4/8 Cubs/Dead Birds 1:20 CSN, Z!/Carp

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Cedeno doubled down the left field line

 

Nice way to atone for his mistake. :D

 

how many errors is he going to have at the end of the season (assuming full time duty)?

 

I'd guess 35. I'd be more, but the Wrigley scorer is generous (should have had 1 or 2 yesterday).

 

Why are you so critical of Cedeno?

 

And where is this one or two errors he should have had yesterday? You are referring to his double clutches...your logic doesn't make sense. Wrigley grass slows down the ball, so if it was outside of Wrigley, the ball would have come to him faster and he would have had MORE time to throw, not less.

 

Ronnie is going to be a very good defensive shortstop. He already has one of the best ranges of EVERY shortstop in the majors. He also has a cannon for an arm. he's a rookie...allow his tools to develop.

 

I would say he'll have much less than 35 errors this year.

 

Did you even watch the game? Cedeno did great at the plate and piss poor in the field. That's fine, but his label for a long time was a "glove only man." I expect more from our "slick fielding shortstop."

 

OMG, "one of the best ranges of EVERY shortstop in the majors?" Get real.

 

I agree with him. Cedeno is up there in range, simply by the fact he has long legs and is one of the youngest SS in the league. I'd say only Furcal is clearly above Cedeno in terms of pure range.

 

Show me that data after a full season of playing SS.

 

come on, Lee. fricking ridiculous.

[badger1679666666]

Lee dropping another ball.

 

:shock:

[Fred Hornkohl]

Edmonds stole second and took third base on an muffed pickoff throw, E3

[soccer10k]

Z should have just drilled Edmonds. just to do it. he put him on base anyway.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Oh crap!

[Flames24Rulz]

wow that was ugly.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Cedeno doubled down the left field line

 

Nice way to atone for his mistake. :D

 

how many errors is he going to have at the end of the season (assuming full time duty)?

 

I'd guess 35. I'd be more, but the Wrigley scorer is generous (should have had 1 or 2 yesterday).

 

Why are you so critical of Cedeno?

 

And where is this one or two errors he should have had yesterday? You are referring to his double clutches...your logic doesn't make sense. Wrigley grass slows down the ball, so if it was outside of Wrigley, the ball would have come to him faster and he would have had MORE time to throw, not less.

 

Ronnie is going to be a very good defensive shortstop. He already has one of the best ranges of EVERY shortstop in the majors. He also has a cannon for an arm. he's a rookie...allow his tools to develop.

 

I would say he'll have much less than 35 errors this year.

 

Did you even watch the game? Cedeno did great at the plate and piss poor in the field. That's fine, but his label for a long time was a "glove only man." I expect more from our "slick fielding shortstop."

 

OMG, "one of the best ranges of EVERY shortstop in the majors?" Get real.

 

I did watch the game. And you're jumping on him for TWO double clutches early in the game...both on throws he had a fair amount of time on to complete.

 

Did you watch the game? If so, you have seen the very nice double play that he and Neifi completed. Without Cedeno's arm, the double play is NOT turned.

 

You would have also seen him range WAY out into leftfield on a pop up. And you would have seen him make a half dozen chances (after the first two double clutches) that he handled very smoothly.

 

Even Neifi, who presumeably would want to start at SS everyday, has praise for Cedeno's defense and defensive potential.

 

Stop hatin' on Ronnie just for the sake of it!

 

yup. that's it. i couldn't possibly have an different opinion than yours.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Rolen grounded to short, safe at first on a thorwing error, E6, Edmonds scored

[Vinestal]

What the hell! our defense is sucking badly now. This is horrible

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Cedeno rocks!

[Outshined_One]

This team preached defense and speed in the offseason and spring training.

 

1 out of 2 isn't so bad, right?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

We gave them that run there.

 

Damn!

[RyCubsFan]

Ronnie of all the time! I'm defending you here....!

:cry:

[badger1679666666]

Cedeno rocks!

 

:roll:

 

You seem happy he screwed up. That's cool.

[soccer10k]

We can't just give the Cards runs like this. It's pathetic. What happened on Ronny's throw?

[Andy]

WTF Ronny

[ToupeeOnFire]

Ugh!!!

[Jon]

So what exactly happened on the Lee error?

[Outshined_One]

Cedeno rocks!

 

Just like Lee was awesome for dropping that ball and letting Edmonds take third, right?

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Cedeno rocks!

 

:roll:

 

You seem happy he screwed up. That's cool.

 

It's not like some ppl didn't foresee this. Stick your head in the sand. It doesn't make me happy to be right. :wink:

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Cedeno rocks!

 

Just like Lee was awesome for dropping that ball and letting Edmonds take third, right?

 

yup, and i ripped Lee too. :wink:

[Fred Hornkohl]

Schumaker walked, Rolen to second

[badger1679666666]

So what exactly happened on the Lee error?

 

Cubs had Edmonds picked off, and Lee dropped the throw.

 

Now headcase Z can't find the plate.

[Outshined_One]

It's not like some ppl didn't foresee this. Stick your head in the sand. It doesn't make me happy to be right. :wink:

 

Do you drive a hybrid, out of curiosity?

[Careless]

So what exactly happened on the Lee error?

He wasn't expecting the throw but should have had it, it went through his glove

(carlos should have thrown to second)