Tuesday Dec 20 is non-tender day...who will be available?

[CuseCubFan69]

Boston got Ortiz because of Non-Tender Day, is there anyone like that that could possibly be non-tendered?

[SCCubbieFAN]

Milton Bradley

[Wheelimus]

Hehe, if Milton Bradley is non tendered we better be signing his butt...

[SCCubbieFAN]

Hehe, if Milton Bradley is non tendered we better be signing his butt...

 

The As have not signed him since trading for him. Certainly makes one wonder if they don't sign him today, will they take a chance on what he might get by offering him arby?

[JeffH]

Hehe, if Milton Bradley is non tendered we better be signing his butt...

 

The As have not signed him since trading for him. Certainly makes one wonder if they don't sign him today, will they take a chance on what he might get by offering him arby?

 

Yes, of course. This is a team that exercised a $4 million option on Jay Payton. They won't blink at paying Bradley a $4-ish contract.

[CuseCubFan69]

Does anyone have a list of players that are eligible that may be non-tendered?

[JeffH]

http://www.mlb4u.com/arb.html

 

Take a look at the list of arb eligibles. Usually, players eligible for the third time who play for low budget teams are good candidates.

 

Often, though, if these guys are any good, they get traded rather than non-tendered.

 

Kolb, Craig Wilson, Meche, GMJ, Spivey, Borowski are possibilities.

[BigbadB]

Hehe, if Milton Bradley is non tendered we better be signing his butt...

 

The As have not signed him since trading for him. Certainly makes one wonder if they don't sign him today, will they take a chance on what he might get by offering him arby?

 

Yes, of course. This is a team that exercised a $4 million option on Jay Payton. They won't blink at paying Bradley a $4-ish contract.

 

Interestingly enough, the Brewers just traded for Kolb, and now may non-tender him if they can't work out an agreement before the non-tender date. Would the A's do the same? I'm curious.

[JeffH]

Hehe, if Milton Bradley is non tendered we better be signing his butt...

 

The As have not signed him since trading for him. Certainly makes one wonder if they don't sign him today, will they take a chance on what he might get by offering him arby?

 

Yes, of course. This is a team that exercised a $4 million option on Jay Payton. They won't blink at paying Bradley a $4-ish contract.

 

Interestingly enough, the Brewers just traded for Kolb, and now may non-tender him if they can't work out an agreement before the non-tender date. Would the A's do the same? I'm curious.

 

Anything's possible, I suppose, but Bradley's good and Kolb isn't.

[BigbadB]

Bradley is good, but the excess baggage might make Oakland flinch. Plus, wouldn't the A's really rather have a Craig Wilson type than Bradley?

 

Why didn't those two teams work a deal? Is Swisher really a horrible outfielder?

[CuseCubFan69]

http://www.mlb4u.com/arb.html

 

Take a look at the list of arb eligibles. Usually, players eligible for the third time who play for low budget teams are good candidates.

 

Often, though, if these guys are any good, they get traded rather than non-tendered.

 

Kolb, Craig Wilson, Meche, GMJ, Spivey, Borowski are possibilities.

 

Thanks Jeff. I'd like the Cubs to pick up Freel and bat and play him second but I doubt he's go to Chicago since it looks like the Cubs have 3 2nd baseman. Could he play left and move Murton to right?

[JeffH]

Thanks Jeff. I'd like the Cubs to pick up Freel and bat and play him second but I doubt he's go to Chicago since it looks like the Cubs have 3 2nd baseman. Could he play left and move Murton to right?

 

That would be a pretty awful outfield, I would think. Plus, I think the Cubs value outfield defense enough that Murton isn't a real option in RF.

[CuseCubFan69]

Thanks Jeff. I'd like the Cubs to pick up Freel and bat and play him second but I doubt he's go to Chicago since it looks like the Cubs have 3 2nd baseman. Could he play left and move Murton to right?

 

That would be a pretty awful outfield, I would think. Plus, I think the Cubs value outfield defense enough that Murton isn't a real option in RF.

 

I thought that Freel played CF at times for the Reds?

[JeffH]

I thought that Freel played CF at times for the Reds?

 

Yes, he did. I didn't mean defensively. That would be a outfield quite short on power.

[Blueheart05]

Hehe, if Milton Bradley is non tendered we better be signing his butt...

 

The As have not signed him since trading for him. Certainly makes one wonder if they don't sign him today, will they take a chance on what he might get by offering him arby?

 

Yes, of course. This is a team that exercised a $4 million option on Jay Payton. They won't blink at paying Bradley a $4-ish contract.

 

Interestingly enough, the Brewers just traded for Kolb, and now may non-tender him if they can't work out an agreement before the non-tender date. Would the A's do the same? I'm curious.

 

From what I read, the Brewers have an agreement with Kolb that he will be non tendered with the intention of re-signing him to a lower contract.

 

• RHP Dan Kolb. The Brewers traded for Kolb at the Winter Meetings and would like to give him a chance to return to 2004 form, but only if he agrees to be non-tendered and re-signed at a significantly reduced price than the $3.4 million he made last year from Atlanta.

 

MLB.com

[jtownie]

So what happens if Kolb doesn't agree to be non-tendered to re-sign at a lower price? Do the Brewers then just suck it up and pay him more?

 

Freel would be a really good pickup I think.

[SCCubbieFAN]

From what I read, the Brewers have an agreement with Kolb that he will be non tendered with the intention of re-signing him to a lower contract.

 

This doesn't make sense. Kolb does not "have to" be non-tendered just so the Brewers can sign him to a lower contract. The Brewers can resign him before the 20th to a lower rate than his 2005 contract. If he is non-tendered, he is free to negotiate with any team, including the Brewers, but that puts Kolb in a better bargaining position. :roll:

[CuseCubFan69]

From what I read, the Brewers have an agreement with Kolb that he will be non tendered with the intention of re-signing him to a lower contract.

 

This doesn't make sense. Kolb does not "have to" be non-tendered just so the Brewers can sign him to a lower contract. The Brewers can resign him before the 20th to a lower rate than his 2005 contract. If he is non-tendered, he is free to negotiate with any team, including the Brewers, but that puts Kolb in a better bargaining position. :roll:

 

I thought a team could only offer X percent lower then the last contract?

[BigbadB]

From what I read, the Brewers have an agreement with Kolb that he will be non tendered with the intention of re-signing him to a lower contract.

 

This doesn't make sense. Kolb does not "have to" be non-tendered just so the Brewers can sign him to a lower contract. The Brewers can resign him before the 20th to a lower rate than his 2005 contract. If he is non-tendered, he is free to negotiate with any team, including the Brewers, but that puts Kolb in a better bargaining position. :roll:

 

I thought a team could only offer X percent lower then the last contract?

 

It's true if the case goes before an arbitrator. If you decline to tender him, he becomes a free agent. You can offer him league minimum at that point, but you'll have to worry about someone else outbidding you.

 

It sounds like Kolb and the Brewers have a deal in place to non tender and re-sign Kolb to something favorable to the player and the team.

[CuseCubFan69]

So much for the Freel idea:

 

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9105690

 

3M for 2 years w/Reds.

[B]

From what I read, the Brewers have an agreement with Kolb that he will be non tendered with the intention of re-signing him to a lower contract.

 

This doesn't make sense. Kolb does not "have to" be non-tendered just so the Brewers can sign him to a lower contract. The Brewers can resign him before the 20th to a lower rate than his 2005 contract. If he is non-tendered, he is free to negotiate with any team, including the Brewers, but that puts Kolb in a better bargaining position. :roll:

 

I thought a team could only offer X percent lower then the last contract?

 

It's true if the case goes before an arbitrator. If you decline to tender him, he becomes a free agent. You can offer him league minimum at that point, but you'll have to worry about someone else outbidding you.

 

It sounds like Kolb and the Brewers have a deal in place to non tender and re-sign Kolb to something favorable to the player and the team.

 

You're correct. It's the same thing Barrett did when he was traded to us. He became a free agent for a day so we could sign him for a larger % less than we could have if he wasn't a free agent.

[Lefty]

So much for the Freel idea:

 

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9105690

 

3M for 2 years w/Reds.

 

What did we pay for the inferior Perez?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

So much for the Freel idea:

 

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9105690

 

3M for 2 years w/Reds.

 

What did we pay for the inferior Perez?

 

$5 mil too much...

[ThePenguin11]

So much for the Freel idea:

 

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9105690

 

3M for 2 years w/Reds.

 

What did we pay for the inferior Perez?

 

$5 mil too much...

 

The thought of it makes my brain hurt.

[Mark Priors Calves]

So much for the Freel idea:

 

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/9105690

 

3M for 2 years w/Reds.

 

What did we pay for the inferior Perez?

 

$5 mil too much...

 

The thought of it makes my brain hurt.

 

It surprises me to say this but I angrier about the Perez everyday. Especially when you look at a player like Freel, who can actually be a valuable player on a team.