Prior's warmup regimen

[thedaymen]

Anyone else notice how bad Mark has been in the first inning this year, and how he often settles down for the rest of the game?

 

Anyone think the Cubs need to work with him to change his warmup routine?

[LoneStarCubFan]

I'm sure the new pitching coach will.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'm sure the new pitching coach will.

 

WHAT NEW PITCHING COACH? ROTHSCHILD GET CANNED?

 

:priest:

[CuseCubFan69]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

[Yeti]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say Cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

[CuseCubFan69]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

 

Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point.

[sethuel1]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say Cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

I gotta say I'm enjoying the weird posts. it breaks the monotony of actual data pointing toward the Cubs' suckage.

[JC]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

 

Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point.

 

Look at the bright side.

 

You have the owners' meetings coming up after the season where there will be a lot of hype with little action.

 

Then, you'll have the Winter Meetings thereafter, again with a lot of hype and little action.

 

Next, hope will spring eternal as rumors will swirl up until ST that the Cubs will acquire some difference making player.

 

After that, news will come forth that Hendry has signed and extension. News of Dusty's extension will closely follow.

 

To top it off, Matt Murton will hit .654 in ST.

 

Of course, he will start the year in Iowa where Ronnie Cedeno will still be rehabbing gangrene infection that the Cubs failed to properly diagnose following surgery to fix his broken hand.

[dalgreen]

Look at the bright side.

 

You have the owners' meetings coming up after the season where there will be a lot of hype with little action.

 

Then, you'll have the Winter Meetings thereafter, again with a lot of hype and little action.

 

Next, hope will spring eternal as rumors will swirl up until ST that the Cubs will acquire some difference making player.

 

After that, news will come forth that Hendry has signed and extension. News of Dusty's extension will closely follow.

 

To top it off, Matt Murton will hit .654 in ST.

 

Of course, he will start the year in Iowa where Ronnie Cedeno will still be rehabbing gangrene infection that the Cubs failed to properly diagnose following surgery to fix his broken hand.

 

:lmao:

[Yeti]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

 

Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point.

i hear ya, as ive given up on the seaso, the thing that frustrates me the most is all this talk of contract extensions. i'm not sure if i can handle 2 more years of this crap...if it happens i might have to change my name to 29yearsB4givingup(actually it would be 31 if i updated the actual years)

[thedaymen]

Not a big grabber for a topic, huh?

 

Its just something I've been wondering about. I've noticed Prior and Rusch have both gotten "larger" (thrown together with Maddux and Z and the Cubs may have the most overweight staff in the majors...I'm sure Williams will be carbo-loading this offseason.), so I've wondered about their conditioning.

 

I've also noticed that Prior has a nightmare first and then pitches well frequently....last night, in Philly, the Sunday night game against the Cards on ESPN...there must be something wrong with the way he's preparing for games, because he's not hitting his stride until around pitch 40.

[sethuel1]

Not a big grabber for a topic, huh?

 

Its just something I've been wondering about. I've noticed Prior and Rusch have both gotten "larger" (thrown together with Maddux and Z and the Cubs may have the most overweight staff in the majors...I'm sure Williams will be carbo-loading this offseason.), so I've wondered about their conditioning.

 

I've also noticed that Prior has a nightmare first and then pitches well frequently....last night, in Philly, the Sunday night game against the Cards on ESPN...there must be something wrong with the way he's preparing for games, because he's not hitting his stride until around pitch 40.

 

Actually Zambrano is significantly smaller than he used to be.

[Yeti]

Not a big grabber for a topic, huh?

 

Its just something I've been wondering about. I've noticed Prior and Rusch have both gotten "larger" (thrown together with Maddux and Z and the Cubs may have the most overweight staff in the majors...I'm sure Williams will be carbo-loading this offseason.), so I've wondered about their conditioning.

 

I've also noticed that Prior has a nightmare first and then pitches well frequently....last night, in Philly, the Sunday night game against the Cards on ESPN...there must be something wrong with the way he's preparing for games, because he's not hitting his stride until around pitch 40.

sorry to hijack your thread there daymen.

i origonally read this thread to see what others thought about the topic. as i dont watch games anymore(sometimes listen on the radio) i cant really say much about the way that prior has been pitching, but i have noticed that he has been less than stellar in the first inning of late.

[CuseCubFan69]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

 

Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point.

 

Look at the bright side.

 

You have the owners' meetings coming up after the season where there will be a lot of hype with little action.

 

Then, you'll have the Winter Meetings thereafter, again with a lot of hype and little action.

 

Next, hope will spring eternal as rumors will swirl up until ST that the Cubs will acquire some difference making player.

 

After that, news will come forth that Hendry has signed and extension. News of Dusty's extension will closely follow.

 

To top it off, Matt Murton will hit .654 in ST.

 

Of course, he will start the year in Iowa where Ronnie Cedeno will still be rehabbing gangrene infection that the Cubs failed to properly diagnose following surgery to fix his broken hand.

 

:lol: Nice brightside JC. Go Cubs!!!!!!

[CuseCubFan69]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

 

Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point.

i hear ya, as ive given up on the seaso, the thing that frustrates me the most is all this talk of contract extensions. i'm not sure if i can handle 2 more years of this crap...if it happens i might have to change my name to 29yearsB4givingup(actually it would be 31 if i updated the actual years)

 

I won't give up because Dickie V told me not to. Go Cubs!!!!

[Yeti]

Dusty made Prior a really nice dinner and it took him too long to eat it...that's why he wasn't warmed up.

 

i gotta say cuse, your posts are getting increasingly weird as this season progresses down the toilet...I take it that you're pretty well disgusted wth Johnny B.'s antics?

 

Frustrated beyond my control 29yl. Sarcasm is my only hope for Cub sanity at this point.

i hear ya, as ive given up on the seaso, the thing that frustrates me the most is all this talk of contract extensions. i'm not sure if i can handle 2 more years of this crap...if it happens i might have to change my name to 29yearsB4givingup(actually it would be 31 if i updated the actual years)

 

I won't give up because Dickie V told me not to. Go Cubs!!!!

now thats funny!!!

[CuseCubFan69]

Not a big grabber for a topic, huh?

 

Its just something I've been wondering about. I've noticed Prior and Rusch have both gotten "larger" (thrown together with Maddux and Z and the Cubs may have the most overweight staff in the majors...I'm sure Williams will be carbo-loading this offseason.), so I've wondered about their conditioning.

 

I've also noticed that Prior has a nightmare first and then pitches well frequently....last night, in Philly, the Sunday night game against the Cards on ESPN...there must be something wrong with the way he's preparing for games, because he's not hitting his stride until around pitch 40.

 

Sorry! :oops:

 

I used to have a kid that did this. Once he got going no one could touch him but that first inning was one tough hombre. Never did fix the problem.

[thedaymen]

No guys, I don't care about the hijacking, I was serious...it wasn't much of a grabber which tells me a) nobody else has noticed or b) its not really an issue, I just remember the bad innings for Prior for some reason.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Prior is the one with the really specific pregame routine, the same one he's been doing forever with the sequencing from the towels to pitches(among other things), correct? Unusual, since the last 2 years he's been downright bad in the first inning, and in '03 he was lights out(.187/.241/.234/.475 line against)

[Yeti]

No guys, I don't care about the hijacking, I was serious...it wasn't much of a grabber which tells me a) nobody else has noticed or b) its not really an issue, I just remember the bad innings for Prior for some reason.

actually it is something that i was wondering about during his last 2 starts, although i really have no legitimate insight into the subject

[UK1679666180]

Increasing his workload before the game could potentially be a disaster later on in the game. You add on early, you'll be taking away later on in the game.

 

Think the Cubs coaching staff would contemplate the thought of since we worked him harder before the game, so we should monitor his fatigue level earlier and maybe pull him earlier than we used to? I don't.

 

His location hasn't been as good as it once was, especially early in the ballgame.

 

I would tinker with what he is doing in the pregame rather than how much he is doing in the pregame.

[Yeti]

Increasing his workload before the game could potentially be a disaster later on in the game. You add on early, you'll be taking away later on in the game.

 

Think the Cubs coaching staff would contemplate the thought of since we worked him harder before the game, so we should monitor his fatigue level earlier and maybe pull him earlier than we used to? I don't.

 

His location hasn't been as good as it once was, especially early in the ballgame.

 

I would tinker with what he is doing in the pregame rather than how much he is doing in the pregame.

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.

i dunno, just a thought

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Increasing his workload before the game could potentially be a disaster later on in the game. You add on early, you'll be taking away later on in the game.

 

Think the Cubs coaching staff would contemplate the thought of since we worked him harder before the game, so we should monitor his fatigue level earlier and maybe pull him earlier than we used to? I don't.

 

His location hasn't been as good as it once was, especially early in the ballgame.

 

I would tinker with what he is doing in the pregame rather than how much he is doing in the pregame.

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.

i dunno, just a thought

 

But ultimately Prior is going to be throwing the same number of pitches in the game, just hopefully stretched out over more innings. There won't be any pitches saved by him being more effective.

[Yeti]

Increasing his workload before the game could potentially be a disaster later on in the game. You add on early, you'll be taking away later on in the game.

 

Think the Cubs coaching staff would contemplate the thought of since we worked him harder before the game, so we should monitor his fatigue level earlier and maybe pull him earlier than we used to? I don't.

 

His location hasn't been as good as it once was, especially early in the ballgame.

 

I would tinker with what he is doing in the pregame rather than how much he is doing in the pregame.

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.

i dunno, just a thought

 

But ultimately Prior is going to be throwing the same number of pitches in the game, just hopefully stretched out over more innings. There won't be any pitches saved by him being more effective.

long innings contribute greatly to fatigue as well, its entirely possible that if these 30-40 pitch innings are eliminated, he may actually be able to throw more pitches in a game thus going even deeper into games

[UK1679666180]

Increasing his workload before the game could potentially be a disaster later on in the game. You add on early, you'll be taking away later on in the game.

 

Think the Cubs coaching staff would contemplate the thought of since we worked him harder before the game, so we should monitor his fatigue level earlier and maybe pull him earlier than we used to? I don't.

 

His location hasn't been as good as it once was, especially early in the ballgame.

 

I would tinker with what he is doing in the pregame rather than how much he is doing in the pregame.

in theory increasing his work load b4 the game will shorten his outing, but when you consider that he's throwing 30-40 pitches in the first inning, it might be better to increase his pre game load in a controlled setting rather than have him throw 35 pitches in a game situation.

i dunno, just a thought

 

For me, it's not about increasing his IP, it's about limiting his workload throughout the season. You're only talking about increasing the IP while increasing the workload.