Hendry & his minor league track record

[Wilson A2000]

How long has he been with this organization? The SCORE was commentating on how few Cub everyday players have panned out. Let's see:

 

Dunston

Grace

Carter

 

They said that Cedeno looks good but the Cubs have aterrible track record in the area. Much of the blame should go to Jim Hendry. I think the organization as a whole has a bad hitting philosophy.

[Neuby]

Palmerio

[Wilson A2000]

Oh yes he was the fourth. They couldn't think of any others since 1983.

[rocket]

Just because Shawon Dunston played a lot I wouldn't say he panned out.

 

.269/.296/.416 for his career. Yikes.

[daske17]

Just because Shawon Dunston played a lot I wouldn't say he panned out.

 

.269/.296/.416 for his career. Yikes.

 

In Dunston's defense, the Shawn-O-Meter is in the Smithsonian.

 

I can't imagine Neifi having anything put in America's attic like that, unless you want to include his latest contract as an example of the stupidest act in American baseball history.

[Banedon]

Oh yes he was the fourth. They couldn't think of any others since 1983.

 

Brooks Kieschnick (sp?)

Kevin Orie

Bobby Hill

Hee Seop Choi

Corey Patterson

Jason Dubois

 

:P

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Ryan Harvey

Luis Montanez

David Kelton

Quincy Carter

Antwaan Randle El

Ozzie Timmons

Gary Scott

Alex Arias

 

Too depressed to go on...

[Wilson A2000]

Might as well take Kelton out of that list. He has no spot.

[srbin84]

I don't like Hendry and would have fired him in 2005 if I was making the choice, but I'm beginning to think the scouting department is a HUGE part of the problem. Those scouts could have been there for 10, 20 or even 30 years for all we know. That would explain a lot.

[Banedon]

I don't like Hendry and would have fired him in 2005 if I was making the choice, but I'm beginning to think the scouting department is a HUGE part of the problem. Those scouts could have been there for 10, 20 or even 30 years for all we know. That would explain a lot.

 

I could be wrong, and I'm sure someone will have this info better than I, but wasn't Hendry majorly involved in scouting and the farm system prior to becoming GM?

[goonys evil twin]

How long has he been with this organization?

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

 

 

 

This team is entirely of Jim Hendry's making. There is no more "cleaning up others' mess" excuse. He's been a huge part of this organization for over a decade, and in charge for 4 years. Before that he played a crucial role in nearly all personel decisions.

[Banedon]

How long has he been with this organization?

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

 

 

 

This team is entirely of Jim Hendry's making. There is no more "cleaning up others' mess" excuse. He's been a huge part of this organization for over a decade, and in charge for 4 years. Before that he played a crucial role in nearly all personel decisions.

 

Thanks...I didn't know the specifics.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

How long has he been with this organization?

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

 

 

 

This team is entirely of Jim Hendry's making. There is no more "cleaning up others' mess" excuse. He's been a huge part of this organization for over a decade, and in charge for 4 years. Before that he played a crucial role in nearly all personel decisions.

 

Thanks...I didn't know the specifics.

 

Goony did because he is Jim Hendry. :shock:

[Banedon]

How long has he been with this organization?

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

 

 

 

This team is entirely of Jim Hendry's making. There is no more "cleaning up others' mess" excuse. He's been a huge part of this organization for over a decade, and in charge for 4 years. Before that he played a crucial role in nearly all personel decisions.

 

Thanks...I didn't know the specifics.

 

Goony did because he is Jim Hendry. :shock:

 

Goony with some self hate?

[goonys evil twin]

Goony did because he is Jim Hendry. :shock:

 

True.

 

Also I googled Jim Hendry tenure. Fifth listing down gave me [url=http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20060408&content_id=1390030&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc

this press release[/url], which included this quite:

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

[Banedon]

Goony did because he is Jim Hendry. :shock:

 

True.

 

Also I googled Jim Hendry tenure. Fifth listing down gave me this press release, which included this quite:

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

 

You crazy computer geeks.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Goony did because he is Jim Hendry. :shock:

 

True.

 

Also I googled Jim Hendry tenure. Fifth listing down gave me this press release, which included this quite:

 

Hendry originally joined the club as the director of player development in 1994 and was named the scouting director the following year. In 2001, he was promoted to vice president of player personnel.

 

You crazy computer geeks.

 

I totally forgot about the internet. :lol:

[Soul]

Interesting that Hendry likes 'toolsy' players yet his organization doesn't do a good job of developing raw talent at the lower levels. It's not a good combination. If you want to be the guys who develop raw physical skills, then that's great, but you better have the infrastructure to turn them into good ballplayers. We don't have that, at least not for position players.

 

That might explain alot too. Wrong philosophy for the infrastructure we have in place.

 

Of course, the alternate explanation would be that we just stink at developing players period. Right now, I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. The track record is poor.

[RyCubsFan]

Ryan Harvey

Luis Montanez

David Kelton

Quincy Carter

Antwaan Randle El

Ozzie Timmons

Gary Scott

Alex Arias

 

Too depressed to go on...

 

Too early to label Harvey a bust! Montanez has an outside chance of being a decent player yet as well. (But I get and agree with your more general point.)

[Wilson A2000]

Hey who changed my title to this thread? Big brother is watching...

[Outshined_One]

Monty unfortunately qualifies as a bust because he flopped at SS and was not worth the money or the high draft pick it cost to get him. Then again, the first round of the 2000 Draft was absolutely putrid. Utley's the only one on that list who's a lock to be an All Star...the rest is up for grabs.

 

Montanez could still end up as a decent corner OF if he ever adds some power to his stroke. He has a reasonable enough K/BB and IsoD to make it to the majors.

 

As for Harvey, well, just hope that he gets a visit from the OBP Fairy at some point. He's not making good contact and drawing little in the way of walks.

[goonys evil twin]

Ryan Harvey

Luis Montanez

David Kelton

Quincy Carter

Antwaan Randle El

Ozzie Timmons

Gary Scott

Alex Arias

 

Too depressed to go on...

 

Too early to label Harvey a bust! Montanez has an outside chance of being a decent player yet as well. (But I get and agree with your more general point.)

 

Montanez is 24 repeating AA. He's got a career line of .272/.342/.403 and that is only because of the numbers he put up in short season ball at 22 and low A ball at 23. He was a top 3 draft pick and at best, might one day be a 4th OF. He is the very definition of bust.

 

Harvey is not yet a complete bust, but he is a huge disappointment, so far. In his 4th pro year he has yet to do anything to raise an eyebrow. He's off to another awful start. Again, as a top pick, he's pretty close to bust material. He's not even worth anything in trade right now, let alone a potential call-up.

[Larry Horse]

Wow, Hendry's record with minor leaguers is even crappier than I thought.

 

And he gets an extension..........

[Proven Veteran]

Monty unfortunately qualifies as a bust because he flopped at SS and was not worth the money or the high draft pick it cost to get him. Then again, the first round of the 2000 Draft was absolutely putrid. Utley's the only one on that list who's a lock to be an All Star...the rest is up for grabs.

 

The later rounds got better: Grady Sizemore, Dontrelle Willis, Brandon Webb, Edwin Encarnacion, Garrett Atkins, Cliff Lee...

[badgercub]

Plus Hendry passed on a lot of position players early in the drafts deciding to go with pitching pitching pitching.