Rosenthals notes

[NorthsideAvenger]

Some Cubs notes from Ken Rosenthals:

 

Wouldn't be surprise if Javy Vasquez ends up with the Cubs, the Cards, or the Indians.

 

Abreu to the Cubs or Mariners is something he prolly stole from this board.

 

Lee is eyeing Konerko new "contract" as the starting off point for his negotiations. Which he had better numbers this yr, and over the career.

 

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=37083

[bc2k]

Lee is eyeing Konerko new "contract" as the starting off point for his negotiations. Which he had better numbers this yr, and over the career.

 

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=37083

 

I don't think Lee should worry too much about Konerko's deal since he is a superior first baseman. Not only are Lee's numbers better over the past few years than Konerko's, but Lee's 2004 season showed he is on an upward trend, while Konerko's last two seasons of 40-HR, 100-RBI look to be his ceiling.

 

So not only does Lee have the edge in hitting, he's also a better defensive first baseman and baserunner.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

I'd rather have Josh Beckett than Javier Vazquez if I get to choose, but Javier is a horse. You'll get your 200 IP from him, that you can take to the bank. Problem is that he's overpaid, yet another bad starting pitcher FA contract.

[TB_11]

I'd rather have Josh Beckett than Javier Vazquez if I get to choose, but Javier is a horse. You'll get your 200 IP from him, that you can take to the bank. Problem is that he's overpaid, yet another bad starting pitcher FA contract.

 

Carlos Quentin please.

[Wheelimus]

exactly, I'd eat every $ Vazquez is owed if I can get Carlos out of it...

[YearofDaCubs]

I know there was talk before about Hendry being really high on Vazquez. I'm not against trading for him.

[St.Paul Cub]

I'd rather have Josh Beckett than Javier Vazquez if I get to choose, but Javier is a horse. You'll get your 200 IP from him, that you can take to the bank. Problem is that he's overpaid, yet another bad starting pitcher FA contract.

 

What's his $ because even if he's overpaid, he might be a bargain in relation to what Beckett gets.

[fearthecubs]

I'd rather have Josh Beckett than Javier Vazquez if I get to choose, but Javier is a horse. You'll get your 200 IP from him, that you can take to the bank. Problem is that he's overpaid, yet another bad starting pitcher FA contract.

 

What's his $ because even if he's overpaid, he might be a bargain in relation to what Beckett gets.

 

Someone else should probably check, but I'm pretty sure it's 11 million from New York originally. Who knows if Arizona is paying part of it now or what the Cubs would have to pay in the trade. I will also go on record as being in favor of any trade for Vazquez, regardless of money we have to pay. Like I said about Eyre, I really could care less how much we spend on people as long as they help us win a World Series. Vazquez can eat 200 innings, a seemingly unachievable feat for Cubs pitchers lately.

[JeffH]

As I understand it, Vazquez is due $18 of non-Yankee money over the next two seasons.

[Jehrico]

As I understand it, Vazquez is due $18 of non-Yankee money over the next two seasons.

 

AZ might pick up a chunk of that, so he might be had at $6 per, give or take a mil, depending on what AZ got in return. Couple that in with the fact that he's likely to return closer to his career norms (i.e. improve over last year), he could end up being a decent value for the $ yet.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

As I understand it, Vazquez is due $18 of non-Yankee money over the next two seasons.

 

From what I have, the Yankees are done paying Vazquez, so he'd be due 24 mil over the next two years(11.5/12.5). However, I'm not positive that this is the case.

[goonys evil twin]

As I understand it, Vazquez is due $18 of non-Yankee money over the next two seasons.

 

From what I have, the Yankees are done paying Vazquez, so he'd be due 24 mil over the next two years(11.5/12.5). However, I'm not positive that this is the case.

 

From this site:

 

NY Yankees to pay $9M ($3M/year) of 2005-07 salaries

 

That would leave $8.5m and $9.5 in 2006 and 2007 for whatever team he plays for.

[nolanwood]

I definitely don't want Vazquez for that kinda $ - I'd rather have Lowe, Millwood or Burnett.

[CoolHandLuke]

I definitely don't want Vazquez for that kinda $ - I'd rather have Lowe, Millwood or Burnett.

 

None of them could come with CQ. I know i'm being overly hopeful but I love the guy. Also Millwood and Burnett would take a lot more money than that and I'm not sure Millwood is even a solid bet to perform better than Vazquez over the two years.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

As I understand it, Vazquez is due $18 of non-Yankee money over the next two seasons.

 

From what I have, the Yankees are done paying Vazquez, so he'd be due 24 mil over the next two years(11.5/12.5). However, I'm not positive that this is the case.

 

From this site:

 

NY Yankees to pay $9M ($3M/year) of 2005-07 salaries

 

That would leave $8.5m and $9.5 in 2006 and 2007 for whatever team he plays for.

 

Ah, I had the Yanks paying all of the 9 mil in '05.

[NorthsideAvenger]

exactly, I'd eat every $ Vazquez is owed if I can get Carlos out of it...

 

Same here.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

As I understand it, Vazquez is due $18 of non-Yankee money over the next two seasons.

 

From what I have, the Yankees are done paying Vazquez, so he'd be due 24 mil over the next two years(11.5/12.5). However, I'm not positive that this is the case.

 

From this site:

 

NY Yankees to pay $9M ($3M/year) of 2005-07 salaries

 

That would leave $8.5m and $9.5 in 2006 and 2007 for whatever team he plays for.

 

So if Arizona would take on $6MM of that over two years let's say, then I'd certainly be interested. Give them a replacement but cheap starter in exchange. And they desperately need bullpen help.

 

Jerome Williams + Roberto Novoa for Javier Vazquez and $6MM? I'd do that. Vazquez > Williams and Novoa is about to become surplus goods for us.