My new target: Marcus Giles and Brian Giles

[AramisRamirez]

I would give up a very accetpable package for a proven high quality up and comer like gikkes, im a big todd walker fan, i think im probabaly the highest of any one on this board in regards to walker. i just think he's a great at-bat and a wonderful 2nd hitter. BUT marcus giles is a baseball player, he just has natural abillity, high BB IQ, and consistently improving,.

 

in order to get this deal done, we have to start with todd walker (who is slightly less paid than giles). obviously we have to give up a good prospect, too. i think sergio mitre, who had pitched well on the major league level s few times, would have to be incluced. even if mitre isnt good enough for them, we could replace mitre with dopirek. dopirek has richie sexson-like hitting skills but with derrek lee as the long-term 1b we might as well move him.

 

then i would re-sign nomar garciaparra, hoping he can make it though 140 games, according to some newspaper the braves and furcal and working out a deal. its a shame because a furcal-giles tag team would be sweet, atlanta-style! but anyways i would re-sign nomar in that case and also bring cedenoi as a backup to both.

 

the outfield needs some helo. i think Brian Giles is our best possibility. remember how much money drew got? we have to consider that a 4-year contract might be the LEAST amount of years, despite him being 32 years old. id still give him a 4-year deal, in the range of $40M. for a man with his OBP he's worth alot and we need to spend.

 

bringing in the two giles would improve our hitting but i think we have limited options for improving our rotation. millwood is soon to be locked up. AJ burnett will get $60M from the yanks or the red sox. Zito is possibly a trade option, thought it would cost us angel guzman, rich hill, and two or three high prospects. it would cost too much....

 

bring the Giles Brothers home!

[RockTheIvy]

I would give up a very accetpable package for a proven high quality up and comer like gikkes, im a big todd walker fan, i think im probabaly the highest of any one on this board in regards to walker. i just think he's a great at-bat and a wonderful 2nd hitter. BUT marcus giles is a baseball player, he just has natural abillity, high BB IQ, and consistently improving,.

 

in order to get this deal done, we have to start with todd walker (who is slightly less paid than giles). obviously we have to give up a good prospect, too. i think sergio mitre, who had pitched well on the major league level s few times, would have to be incluced. even if mitre isnt good enough for them, we could replace mitre with dopirek. dopirek has richie sexson-like hitting skills but with derrek lee as the long-term 1b we might as well move him.

 

then i would re-sign nomar garciaparra, hoping he can make it though 140 games, according to some newspaper the braves and furcal and working out a deal. its a shame because a furcal-giles tag team would be sweet, atlanta-style! but anyways i would re-sign nomar in that case and also bring cedenoi as a backup to both.

 

the outfield needs some helo. i think Brian Giles is our best possibility. remember how much money drew got? we have to consider that a 4-year contract might be the LEAST amount of years, despite him being 32 years old. id still give him a 4-year deal, in the range of $40M. for a man with his OBP he's worth alot and we need to spend.

 

bringing in the two giles would improve our hitting but i think we have limited options for improving our rotation. millwood is soon to be locked up. AJ burnett will get $60M from the yanks or the red sox. Zito is possibly a trade option, thought it would cost us angel guzman, rich hill, and two or three high prospects. it would cost too much....

 

bring the Giles Brothers home!

 

Man, I didn't know they were from Chicago?

[Jazz]

I would give up a very accetpable package for a proven high quality up and comer like gikkes, im a big todd walker fan, i think im probabaly the highest of any one on this board in regards to walker. i just think he's a great at-bat and a wonderful 2nd hitter. BUT marcus giles is a baseball player, he just has natural abillity, high BB IQ, and consistently improving,.

 

in order to get this deal done, we have to start with todd walker (who is slightly less paid than giles). obviously we have to give up a good prospect, too. i think sergio mitre, who had pitched well on the major league level s few times, would have to be incluced. even if mitre isnt good enough for them, we could replace mitre with dopirek. dopirek has richie sexson-like hitting skills but with derrek lee as the long-term 1b we might as well move him.

 

then i would re-sign nomar garciaparra, hoping he can make it though 140 games, according to some newspaper the braves and furcal and working out a deal. its a shame because a furcal-giles tag team would be sweet, atlanta-style! but anyways i would re-sign nomar in that case and also bring cedenoi as a backup to both.

 

the outfield needs some helo. i think Brian Giles is our best possibility. remember how much money drew got? we have to consider that a 4-year contract might be the LEAST amount of years, despite him being 32 years old. id still give him a 4-year deal, in the range of $40M. for a man with his OBP he's worth alot and we need to spend.

 

bringing in the two giles would improve our hitting but i think we have limited options for improving our rotation. millwood is soon to be locked up. AJ burnett will get $60M from the yanks or the red sox. Zito is possibly a trade option, thought it would cost us angel guzman, rich hill, and two or three high prospects. it would cost too much....

 

bring the Giles Brothers home!

 

Man, I didn't know they were from Chicago?

 

course not, it is well known the Giles brothers hail from the SoCal shoreline, Brian from El Cajon, CA, and Marcus from SD.

[RynoRules]

I would give up a very accetpable package for a proven high quality up and comer like gikkes, im a big todd walker fan, i think im probabaly the highest of any one on this board in regards to walker. i just think he's a great at-bat and a wonderful 2nd hitter. BUT marcus giles is a baseball player, he just has natural abillity, high BB IQ, and consistently improving,.

 

in order to get this deal done, we have to start with todd walker (who is slightly less paid than giles). obviously we have to give up a good prospect, too. i think sergio mitre, who had pitched well on the major league level s few times, would have to be incluced. even if mitre isnt good enough for them, we could replace mitre with dopirek. dopirek has richie sexson-like hitting skills but with derrek lee as the long-term 1b we might as well move him.

 

then i would re-sign nomar garciaparra, hoping he can make it though 140 games, according to some newspaper the braves and furcal and working out a deal. its a shame because a furcal-giles tag team would be sweet, atlanta-style! but anyways i would re-sign nomar in that case and also bring cedenoi as a backup to both.

 

the outfield needs some helo. i think Brian Giles is our best possibility. remember how much money drew got? we have to consider that a 4-year contract might be the LEAST amount of years, despite him being 32 years old. id still give him a 4-year deal, in the range of $40M. for a man with his OBP he's worth alot and we need to spend.

 

bringing in the two giles would improve our hitting but i think we have limited options for improving our rotation. millwood is soon to be locked up. AJ burnett will get $60M from the yanks or the red sox. Zito is possibly a trade option, thought it would cost us angel guzman, rich hill, and two or three high prospects. it would cost too much....

 

bring the Giles Brothers home!

 

Man, I didn't know they were from Chicago?

 

course not, it is well known the Giles brothers hail from the SoCal shoreline, Brian from El Cajon, CA, and Marcus from SD.

 

Uh. I think he was being sarcastic.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Let's just say Brian Giles has no interest in leaving SD, which is a very possible scenario, no matter what the cost is. Who would everyone's 2nd option for RF be? I know it's a big drop-off after B.Giles. Here are some of the FA's available:

J.Jones (Burnitz type offensive numbers, but above avg. defensively,GG caliber)

J.Burnitz

P.Wilson

J.Damon(don't think he is a fit due to him being a CF & the money he will attract)

M.Lawton(traded him away for a reason)

Juan Encarnacion

Randy Winn (not sure if he is unrestricted FA or not)

Jose Cruz Jr.

 

or pass on all of these& go with a platoon of CPatt,Muton,Hairston & Pie

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Let's just say Brian Giles has no interest in leaving SD, which is a very possible scenario, no matter what the cost is. Who would everyone's 2nd option for RF be? I know it's a big drop-off after B.Giles. Here are some of the FA's available:

J.Jones (Burnitz type offensive numbers, but above avg. defensively,GG caliber)

J.Burnitz

P.Wilson

J.Damon(don't think he is a fit due to him being a CF & the money he will attract)

M.Lawton(traded him away for a reason)

Juan Encarnacion

Randy Winn (not sure if he is unrestricted FA or not)

Jose Cruz Jr.

 

or pass on all of these& go with a platoon of CPatt,Muton,Hairston & Pie

 

I think you have to explore a lot of trade options before you go with that OF.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Let's just say Brian Giles has no interest in leaving SD, which is a very possible scenario, no matter what the cost is. Who would everyone's 2nd option for RF be? I know it's a big drop-off after B.Giles. Here are some of the FA's available:

J.Jones (Burnitz type offensive numbers, but above avg. defensively,GG caliber)

J.Burnitz

P.Wilson

J.Damon(don't think he is a fit due to him being a CF & the money he will attract)

M.Lawton(traded him away for a reason)

Juan Encarnacion

Randy Winn (not sure if he is unrestricted FA or not)

Jose Cruz Jr.

 

or pass on all of these& go with a platoon of CPatt,Muton,Hairston & Pie

 

I think you have to explore a lot of trade options before you go with that OF.

 

I agree, It wouldn't suprise me if JH did go that route. Any likely targets come to mind?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Let's just say Brian Giles has no interest in leaving SD, which is a very possible scenario, no matter what the cost is. Who would everyone's 2nd option for RF be? I know it's a big drop-off after B.Giles. Here are some of the FA's available:

J.Jones (Burnitz type offensive numbers, but above avg. defensively,GG caliber)

J.Burnitz

P.Wilson

J.Damon(don't think he is a fit due to him being a CF & the money he will attract)

M.Lawton(traded him away for a reason)

Juan Encarnacion

Randy Winn (not sure if he is unrestricted FA or not)

Jose Cruz Jr.

 

or pass on all of these& go with a platoon of CPatt,Muton,Hairston & Pie

 

I think you have to explore a lot of trade options before you go with that OF.

 

I agree, It wouldn't suprise me if JH did go that route. Any likely targets come to mind?

 

When the alternative is that outfield, it may be easier to decide who not to target. Most anyone is going to be an upgrade in some fashion. Off the top of my head, Milton Bradley is my number 2 target after Giles. If Manny or Dunn are available, you have to go after them. Other names that spring to mind are Wilkerson, Guillen, Gomes, and others who aren't as good but still much better than the OF outlined above.

[Electron Blue]

Let's just say Brian Giles has no interest in leaving SD, which is a very possible scenario, no matter what the cost is. Who would everyone's 2nd option for RF be? I know it's a big drop-off after B.Giles. Here are some of the FA's available:

J.Jones (Burnitz type offensive numbers, but above avg. defensively,GG caliber)

J.Burnitz

P.Wilson

J.Damon(don't think he is a fit due to him being a CF & the money he will attract)

M.Lawton(traded him away for a reason)

Juan Encarnacion

Randy Winn (not sure if he is unrestricted FA or not)

Jose Cruz Jr.

 

or pass on all of these& go with a platoon of CPatt,Muton,Hairston & Pie

 

I think you have to explore a lot of trade options before you go with that OF.

 

I agree, It wouldn't suprise me if JH did go that route. Any likely targets come to mind?

 

[naive]Manny, Manny, Manny![/naive]

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Let's just say Brian Giles has no interest in leaving SD, which is a very possible scenario, no matter what the cost is. Who would everyone's 2nd option for RF be? I know it's a big drop-off after B.Giles. Here are some of the FA's available:

J.Jones (Burnitz type offensive numbers, but above avg. defensively,GG caliber)

J.Burnitz

P.Wilson

J.Damon(don't think he is a fit due to him being a CF & the money he will attract)

M.Lawton(traded him away for a reason)

Juan Encarnacion

Randy Winn (not sure if he is unrestricted FA or not)

Jose Cruz Jr.

 

or pass on all of these& go with a platoon of CPatt,Muton,Hairston & Pie

 

I think you have to explore a lot of trade options before you go with that OF.

 

I agree, It wouldn't suprise me if JH did go that route. Any likely targets come to mind?

 

When the alternative is that outfield, it may be easier to decide who not to target. Most anyone is going to be an upgrade in some fashion. Off the top of my head, Milton Bradley is my number 2 target after Giles. If Manny or Dunn are available, you have to go after them. Other names that spring to mind are Wilkerson, Guillen, Gomes, and others who aren't as good but still much better than the OF outlined above.

Why would the Dodgers consider moving Bradley? too injury prone? they have enough depth @ OF? salary constraints? desperate need for SP?

 

Gomes from TB seems very unlikely. Isn't he still @ league minimum?

[Exile on Waveland]

Why would the Dodgers consider moving Bradley?

 

He's crazy.

[TrueBlueCubFan]

Why would the Dodgers consider moving Bradley?

 

He's crazy.

Then why would the Cubs target him in a trade?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Why would the Dodgers consider moving Bradley?

 

He's crazy.

Then why would the Cubs target him in a trade?

 

Because he's really good, and it shouldn't really matter that he's crazy.

[Jehrico]

Encarnacion could still have a breakout year...I could see Hendry taking a flier on him, I would rank him the most likely of the listed OFrs to be signed to fill our RF vacancy.

 

I also wouldn't be surprised to see Preston Wilson brought in to play Center. I don't think Corey's coming back next year.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think Jose Guillen might be the best option in a trade if we can't get Giles. He's crazy, but I'd rather have crazy and good, than be completely sane and suck.

 

Now if we could get Bradley and Guillen...that's two crazy and good outfielders. Could be for fun times....let's do it.

[RockTheIvy]

I would give up a very accetpable package for a proven high quality up and comer like gikkes, im a big todd walker fan, i think im probabaly the highest of any one on this board in regards to walker. i just think he's a great at-bat and a wonderful 2nd hitter. BUT marcus giles is a baseball player, he just has natural abillity, high BB IQ, and consistently improving,.

 

in order to get this deal done, we have to start with todd walker (who is slightly less paid than giles). obviously we have to give up a good prospect, too. i think sergio mitre, who had pitched well on the major league level s few times, would have to be incluced. even if mitre isnt good enough for them, we could replace mitre with dopirek. dopirek has richie sexson-like hitting skills but with derrek lee as the long-term 1b we might as well move him.

 

then i would re-sign nomar garciaparra, hoping he can make it though 140 games, according to some newspaper the braves and furcal and working out a deal. its a shame because a furcal-giles tag team would be sweet, atlanta-style! but anyways i would re-sign nomar in that case and also bring cedenoi as a backup to both.

 

the outfield needs some helo. i think Brian Giles is our best possibility. remember how much money drew got? we have to consider that a 4-year contract might be the LEAST amount of years, despite him being 32 years old. id still give him a 4-year deal, in the range of $40M. for a man with his OBP he's worth alot and we need to spend.

 

bringing in the two giles would improve our hitting but i think we have limited options for improving our rotation. millwood is soon to be locked up. AJ burnett will get $60M from the yanks or the red sox. Zito is possibly a trade option, thought it would cost us angel guzman, rich hill, and two or three high prospects. it would cost too much....

 

bring the Giles Brothers home!

 

Man, I didn't know they were from Chicago?

 

course not, it is well known the Giles brothers hail from the SoCal shoreline, Brian from El Cajon, CA, and Marcus from SD.

 

Uh. I think he was being sarcastic.

 

Yeah, guess I wasn't clear there. But obviously upgrading our team with both Giles' brothers would make us much better. However I really don't think that will happen. We might land one, and if we do, I wouldn't be surprised if it was Marcus, only because Hendry has a better track record, IMO, with trades than with free agents. And I think that Giles will probably be back in San Diego next year.

[CubinNY]

If I were a betting man I'd bet that the Giles brothers do end up playing on the same team... in Atlanta.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If I were a betting man I'd bet that the Giles brothers do end up playing on the same team... in Atlanta.

 

Unless Atlanta shuffles payroll, there's no way that happens, unless Brian plays for 5-6 million a year which will not happen.

[nilodnayr]

If I were a betting man I'd bet that the Giles brothers do end up playing on the same team... in Atlanta.

I'll take that bet!!! Ohh and Giles will be 35 next year, not 32.

[nilodnayr]

If I were a betting man I'd bet that the Giles brothers do end up playing on the same team... in Atlanta.

 

Unless Atlanta shuffles payroll, there's no way that happens, unless Brian plays for 5-6 million a year which will not happen.

 

Even if he takes 5-6M that means by by Furcal, which it doesnt appear they want to do.

[MPrior]

Just to play the hopeful devil's advocate, Brian Giles has been pretty vocal on how much PETCO sucks as a hitter's park. So he may seriously entertain offers from other teams. Plus, SD may not be able/willing to pay what he'll demand on the open market.

 

Secondly, as far as trading for outfielders goes, Cincinnati and Tampa Bay are both potentail suitors (both because they have a surplus of outfielders, and because Tampa Bay's new GM may not be as crazy as Lamar, and Cincinnati hopefully won't be demanding ridiculous prices for their players like they were at the trade deadline). That said, I think that Kearns and Huff are both more likely than Gomes or Dunn.