUI, I think that could play out longer than three days in jail. A judge could recognize that it was his third time and then the only way for him to learn would be a significant period of jail time. That could be a couple of months maybe even longer depending on the judge.

Here's the info for Illinois law:

 

Third DUI Conviction - Class 4 felony

 

Minimum six-year loss of full driving privileges.

Possible imprisonment for up to three years.

Maximum fine of $10,000.

 

And the celebrity with good lawyer penalty?