Minor League Discussion & Boxes 5-14-2006

[Outshined_One]

Happy Mother's Day everyone!

 

Box Scores

 

Iowa lost 6-0 Box Score

 

CF F. Pie 0/4

CF B. Coats 2/4

LF M. Restovich 1/4, 2B (7), K

2B M. Fontenot 1/3, BB

1B B. Sing 0/3

SP J. Williams 4.1 IP, 12 H, 6 ER, 2/2 KBB, 6-3 GO-FO

RP M. Wuertz 1 perfect, 2/0 K/BB, 1-0 GO-FO

 

West Tenn lost 2-1 Box Score

 

2B E. Patterson 2/4, 2 K, SB (13), PO, E (5, fielding)

CF N. Jackson 1/4, 2B (6)

RF L. Montanez 1/4, R, K

1B M. Hoffpauir 1/4

PR C. Walker 0/0, SB (14)

3B S. Moore 2/4, K

LF R. Lewis 1/4, 2B (7), RBI, K

SP C. Shaver 7 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 4/3 K/BB, 8-9 GO-FO

 

Daytona with an off day.

 

Peoria won 5-1 Box Score

 

SS J. Mota 4/5, RBI, 2B (1), K

RF J. Valdez 1/5, R

1B R. Norwood 1/4, RBI, HBP

3B M. Reed 2/3, BB, 2 R, RBI, 2B (3)

C J. Muyco 1/5, K

SP D. Veal 5.2 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 9/3 K/BB, 3-4 GO-FO

 

OVERALL: 1-2

Edited May 14, 2006 by Outshined_One

[ChiefsVoice]

The rainouts have forced the Chiefs to juggle their starting rotation. Here is how it stands now:

 

Today: LH Donnie Veal vs. LH Ryan Schreppel

Mon: RH Scott Taylor vs. RH Eduardo Baeza

Tues: RH Todd Blackford at home vs West Michigan TBD

Wed: LH Jesus Yepez at home vs West Michigan TBD

Thu: RH Mitch Atkins at home vs West Michigan TBD

 

Repeat...

 

also, Kevin Collins re-injured his quad last night in game 1 running out a double and is out and Dylan Johnston re-injured his left thumb.And Davy Gregg is sick also needless to say we are alightly shorthanded here today...

Edited May 14, 2006 by ChiefsVoice

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Probable Starters:

 

Iowa: RHP Jerome Williams (0-2, 5.00 ERA, 18 IP, 5/6) @ RHP Kasey Olenberger (2-0, 2.91 ERA)

West Tenn: LHP Chris Shaver (2-1, 2.54 ERA, 28.1 IP, 27/8) @ RHP Jim Magrane (5-2, 2.76 ERA)

Peoria: LHP Donnie Veal (2-2, 2.64 ERA, 30.2 IP, 35/20) vs. LHP Ryan Schreppel (1-3. 4.86 ERA)

 

Thanks for the update, Nathan! Poor Dylan.

[karenmac]

Ack! That's not good at all. It's too bad for Collins too, he was just starting to really hit again. Nothing like cold weather to bring out the injuries. :(

 

Hopefully whatever laid Davy up won't be too prolonged and we'll be able to get him back in the line-up soon.

 

We'll be listening - at least I'll know what's up with the lineups now.

 

Go Chiefs!

Karen

[Flames24Rulz]

Williams has already allowed 2 first inning runs in Des Moines. Two 1 out singles and then a double steal led to a 2 run RBI single for Salt Lake.

 

Peoria down 1-0 in the 3rd.

[Flames24Rulz]

Williams is getting rocked through 4.

 

4 IP, 9 hits, 5 runs all of them earned, 2 walks, and 2 K's. His ERA at Iowa is now up to 6.14.

 

Peoria tied at 1 in the 6th.

 

West Tenn doesn't score in the top half of the 1st. EPatt had another hit though. His AVG is up to .299 :)

[Flames24Rulz]

Jerome's day, mercifully, comes to an end.

 

4 1/3 IP, 12 hits, 6 earned runs, 2 walks, 2 K's all in 80 pitches. His ERA is up to 6.45 now. Pretty awful game today from Williams.

[Flames24Rulz]

Chiefs win 5-1. Veal, Avery, and Koerber combine for a 4 hitter.

[NCCubFan]

The Don! (Beat Slugger to it. :D )

[Slugger_16]

The Don! (Beat Slugger to it. :D )

 

No no no, you've got it all wrong. You've got to say it with some excitement.

 

THE DON!!

[Flames24Rulz]

Jaxx lose 2-1 :(

[NCCubFan]

The Don! (Beat Slugger to it. :D )

 

No no no, you've got it all wrong. You've got to say it with some excitement.

 

 

THE DON!!

THE DON!!!!!

 

How's that? :D

[sporrer17]

Mark Reed playing some 3b today, huh? Not bad to see. I hope that's more of them just needing him in the lineup with the injuries more than him not playing C due to lack of skill back there...

[YearofDaCubs]

Numbers wise, Veal looks like he has been pitching very good. Have you guys seen him pitch? How has he looked?

[RyCubsFan]

With all the attn that Hoffpauir, Jackson, and Montanez are getting, Moore and Patterson are quietly having very solid years. EPatt's hitting .300 now, and Moore is just a notch below that, while walking more and showing good power.

 

Reed at 3rd? I wonder what that's about.

 

How hard does Chris Shaver throw? What is his stuff like? He's having a very good season.

[craig]

..Moore and Patterson are quietly having very solid years. EPatt's hitting .300 now, and Moore is just a notch below that, while walking more and showing good power.

 

Both of those guys have good overall hitting numbers. Both are way down in walks, relative to last year. Last year both were strong plus walkers/Iso-D guys, this year both have regressed to mediocre/sub-average in terms of patience. However, both are K'ing a ton, so they probably can't afford to be patient enough to allow even more 2-strike counts. Hopefully they'll make progress in their hitting, and that will enable them to be a little more patient again down the line?

 

..How hard does Chris Shaver throw? What is his stuff like? He's having a very good season.

 

I've gotten a couple of reports on hiim, one from a former college pitcher who scouted him in spring, and another from a fan who saw his WTenn debut and then saw him pitch again a couple starts ago. The pitcher who saw him in spring was very impresses with his stuff, said he kept the ball down in the brief sample that he saw, but had tons of movement on his fastball. Said his breaking pitch look pretty good too. Said he threw with a relatively low arm-slot, which made him project very nicely as a situational lefty reliever who might be tough on lefty hitters. Said he looked to have a nice, balanced, repeatable delivery. The guy who saw two of his games was unimpressed in the first, but said he looked a lot better the second time he pitched.

 

What's common from all three of those scoutings was that he does *not* throw very hard. The spring training scout said he didn't think he hit 90, upper 80's instead. The game scout said he didn't touch 90 all night the first time he saw him; the 2nd time he threw a little harder, a maxed at 90 a couple of pitches during the game. But it seems a given that we're looking at a guy who's going to pitch in the 80's, and will depend on movement and keeping the ball down rather than on velocity.

 

Still, as we've seen so clearly with marshall versus Guzman, an 88 mph fastball with movement at the knees is a lot more useful than a 95-mph fastball without much movement that's up in the zone.

 

Shaver does not have a record of much success, or of notable control. So I think it remains to be seen whether the ability to throw the ball with enough movement to induce lots of groundouts, but at the same time throw it with enough command to keep it down in the zone and still keep it in the zone, we'll see whether that's something that he'll be able to sustain. So far he's been fantastic this season, that's for sure.

 

As I think you already know he's not at all young, will turn 25 this August. His pro numbers entering the year are overall very humdrum (1.36 WHIP, 3.8 ERA, 6K/9, 4walks/9), and his college record was even worse, where he was kind of a swing-man, with a 5.4 ERA as a college senior who was nearing 23 years old.

 

If Shaver is good now, at 24-almost-25, it's because he's good now, not because of any historic record of excellence! If he turns out good, it will be a chalk-it-up to the scouting side. I don't think there's anything from his Saber history that would have suggested anything good entering this season.

[karenmac]

Mark Reed playing some 3b today, huh? Not bad to see. I hope that's more of them just needing him in the lineup with the injuries more than him not playing C due to lack of skill back there...

 

Jake and Mark trade off games at C, and it just happened to be Mark's day off, so I don't think it's lack of skill at C at all...from the way Nathan was talking during the broadcast, the Chiefs were having some issues. Kyle Reynolds came out in the 3rd for "dry eyes"

http://www.peoriachiefs.com/news/?id=5794

 

It sounded like they were completely out of position players on the bench after Mark went in...hopefully everyone will be feeling better today.

 

Go Chiefs!

Karen

[RyCubsFan]

Very interesting post about Shaver, Craig. Thanks.