Where are the 'leaks' coming from?

[CubbieRich]

I'm sure everyone has heard the 'Corey may be asked to seek psychological help in the off-season' story. It's been in both Chicago papers for about 1-2 weeks. Dusty has spoken openly about it, but Corey says that no one has talked to him. Wouldn't you think that Dusty had talked to Corey before letting the story out? If your employer spread the word about you like that, wouldn't you sue them big time?

 

If you believe that Corey has not been approached about seeking help, then who is leaking the story to the beat writers-Dusty or Jim Hendry? For an organization that is very concerned about the public image of the team, they seem to have their share of these behind-the-scenes petty squabbles the last couple years.

[CuseCubFan69]

I didn't hear about Corey having problems like this before but if Baker or anyone from the Cubs have leaked out information about his medical condition without his permission I see that as a problem. I just hope this isn't another "Sammy left early" smear campain thing.

[JC]

Ironic that the guy with the alleged fragile make up has to deal publicly with all of these issues regarding trade talk, Winter Ball, psychologists, etc.

 

The Cub organization makes me scratch my head.

[dalgreen]

I didn't hear about Corey having problems like this before but if Baker or anyone from the Cubs have leaked out information about his medical condition without his permission I see that as a problem. I just hope this isn't another "Sammy left early" smear campain thing.

 

From what I understand it has nothing to do with a medical condition. It was mentioned as "an alternative" solution to get Corey's concentration back. It was also mentioned that guys like Smotz and others have seen a psychologist. Baker did admit that he hadn't talked to Patterson about it.

[Tim]

Links please. I don't recall seeing anything like this in any paper.

[UMFan83]

Links please. I don't recall seeing anything like this in any paper.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050925cubsbits,1,7820932.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

I've seen something about this at least twice in the Trib.

[JC]

Sun-Times Says Baker is exploring the psychology option.

[dalgreen]

I think Bruce Miles also mentioned it in the Daily Herald.

[Tim]

Links please. I don't recall seeing anything like this in any paper.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050925cubsbits,1,7820932.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

I've seen something about this at least twice in the Trib.

Thx.

 

I'm actually pretty pissed about this. For an organization that tries to paint itself as player-friendly, the Cubs sure have an awful way of dealing with things like this.

 

I wonder if Corey could sue under HIPPA laws.

[dalgreen]

Links please. I don't recall seeing anything like this in any paper.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050925cubsbits,1,7820932.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

I've seen something about this at least twice in the Trib.

Thx.

 

I'm actually pretty pissed about this. For an organization that tries to paint itself as player-friendly, the Cubs sure have an awful way of dealing with things like this.

 

I wonder if Corey could sue under HIPPA laws.

 

I don't know what confidentiality laws have been broken with this. From what I read, this has nothing to do with a medical condition.

[JC]

 

I wonder if Corey could sue under HIPPA laws.

 

Interesting observation, Tim. Mental health records are even more difficult to secure than regular health records. Most often, such records require court hearings to make them available for litigation. Mental health records are highly privileged and the new HIPPA laws subject both the health care providers, as well as the disclosing individuals, to possible litigation.

[Tim]

Links please. I don't recall seeing anything like this in any paper.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050925cubsbits,1,7820932.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

I've seen something about this at least twice in the Trib.

Thx.

 

I'm actually pretty pissed about this. For an organization that tries to paint itself as player-friendly, the Cubs sure have an awful way of dealing with things like this.

 

I wonder if Corey could sue under HIPPA laws.

 

I don't know what confidentiality laws have been broken with this. From what I read, this has nothing to do with a medical condition.

How would you feel if your employer went to the press and said they were considering sending you to a psychologist?

 

I'd be livid. But maybe that's just me.

[CuseCubFan69]

Why in earth would Baker say this to the press before talking to Patterson? I thought he was the great communicator?

[katway]

There was no protected health information disclosed and, as such, no violation of HIPAA. The Cubs saying that they are thinking about asking Corey to see a psych is not protected health information. Now, if they disclosed details such as what went on between Corey and a psych without Corey's permission, then there could be a HIPAA violation.

[dalgreen]

Links please. I don't recall seeing anything like this in any paper.

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/cs-050925cubsbits,1,7820932.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

 

I've seen something about this at least twice in the Trib.

Thx.

 

I'm actually pretty pissed about this. For an organization that tries to paint itself as player-friendly, the Cubs sure have an awful way of dealing with things like this.

 

I wonder if Corey could sue under HIPPA laws.

 

I don't know what confidentiality laws have been broken with this. From what I read, this has nothing to do with a medical condition.

How would you feel if your employer went to the press and said they were considering sending you to a psychologist?

 

I'd be livid. But maybe that's just me.

 

Oh, I think it sucks that he's hearing this for the first time from a beat writer. But I don't see any laws being broken. It's different if they said, "Due to Corey's (fill in the blank) condition....." I think this is yet another possible solution made out of total desperation by the Cubs. But from what I read, many athletes have seen sports psychologists, so I don't know if it's necessarily a negative thing. I do think the Cubs do an extremely poor job of keeping things "in house."

[CubbieRich]

He has lost all confidence at the plate and even in the field. He doesn't show emotion(which is his way) and that's okay, but many of us view that as 'I don't care' attitude. He refuses to bunt, to choke up and lay off the high pitch. But yet, Dusty runs him out there everyday.

 

I don't think the Cubs can bring him back next year at any costs. The fans hate him and looks like the front office does too. This leak of 'psychological help' and the other one about not wanting to go to winter ball is just too much. I think Cub fans could live with Felix Pie out there struggling than Corey. I have read that Eric Patterson is more outgoing and demonstrative. Let's hope so.

 

I agree with Tim that the Cubs organization has made an ugly turn somewhere in the last 2 years and it is surprising.

[JC]

There was no protected health information disclosed and, as such, no violation of HIPAA. The Cubs saying that they are thinking about asking Corey to see a psych is not protected health information. Now, if they disclosed details such as what went on between Corey and a psych without Corey's permission, then there could be a HIPAA violation.

 

At the same time, disclosures made among non-treating personnel subject individuals to violations. Just because the Cubs organization isn't a healthcare treater doesn't mean they can freely discuss the mental/physical condition of their player.

 

By the Cubs saying that they are considering addressing it with Corey, they are walking a thin line. Mind you, I am not a HIPPA expert. But, I have worked enough with it to know that it isn't fine tuned and both medical professionals and litigators are still finding their way because of how sweeping the HIPPA laws are. I'm not saying you are wrong, just that there is plenty of room for interpretation still out there on the subject.

[gus_dog]

Well, last season's leaks were coming from Stone & Chippy. That was obvious.

 

This particular tidbit is just Baker being dumb.

 

Talk to the player before talking to the press. It's an easy thing to do.

 

Baker just infuriates me sometimes.

[dalgreen]

Well, last season's leaks were coming from Stone & Chippy. That was obvious.

 

This particular tidbit is just Baker being dumb.

 

Talk to the player before talking to the press. It's an easy thing to do.

 

Baker just infuriates me sometimes.

 

I would cringe anytime I saw Baker speaking with reporters. But I don't think, in this instance, he went out looking for a reporter to tell this to. Somehow, some way, the reporters seemed to already have this information. That's what ticks me off.

[goonys evil twin]

He has lost all confidence at the plate and even in the field. He doesn't show emotion(which is his way) and that's okay, but many of us view that as 'I don't care' attitude. He refuses to bunt, to choke up and lay off the high pitch.

 

Isn't it the fans' fault that they view it as a "I don't care" attitude? I see no reason to make personel changes based on the perceptions of fans who aren't willing to view the situation without bias.

 

Corey doesn't refuse to bunt, he actually bunts quite a bit, he's just not that good at it. Choking up is no cure all. And he has tried to lay off the high pitch. It's been pretty clear he's made a big effort there, the problem is just that he has so many holes right now that even if he lays off 2 straight high fastballs, pitchers can get him with just about anything else. And when he is making contact, all the swing adjustments in recent years have basically turned him into a soft ground ball to 2nd or popup to center hitter.

[goonys evil twin]

However it's being leaked, this is about the 10th time where Dusty has discussed publicly with the media something about a player that he has apparantly not discussed with the player.

 

If Dusty said he talked to so and so about picking up signs, and that player said nobody ever talked to him, then I'd assume the manager was telling the truth and the player was avoiding an uncomfortable topic. However, when that same situation comes up with half the team about several different subjects, I have to believe that talk of Dusty as a players' manager is being exposed as a fraud.

 

This isn't an isolated event. Even if some backstabbing front office person was leaking this to the media to set-up Dusty, it's up to Baker not to take the bait. This is exactly the type of thing Torre would reply "no comment".

[BigbadB]

It saddens me to see Baker eulogize a player who is still in uniform.

 

Is this "breaking news" going to turn Corey around? If anything, it only makes matters worse.

 

What's even worse is if anyone on this team needs a trip to a psychologist, it's Baker himself. To have such a love affair with horrible OBP at the top of the batting order is not healthy at all.

 

It would be nice to see someone turn the tables on Baker and suggest he get mental counseling for this blatantly obvious flaw.

[CubinNY]

It saddens me to see Baker eulogize a player who is still in uniform.

 

Is this "breaking news" going to turn Corey around? If anything, it only makes matters worse.

 

What's even worse is if anyone on this team needs a trip to a psychologist, it's Baker himself. To have such a love affair with horrible OBP at the top of the batting order is not healthy at all.

 

It would be nice to see someone turn the tables on Baker and suggest he get mental counseling for this blatantly obvious flaw.

 

It's like groundhog day with the Cubs.

 

Sammy leaving early, Farsworth kicking a fan, Corey going to see a shrink (discussed).

 

I use to make fun of the way the Brewers and Reds were ran. Not anymore.

[J.R.]

Former Mets catcher Mackey Sasser once saw a shrink in an effort to renew his ability to properly return the ball to the pitcher, and everyone knew about it, way back in the pre-web days. Of course, those were also the pre-HIPAA days.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

That's not right...putting something like that public. Dusty, you jerk.