The 2005-2006 Chicago Bulls Thread

[1908]

then are likely to have another top 5 pick in the 2007 draft, along with our own first-rounder and two second-rounders, the top 5 pick assuming the Knicks are awful again.

Not quite, the Bulls have the option to swap first round picks with the Knicks in 2007, but they will have only one pick in the first round.

 

If Pax doesn't screw it up (and all indications from the last couple of drafts are that he won't), this team will be a perennial championship contender over the next 5-7 years.

There's certainly plenty of reason for optimism, but I'm not convinced this team will be a perennial contender.

[Flames24Rulz]

i still would trade both 06 picks and Deng if it netted Garnett. Sign Harrington in the offseason and you have a starting 5 that looks like this..

 

Hinrich

Gordon

Harrington

Chandler

Garnett

 

that lineup could be very dominant in the league..couple in the fact you'll still have Nocioni, Songaila (hopefully), Pargo, Allen, throw in another bench signing and you have a very successful team next year.

There would be no excuse for that team to not compete with Detroit and Miami next year.

 

I like Deng a lot and I know he is going to develop in a very good player...but if a guy like Garnett is on the market and all you have to give up is one good player and 2 potential projects, then I do it.

[Soul]

Not saying Gordon would ever be like Mike, or even like Dwayne Wade. But there's exactly zero chance he will develop into any kind of a consistent impact player from the bench. And that's 100% on Skiles.

I don't know if you've been paying any attention, but Gordon's been starting since around the second or third week of the season.

 

Well, he's averaging about 30 minutes per game. I think that's low. So sue me.

[1908]

I like Deng a lot and I know he is going to develop in a very good player...but if a guy like Garnett is on the market and all you have to give up is one good player and 2 potential projects, then I do it.

That trade was suggested by Chad Ford, and I agree it's a trade the Bulls would have to make. Other suggested Garnett trades have the Bulls giving up a lot more, though.

 

I'd also start Noch before Harrington by a wide margin.

[Flames24Rulz]

I like Deng a lot and I know he is going to develop in a very good player...but if a guy like Garnett is on the market and all you have to give up is one good player and 2 potential projects, then I do it.

That trade was suggested by Chad Ford, and I agree it's a trade the Bulls would have to make. Other suggested Garnett trades have the Bulls giving up a lot more, though.

 

I'd also start Noch before Harrington by a wide margin.

 

i'm talking about Al Harrington from the Hawks, not Othella..even though you may still want to start Noc over Al as well.

[1908]

I like Deng a lot and I know he is going to develop in a very good player...but if a guy like Garnett is on the market and all you have to give up is one good player and 2 potential projects, then I do it.

That trade was suggested by Chad Ford, and I agree it's a trade the Bulls would have to make. Other suggested Garnett trades have the Bulls giving up a lot more, though.

 

I'd also start Noch before Harrington by a wide margin.

 

i'm talking about Al Harrington from the Hawks, not Othella..even though you may still want to start Noc over Al as well.

Oh. Trading Deng and picks for Garnett would eat up the Bulls cap space.

[Mark_R]

Do NBA teams actually develop? I was always under the impression that you either win by drafting a great player and hope he develops into an elite within 3 years (doesn't look like any current Bull will come close to that), or you sign/trade for somebody else's superstar. Is there much of a history of sub .500 teams gradually getting better with the same group of players, without at least one of those players turning into a superstar, or trading for a superstar?

Young talent develops in the NBA, both Deng and Gordon have All-Star potential, and your 3-year window is too narrow.

 

I understand that young talent develops. But my question is to teams develop from sub .500 to championship caliber solely on the development of that young talent? I don't follow it much, and I don't really know basketball, but it seems to me like you have to either draft somebody who becomes elite, or trade/sign somebody who is elite, to have a chance in the NBA. Even Detroit had to go out and get somebody else's superstar, didn't they?

 

That's what the Bulls have the opportunity to do, though, draft elite players. They have a potential number one this season, and when the Knicks suck really bad in 07, they might have a shot at Greg Oden.

 

Like I said previously, give this regime three years to work with what it has.

[Flames24Rulz]

I like Deng a lot and I know he is going to develop in a very good player...but if a guy like Garnett is on the market and all you have to give up is one good player and 2 potential projects, then I do it.

That trade was suggested by Chad Ford, and I agree it's a trade the Bulls would have to make. Other suggested Garnett trades have the Bulls giving up a lot more, though.

 

I'd also start Noch before Harrington by a wide margin.

 

i'm talking about Al Harrington from the Hawks, not Othella..even though you may still want to start Noc over Al as well.

Oh. Trading Deng and picks for Garnett would eat up the Bulls cap space.

 

and for some reason, I entirely forgot about that. I'd still take Garnett though..start Noc then instead of Harrington. It still looks like a pretty good starting 5.

 

like Mark said, hopefully the Knicks continue to suck so we can land Oden in 07 :D

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The game is on TNT tonight. The Bulls are down to the Cavs 10-6.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Varejao!

[Flames24Rulz]

wow Skiles..having Pike guard LeBron? Mind as well have me guard LeBron.

[Mike Aller]

The Bulls ran into Cleveland at a bad time. Chicago isn't shooting well, but this isn't the same Cleveland team as it was last year, and they're trying to make a statement.

 

Cavs are up 44-23

[Andy]

The Bulls ran into Cleveland at a bad time. Chicago isn't shooting well, but this isn't the same Cleveland team as it was last year, and they're trying to make a statement.

 

Cavs are up 44-23

The fact that the Bulls are shooting like 20 percent might have something to do with it too.

[Mike Aller]

The Bulls ran into Cleveland at a bad time. Chicago isn't shooting well, but this isn't the same Cleveland team as it was last year, and they're trying to make a statement.

 

Cavs are up 44-23

The fact that the Bulls are shooting like 20 percent might have something to do with it too.

Yeah, hence why I mentioned that. :wink:

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Meh. :(

[Jon]

Well that was a painful half.

[Mike Aller]

If you guys are within 30 at the start of the 4th, you have a chance.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Should be 75-62 with Duhon getting a FT to go at the end of 3, but the refs are dumb. 75-60 after 3, Cleveland leads it.

[Jon]

Ugh. Those two or three points at the end of the quarter would've been nice, refs.

[Jon]

How many layups is this team going to miss by the end of the night?

[Mike Aller]

The refs missed the charge call earlier that Duhon had agains Snow. It has been pretty fairly called. It was obviously a blown call, but they blew a call the other way too.

[Jon]

The refs missed the charge call earlier that Duhon had agains Snow. It has been pretty fairly called. It was obviously a blown call, but they blew a call the other way too.

I didn't think Snow was that close to getting set on that play, but with Duhon, the foul was called. They just decided to take away the shot despite the fact that he was in the process of shooting the ball.

 

It's amazing that they're still in this game.

[Mike Aller]

The refs missed the charge call earlier that Duhon had agains Snow. It has been pretty fairly called. It was obviously a blown call, but they blew a call the other way too.

I didn't think Snow was that close to getting set on that play, but with Duhon, the foul was called. They just decided to take away the shot despite the fact that he was in the process of shooting the ball.

 

It's amazing that they're still in this game.

If he wasn't set then it is a defensive foul. There was no whistle. Although it was clearly a bad call against the bulls at the end.

 

Note: any team is still in the game in the 4th quarter against the cavs (ever since hughes went out)

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The refs missed the charge call earlier that Duhon had agains Snow. It has been pretty fairly called. It was obviously a blown call, but they blew a call the other way too.

 

Gotta agree with Jon, Snow wasn't set for a charge. Those 2-3 points look huge now with the Bulls coming back. I don't care if they blow one, call the rest of the game correctly, rather than making up for the blown calls.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Wow! :D

 

21-6 scoring in the 4th quarter in favor of the Bulls.