The Portland Marlins?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The Marlins are set to meet with officials in Portland, Oregon next week.

 

Link

 

Marlins president David Samson will travel to Portland on Monday for a one-day visit, team spokesman P.J. Loyello said Friday.

 

Samson will be accompanied by Marlins vice chairman Joel Mael and Claude Delorme, who is in charge of stadium development.

 

The Portland Marlins doesn't have a ring to it. I think if they move, they'll need new colors and mascot, because that teal and black doesn't seem to work there either.

 

Suggestions?

[rocket]

Portland Thorns (it's the city of roses, but roses is too fruity for a baseball team)

[sweetpeteman]

MLB.com

[erik316wttn]

The Marlins are set to meet with officials in Portland, Oregon next week.

 

Link

 

Marlins president David Samson will travel to Portland on Monday for a one-day visit, team spokesman P.J. Loyello said Friday.

 

Samson will be accompanied by Marlins vice chairman Joel Mael and Claude Delorme, who is in charge of stadium development.

 

The Portland Marlins doesn't have a ring to it. I think if they move, they'll need new colors and mascot, because that teal and black doesn't seem to work there either.

 

Suggestions?

 

How would you realign? Kick the Rockies to the Central and the Pirates to the East?

 

How big is the Portland metro area compared to Miami? And would they be able to pull enough fans from the Mariners to compete in that area?

 

With all the rain, it would have to be a retractable-roof stadium.

[BigbadB]

Is this something that might happen for 2006?

[sweetpeteman]

Is this something that might happen for 2006?

 

probably not before the 2007 season at the earliest.

[BigbadB]

The Marlins are set to meet with officials in Portland, Oregon next week.

 

Link

 

Marlins president David Samson will travel to Portland on Monday for a one-day visit, team spokesman P.J. Loyello said Friday.

 

Samson will be accompanied by Marlins vice chairman Joel Mael and Claude Delorme, who is in charge of stadium development.

 

The Portland Marlins doesn't have a ring to it. I think if they move, they'll need new colors and mascot, because that teal and black doesn't seem to work there either.

 

Suggestions?

 

How would you realign? Kick the Rockies to the Central and the Pirates to the East?

 

How big is the Portland metro area compared to Miami? And would they be able to pull enough fans from the Mariners to compete in that area?

 

With all the rain, it would have to be a retractable-roof stadium.

 

I would think that one of the Central teams would move to the East and Colorado stays in the West. Those West Coast teams and the pitching friendly parks balance out the Colorado park. Could you imagine the offense if Colorado joined the NL Central? :shock:

[erik316wttn]

Is this something that might happen for 2006?

 

probably not before the 2007 season at the earliest.

 

And they'd have to find a temporary home for 3 seasons or so while a new stadium is being built.

[erik316wttn]

The Marlins are set to meet with officials in Portland, Oregon next week.

 

Link

 

Marlins president David Samson will travel to Portland on Monday for a one-day visit, team spokesman P.J. Loyello said Friday.

 

Samson will be accompanied by Marlins vice chairman Joel Mael and Claude Delorme, who is in charge of stadium development.

 

The Portland Marlins doesn't have a ring to it. I think if they move, they'll need new colors and mascot, because that teal and black doesn't seem to work there either.

 

Suggestions?

 

How would you realign? Kick the Rockies to the Central and the Pirates to the East?

 

How big is the Portland metro area compared to Miami? And would they be able to pull enough fans from the Mariners to compete in that area?

 

With all the rain, it would have to be a retractable-roof stadium.

 

I would think that one of the Central teams would move to the East and Colorado stays in the West. Those West Coast teams and the pitching friendly parks balance out the Colorado park. Could you imagine the offense if Colorado joined the NL Central? :shock:

 

If baseball would be willing to make the West the 6-team division. I don't know if they would because the AL West is still only 4 teams. I think they'd want to keep the Central at 6.

[BigbadB]

West:

San Diego, Colorado, Arizona, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland

 

Central:

Cubs, Cards, Houston, Milwaukee, Cincinnati

 

East:

Atlanta, Phily, Pittsburgh, Washington, Mets

[erik316wttn]

West:

San Diego, Colorado, Arizona, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland

 

Central:

Cubs, Cards, Houston, Milwaukee, Cincinnati

 

East:

Atlanta, Phily, Pittsburgh, Washington, Mets

 

This is going to open up a whole other can of worms, but that's going to make Interleague Play difficult when it's division vs. division. Central and East would be perfect as each are at 5, but 6 vs. 4 would be hard to do.

 

In the grand scheme of things, it's minor. But I think baseball would take it into consideration and make either the east or the central the 6-team division.

[anemic offense]

I'd like to know where they think they are going to get the money for this. From what I've heard, the economy in the NW (Portland specifically) is extremely (even relative to national standards) weak. Many events are losing longtime sponsors simply because the companies don't have the money, or can't draw enough patrons (because THEY don't have the money) to justify the expense. Then couple this with the fact the Portlant market isn't overly big, and you have yourself a VERY slim margin for success.

 

If the team can establish itself outside the 2-3 year honeymoon period, then maybe it would have a chance to stabilize. But if it doesn't, then Portland will find itslef in the same predicament as the Colorado Rockies, the difference being Denver is much larger. Personally, I see this as a disaster waiting to happen.

[sweetpeteman]

I'd like to know where they think they are going to get the money for this. From what I've heard, the economy in the NW (Portland specifically) is extremely (even relative to national standards) weak. Many events are losing longtime sponsors simply because the companies don't have the money, or can't draw enough patrons (because THEY don't have the money) to justify the expense. Then couple this with the fact the Portlant market isn't overly big, and you have yourself a VERY slim margin for success.

 

If the team can establish itself outside the 2-3 year honeymoon period, then maybe it would have a chance to stabilize. But if it doesn't, then Portland will find itslef in the same predicament as the Colorado Rockies, the difference being Denver is much larger. Personally, I see this as a disaster waiting to happen.

 

You have a good point. I would rather see them in the Carolinas or near Las Vegas. The Carolinas because of the strong baseball roots there, LV due to the size. I know what people say about gambling, but the thing is that gambling happens anyways and a team in LV won't be any more or less likely to have it be a problem.

[erik316wttn]

I'd like to know where they think they are going to get the money for this. From what I've heard, the economy in the NW (Portland specifically) is extremely (even relative to national standards) weak. Many events are losing longtime sponsors simply because the companies don't have the money, or can't draw enough patrons (because THEY don't have the money) to justify the expense. Then couple this with the fact the Portlant market isn't overly big, and you have yourself a VERY slim margin for success.

 

If the team can establish itself outside the 2-3 year honeymoon period, then maybe it would have a chance to stabilize. But if it doesn't, then Portland will find itslef in the same predicament as the Colorado Rockies, the difference being Denver is much larger. Personally, I see this as a disaster waiting to happen.

 

I never really saw Portland as an MLB city. They're small enough to support an NBA team, and maybe even a relocated NHL team, but baseball or football would die there.

 

There's the Vegas issue, but MLB would be leery of having any team there, even if you take the Vegas Marlins games off the books. The only other spot I could see would be Charlotte or N. Virginia, but with the Orioles and Nationals right there, that market is kind of booked.

 

Maybe Texas? San Antonio perhaps?

[Quakers]

A link to an article from Portland's Oregonian.

 

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/1136606136177420.xml&coll=7

 

Highlights of the article.

 

The Florida Marlins, exploring relocation while trying to secure a stadium in South Florida, will visit Portland on Monday on their "tour" of cities interested in a major league baseball franchise

 

Portland is just one of several options, including staying in Miami.

 

Portland, in competition for a major league franchise with Las Vegas, San Antonio and others, has in its favor a state financing mechanism and a usable interim ballpark

 

The interim park they are referring to would be PGE park where the AAA team the Beavers play. It is small by MLB standards, but it could do in a pinch until a new park was built.

 

Also, despite a reputation that says otherwise, baseball does work in Oregon. Most of the rain falls from November until April. From July through October it is generally quite dry here. The early season games (and play-off games) would be in jeopardy though.

[mhuber92211]

There was an excellent article a couple of years back from Rob Neyer (Don't have insider so I can't search for it) but he basically outlines why Portland would be a great spot for a team and I wholheardtly agree. I grew up and spent 21 years in various parts of Oregon and I know how fanatical the people can be about a sports team. Look at the Blazers. They set the NBA record for consecutive sellouts.

 

I wonder where Aneimc Offense is getting his info from on the economy and the market. The TV market is one of the biggest that still doesn't have a team and Portland metro is still in the top 20 of fastest growing communites. The impact on Seattle would be marginal at best. I would think that adding a 3rd team to the Virgina/Carolina area (Washington & Baltimore) would be more detritmental on that front then Seattle vs. Portland. Seattle is roughly the same distance away from Portland that Vegas is away from LA. No one is concerned about the southern california marketplace for their 3 teams with adding Vegas into the mix.

 

I think that Portland has one of the best opportunities for baseball left in the US. A downtown ballpark would fit right in with the revitialization plans and it would be similar to SBC in feel as it would be built right along the waterfront of the Willamette/Columbia rivers.

 

As far as the colors & mascots are concerned I would say that burnt orange and dark green (major colors of the 2 universities) would be 2 of the inital choices. As for the mascot the Beavers would be a top choice but I would think that the Timbers would have a say too. How about the Portland Lumberjacks?

[stitchface]

West:

San Diego, Colorado, Arizona, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland

 

Central:

Cubs, Cards, Houston, Milwaukee, Cincinnati

 

East:

Atlanta, Phily, Pittsburgh, Washington, Mets

 

This is going to open up a whole other can of worms, but that's going to make Interleague Play difficult when it's division vs. division. Central and East would be perfect as each are at 5, but 6 vs. 4 would be hard to do.

 

In the grand scheme of things, it's minor. But I think baseball would take it into consideration and make either the east or the central the 6-team division.

 

 

I think this has been sufficiently screwed up already. They find a way for the Central to play the West so how would it be different?

 

I'm all for Colorado joining the Central though!

[stitchface]

I don't think it rains that much in the summer either - less than Miami probably. How about the Portland Salmon?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Here's an interview with Neyer (from 2003) in which he discusses a stadium and team in Portland (among other things.)

[UK1679666180]

I don't think it rains that much in the summer either - less than Miami probably. How about the Portland Salmon?

 

Too much Salmon talk tonight....

 

Think the Cubs could have Salmon as the RH bat off the bench? :)

[JGalt73]

I could live with this...

 

http://www.oregonstadiumcampaign.org/images/stadium/render_med.gif

[stitchface]

I don't think it rains that much in the summer either - less than Miami probably. How about the Portland Salmon?

 

Too much Salmon talk tonight....

 

Think the Cubs could have Salmon as the RH bat off the bench? :)

 

 

Salmon was our old cat's favorite - player and meal. the salmon was delicious btw.

 

 

I only support Portland if they learn how to pronounce Willamette.

[Coach C]

Also, despite a reputation that says otherwise, baseball does work in Oregon. Most of the rain falls from November until April. From July through October it is generally quite dry here. The early season games (and play-off games) would be in jeopardy though.

 

They could still go for a retractable roof if they decide that route. *shrug*

[Careless]

I wonder where Aneimc Offense is getting his info from on the economy and the market. The TV market is one of the biggest that still doesn't have a team and Portland metro is still in the top 20 of fastest growing communites. The impact on Seattle would be marginal at best. I would think that adding a 3rd team to the Virgina/Carolina area (Washington & Baltimore) would be more detritmental on that front then Seattle vs. Portland. Seattle is roughly the same distance away from Portland that Vegas is away from LA. No one is concerned about the southern california marketplace for their 3 teams with adding Vegas into the mix.

There are many, many more people around DC than portland and seattle. There are what, 10 times as many people in the LA region as portland? 7 times as many in LA-SD-LV as portland-seattle?

LV is the fastest growing ciity in the country now. Assuming that baseball has a good potential base there, I'd say vegas has to be the best choice.

[DougDascenzo]

the portland mercy killers

 

or

 

Portland potheads???

 

has a nice ring to it