8/15 Cubs (Rusch) @ Astros (Rodriguez) 7:05 CSNC

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

[CubfaninCA]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Wait, you want Reuter over Hill, Mitre or Welly? Reuter had success when he could get that FB up over 80 mph.

 

I'd rather lose 8 - 4 than 15 -4.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

was my assesment on his pitches correct? I reeally dont know anything about him other then the occasional call up for these types of games, then he disappears to Iowa.

 

I'd say his changeup is better than ok, but otherwise, I think you're right. I think those 3 pitches are enough to get by as a competent #5 starter in this day and age.

[abuck1220]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

[Blueheart05]

Question. With the talk of Hairston coming back soon, Who is either gonna get send down or let go? Hopefully not Murton, but I'm scared that's what's gonna happen.

 

I dont think they'd send Murton down. He's proven to be a better hitter than Hairston IMO. The talk, before JHJ got hurt was that he was going to be waived. It makes more sense to get rid of Hollandsworth (now that we have Lawton) but I dont see that happening now... Holla's stock has fallen mightily. He isn't even the first lefty off the bench. We'll see what happens.

[abuck1220]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Wait, you want Reuter over Hill, Mitre or Welly? Reuter had success when he could get that FB up over 80 mph.

 

I'd rather lose 8 - 4 than 15 -4.

 

what are your feelings on losing 12-4?

[CubsHawks25]

Here's my wishlist for tomorrow's staring lineup;

 

CF Rusch

2B Wood

1B Maddux

3B Prior

RF Wellemeyer

SS Blanco

LF Barrett

C Garciapparra

P Macias

[minnesotacubsfan]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

was my assesment on his pitches correct? I reeally dont know anything about him other then the occasional call up for these types of games, then he disappears to Iowa.

 

I'd say his changeup is better than ok, but otherwise, I think you're right. I think those 3 pitches are enough to get by as a competent #5 starter in this day and age.

 

 

I can see the desire to want to see Mitre, Welle, Hill over Glendon. I just never really thought of Welle as a starter. I rreeealllly think Rusch is reverting to pre-Cub Glendon.........bad bad bbbbbbbbbaaaaaaaaaddddddd

[Schwarber Fan]

Top 8th

 

Neifi Perez grounds out 6-3

Todd Hollandsworth grounds out 6-3

Nomar Garciaparra flies out to deep CF

 

Cubs 4, Astros 12

 

IF NE 1 CARES, THAT WAS MY 800TH POST

[CubfaninCA]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

 

I'll give Rusch a shot. The other 3 shouldn't be starting in a wildcard chase.

[CubsHawks25]

BWAHHAHAHAA!!

 

Gremlin with the bad throw and Hollandsworthless with the non-catch!! LOL, too funny!!!!!

[Brian]

Ohman got 3 up 3 down against 3 righties (ignoring the AAA defense), which is good to see.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

 

I'll give Rusch a shot. The other 3 shouldn't be starting in a wildcard chase.

 

WHAT? did you see what Rusch did tonite???????

[CubsHawks25]

Ohman got 3 up 3 down against 3 righties (ignoring the AAA defense), which is good to see.

 

 

AAA?? Hey man, don't be disrespecting my I-Cubs now....

[Blueheart05]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

I know you're kidding but I have to say it anyway. We have to stop blaming baker for everything. These guys are making Major league money and they have to earn their pay. Baker isn't walking 5 batters in an inning or making errors. These guys have to play well

 

On a bright note, Ohman is a good pitcher who isn't getting much credit for the season he's had thus far. He can have control problems too but more often than not, he gets his man.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Wait, you want Reuter over Hill, Mitre or Welly? Reuter had success when he could get that FB up over 80 mph.

 

I'd rather lose 8 - 4 than 15 - 4.

 

And Reuter is going to help accomplish that?

 

2-7, 5.95 ERA, 25 Ks, 47 BBs, 1.66 WHIP and a low 80s fastball.

 

I'd rather the Cubs try to see what they have with the youth for next year rather than try another veteran.

[CubfaninCA]

I want JVB, but then someone's going to have to be released from the 40-man but I doubt they'd do it.

 

Release Wellemeyer. No loss @ all.

 

Majorly disagree.

 

raisin, what do you see in Welle?

 

He has the pitches to be a bottom of the order starter - he posted an ERA of 3 at AAA in 11 starts this year. He could also be a good set-up man. The Cubs need to give him a proper role and not dust him off once every week in blow outs.

 

 

I dont mean to pick a bone with you, but I dont see it. lower to mid 90's fastball, ok slider, changup...and limited success at AAA.

 

it seems like every time he gets called up his head implodes and he cant find the strikezone. do you think he needs to start?

 

He needs regular playing time to succeed. He doesn't get it in the big leagues (except for about two weeks in May) and that's why I think he struggles more with his control in the big leagues. He gets proper playing time in the minors and does well.

 

If only Choi could play ever day......

 

And the song plays on.... It's Dusty fault. doo dooo. Dusty's fault. dooo dooo. It rained today and was Dusty's fault. doo doooo

:D

 

it'd be one thing if your boy glendon had pitched well tonight and you were over here taunting people about their preference for youngsters. it's just mind-boggling that you're still doing it after rusch got rocked.

 

It's one poor game. The guy hasn't started for a few months. His ERA was 3.32 as a starter. He was the best option for tonight.

[CubsHawks25]

Just 1 more half-inning to go... THANK YOU GOD!!!!

[Brian]

Ohman got 4 righties out that inning, and most have them looked foolish in doing so. OHman = stud.

[Schwarber Fan]

Randy Winn hit for the cycle

[Wheelimus]

I have NEVER been happier that a game is on CSN Chicago and thus I don't get to see it....

 

Wow, just wow, what's it like watching a live action implosion?

[Blueheart05]

Top 8th

 

Neifi Perez grounds out 6-3

Todd Hollandsworth grounds out 6-3

Nomar Garciaparra flies out to deep CF

 

Cubs 4, Astros 12

 

IF NE 1 CARES, THAT WAS MY 800TH POST

 

Congrats!

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

 

I'll give Rusch a shot. The other 3 shouldn't be starting in a wildcard chase.

 

IMO, if you still think you're in the hunt, you play matchups with the 5th starter. For a team like the Astros, who are heavily right handed and whose best hitter is a switch hitter, I'd go with the Right hander(Welly/Mitre). If you're facing a team like the Reds or Phillies, teams whose best hitters are LH, then you go with the lefty(Rusch/Hill).

 

If you don't think you're in the hunt(which is the likely case if we lose this series), then I say you start the younger guys to get them experience and evaluate what you have.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Bottom of the order starter for Cincy perhaps. This isn't a small market team. They guy's going on 27. Throw the towel in.

 

If he can't make it here, then he's a commodity that can be sent to the teams that can use him. Why do you want Welly cut from the organization, yet clamor for Rueter to be signed?

 

What can the Cubs get for him?? Seriously?

 

Could catch lightning in a bottle w/ Reuter. At least he's had success in the majors, and can't be much worse than Hill, Mitre or Welly.

 

Not by himself, using him as part of a package he's a valuable component. Besides, he's not taking anyone's space that's needed before the end of the season, no need to be wasteful by cutting him. Rueter has been terrible. We're better off seeing what we have in Rusch/Hill/Mitre/Welly/etc. than hoping to get 4 good starts out of a guy who never had good stuff whose age is catching up to him.

 

I'll give Rusch a shot. The other 3 shouldn't be starting in a wildcard chase.

 

Obviously Rusch did fantastic today.

 

And the Cubs aren't in the wildcard chase.

[CubsHawks25]

Ohman got 4 righties out that inning, and most have them looked foolish in doing so. OHman = stud.

 

 

Its a shame that Ohman's name isn't Ohfaise instead.

 

(get it?? "O-face"?)

 

Guh... sorry, just trying to make a funny out of the hilarity that was this game.