Will Hendry attempt to trade for Soriano sometime this year?

[Kyle]

Hendry has wanted Soriano for several years now. I'm not saying I would agree or disagree with a trade for him, but with Walker not exactly on his Christmas card list I think its possible. If this were too happen I hope we don't give up a whole lot. For some reason I just have a feeling Hendry will try and trade for him sometime this year, despite the fact it would appear to be highly remote.

[wade]

I hope Hendry does not trade for him. Soriano has asked for 12 million and the Nationals have countered with 10. That's awful for what he provides, even if you're only paying for half a year.

[Balsa]

Ugh. Soriano just makes me sick. I hope he never sees a Cub uniform.

 

Especially with all this crap about 'I'm not moving to the outfield'. What a jerk.

[Dr. Cub]

I haven't been exactly enamored with the moves Hendry has made, and they have left me scratching my head, but this would take the cake. If Hendry had knowledge that Giles "wouldn't" come to Chicago so didn't bother pursuing him, and yet pursues Soriano even after Soriano has said he's going back to the AL the first chance he can, Hendry is even more incompotent than I thought.

[brinoch]

No thanks. I'd rather keep Walker.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I would take my chances with Soriano if the only available alternative was Neifi. Neifi is much better defensively, but Soriano would be spending a whole lot of time in some pretty good hitters' parks.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

If Soriano made Todd Walker money, or even Bobby Howry money, I might be interested if the cost in players were modest. As bad as he is, he's a better slugger than Walker and he can run, versus the poorer OBP.

 

But at $10MM or, if he wins his arby case (unlikely!) $12MM??? Gimme a break. No one will touch him. As disappointed as I am in so many moves Hendry has made, even he won't go down this path. And Bowden is a real idiot, as if his past moves weren't evident enough.

[CubinNY]

I hope that Hendry recognizes that Soriano is overpaid.

 

Soriano Career, age 30(ish)

 

280/320/500 Salary @ 10 miil/year

 

Walker Career, age 32

 

290/348/441 Salary 2.5 mill/year

 

no brainer.

 

Now if Hendry trades Walker and uses Neife/Hairston I hope Hairston demonstrates he is clearly better then Perez or the Cubs will be in trouble at 2nd.

Edited January 20, 2006 by CubinNY

[Houston_Cub_Fan]

And Soriano isn't exactly a defensive upgrade at 2B either. If he were willing to play OF, I'd say maybe. But his K numbers are CP-like.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I guess Soriano could be a mid-season acquisition , but I doubt before then.

 

His cost in money and prospects right now would be prohibitive.

[soapy]

My guess is either Soriano or Vidro will be traded before the season if Vidro is healthy. Probably sometime during Spring Training so that teams can (sort of) verify that Vidro is in fact healthy.

[Backtobanks]

My guess is either Soriano or Vidro will be traded before the season if Vidro is healthy. Probably sometime during Spring Training so that teams can (sort of) verify that Vidro is in fact healthy.

 

Yea, that's a whole lot of money for 2 second basemen.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

My guess is Vidro will bring more in a trade than Sori once health is established. He's cheaper and signed for longer. Teams will more than likely be willing to give better players for someone they can control for longer.

 

I think it's very clear Soriano intends to test the free agent waters.

[Kyle]

Soriano seems to expensive to me, but if we added prospects that makes its even worse. Say what you will about Hendry, but I don't think its out of the question Hendry would trade for him. If he does I hope we don't give the Nationals any prospects. His salary is to steep already enough.

[CubfaninCA]

The Cubs have plenty of adequate 2 hitters, but no adequate 5 hitter. I'd like to get Soriano, but his price tag appears to be way too expensive.

[goonys evil twin]

The Cubs have plenty of adequate 2 hitters, but no adequate 5 hitter. I'd like to get Soriano, but his price tag appears to be way too expensive.

 

I'm not sure if they have "plenty of adequate 2 hitters", but I agree about the lack of 5 hitters. The problem with Soriano is his price tag in terms of dollars, the amount of talent you'd have to trade to get him, and that he'd be replacing a guy that isn't any worse than him (Walker). And the fact that the Cubs might foolishly extend him to an inflated contract if they do trade for him is another worry. It's just too bad they locked themselves into such poor OF production, because your 5 hitter should come from eithe LF or RF, assuming 1B and 3B are your best guys.

[CubfaninCA]

The Cubs have plenty of adequate 2 hitters, but no adequate 5 hitter. I'd like to get Soriano, but his price tag appears to be way too expensive.

 

I'm not sure if they have "plenty of adequate 2 hitters", but I agree about the lack of 5 hitters. The problem with Soriano is his price tag in terms of dollars, the amount of talent you'd have to trade to get him, and that he'd be replacing a guy that isn't any worse than him (Walker). And the fact that the Cubs might foolishly extend him to an inflated contract if they do trade for him is another worry. It's just too bad they locked themselves into such poor OF production, because your 5 hitter should come from eithe LF or RF, assuming 1B and 3B are your best guys.

 

Murton, Hairston & Cedeno = adequate in my book and it's a lot easier to acquire a 2 hitter than a 5, but I agree he's too expensive for the amount of money & players....

 

I guess there's still a chance for a 5 from LF, as Huff and Floyd could become available. Of course, Murton will have to sit....

[goonys evil twin]

Murton, Hairston & Cedeno = adequate in my book and it's a lot easier to acquire a 2 hitter than a 5,

 

I think those three could be adequate this year in the 2 hole. The problem is none of them are locks, or near locks to put up those numbers, or even get a shot to put up those numbers in the 2 hole.

[CubfaninCA]

Murton, Hairston & Cedeno = adequate in my book and it's a lot easier to acquire a 2 hitter than a 5,

 

I think those three could be adequate this year in the 2 hole. The problem is none of them are locks, or near locks to put up those numbers, or even get a shot to put up those numbers in the 2 hole.

 

It would be a gamble, but I'd prefer to go w/ youth @ the 2 and get a slugger behind the top 2 on base guys, Lee & ARam. I'd be a little nervous about Neifi batting 2 tho...

[goonys evil twin]

Murton, Hairston & Cedeno = adequate in my book and it's a lot easier to acquire a 2 hitter than a 5,

 

I think those three could be adequate this year in the 2 hole. The problem is none of them are locks, or near locks to put up those numbers, or even get a shot to put up those numbers in the 2 hole.

 

It would be a gamble, but I'd prefer to go w/ youth @ the 2 and get a slugger behind the top 2 on base guys, Lee & ARam. I'd be a little nervous about Neifi batting 2 tho...

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm all for one of those three, or a mix of those three getting the 2 spot. And obviously completely against Neifi ever seeing it.

 

My whole hope for this offseason was on getting an adequate middle of the order hitter, so that Lee, Ramirez and X would account for the heart, in whatever order.

[biittner77]

Murton, Hairston & Cedeno = adequate in my book and it's a lot easier to acquire a 2 hitter than a 5,

 

I think those three could be adequate this year in the 2 hole. The problem is none of them are locks, or near locks to put up those numbers, or even get a shot to put up those numbers in the 2 hole.

 

It would be a gamble, but I'd prefer to go w/ youth @ the 2 and get a slugger behind the top 2 on base guys, Lee & ARam. I'd be a little nervous about Neifi batting 2 tho...

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm all for one of those three, or a mix of those three getting the 2 spot. And obviously completely against Neifi ever seeing it.

 

My whole hope for this offseason was on getting an adequate middle of the order hitter, so that Lee, Ramirez and X would account for the heart, in whatever order.

 

If the Cubs did trade for Vidro would you bat him 2nd or 6th? I'm guessing that Jones will bat 5th because he's LH. Could a healthy Vidro conceivably bat 3rd with Lee & Ramirez 4-5?

 

I really hate how we're left hoping that Baker won't bat Perez #2 and that Murton shocks the world and hits 30 HRs. Otherwise the lineup is pretty pathetic.

[Kyle]

This lineup WITHOUT Perez is hardly pathetic. Lee, Walker, Ram, Pierre, Murton, Cedeno, ain't too bad. But the big missing piece is no No. 5 hitter. We need one more big bat in the middle of the lineup to go with Lee and Ram. Which is why I'd love to get Soriano to hit fifth in our lineup if he weren't so damn expensive.

[CubinNY]

Which is why I'd love to get Soriano to hit fifth in our lineup if he weren't so damn expensive.

And crappy

[USSoccer]

Which is why I'd love to get Soriano to hit fifth in our lineup if he weren't so damn expensive.

And crappy

 

and a malcontent.

[CuseCubFan69]

Murton, Hairston & Cedeno = adequate in my book and it's a lot easier to acquire a 2 hitter than a 5,

 

I think those three could be adequate this year in the 2 hole. The problem is none of them are locks, or near locks to put up those numbers, or even get a shot to put up those numbers in the 2 hole.

 

It would be a gamble, but I'd prefer to go w/ youth @ the 2 and get a slugger behind the top 2 on base guys, Lee & ARam. I'd be a little nervous about Neifi batting 2 tho...

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm all for one of those three, or a mix of those three getting the 2 spot. And obviously completely against Neifi ever seeing it.

 

My whole hope for this offseason was on getting an adequate middle of the order hitter, so that Lee, Ramirez and X would account for the heart, in whatever order.

 

If the Cubs did trade for Vidro would you bat him 2nd or 6th? I'm guessing that Jones will bat 5th because he's LH. Could a healthy Vidro conceivably bat 3rd with Lee & Ramirez 4-5?

 

I really hate how we're left hoping that Baker won't bat Perez #2 and that Murton shocks the world and hits 30 HRs. Otherwise the lineup is pretty pathetic.

 

I'd love to have Vidro in the 2 spot as long as the knees were ok. I wonder if he would move to third to save his knees....he used to play there didn't he?