8/10 Dunn and Mercker's Reds (Milton) @ Cubs (Hill) 1:20 CSN

[dalgreen]

hendry got rameriz because he was horrible with pittsburgh, they were paying him a bunch of cash and he hadn't produced since he signed his big deal...he had 23 errors in half a season there...they dumped his salary- they did not try to get equal value...it worked out but it was a huge gamble.

same with lee, he was aproductive player who was due a big raise that florida as a frabchise usually does not pay...they got a young cheap guy they hoped would develop. hendry's best move

we were a game from the series just 2 years ago and we had just a few things to do in order really take a shot at it ...now with all of hendry's genius we are worse than cincy. that's right we are the 2nd worse team in the central and maybe only better than the dodgers and rockies in the league...yeah, great job of putting together a team!

 

He got Ramirez because he DID HIS HOMEWORK. Name another team that was hot after Ramirez at that time? If other teams knew ARam would be a legit MVP candidate, don't you think other teams would have made an offer for Ramirez. Him getting ARam wasn't lucky, he bought low, like a good businessman. Plus don't forget Hendry was a head coach (Creighton University) at one point in his career, so maybe he coaching part of his personality felt he could help Ramirez.

 

I'm sorry, YES Hendry has made mistakes, but contrary to popular belief Hendry isn't a GOD. Would he like to upgrade the bullpen.....who wouldn't? Would he like to get a leadoff man....again who wouldn't? Bullpen help is such a yr-to-yr basis, you don't if a reliever is going to be good from yr to yr. Finding quality bullpen help is not easiest to do, considering there is ah.............29 other teams DOING THE SAME THING. On the leadoff guy...name a leadoff guy who is available, that a team isn't asking for the moon for? You can't blame Hendry, entirely, for something he can't control.

 

But I do agree, if Baker is fire---which I believe he will but it will mutally agreed upon---then the pressure will be on Hendry to build a championship caliber team for 06.

 

If you want to hate on Hendry....go for it, I can't tell you not to (same to you dalgreen), but you would be misplacing you haterade.

 

I'm not following. It's okay to be angry at Baker, but not Hendry? :-k

[Wild_Cubs04]

HR cuts the lead in half. Come Cory Show me something.

 

Well, he didn't K :)

[USSoccer]

3-run jack for Corey here...I'm calling it....

 

I'm calling it...a flyout of medium depth.

[neely crenshaw]

we were "this close" to the series and he added nothing and made more holes in the outfield and bullpen and hasn't filled them...

 

actually after being "this close" to the series, he made a ton of additions (2003->2004). AFter the complete failure of that team down the stretch, he didn't add, but subtracted (2004->2005).

 

they added maddux. they did not add a clsoer. they did not add a lead off man..they added an injury riddle shortstop at break(after needing it all year) from a team that didn't want him anymore. they added perez and macias and grieve...so on...what i mean is what of substance did he add. what hole did he fill...heck the freakin' devil rays add players every year that doesn't mean they are fixin' the team.

[USSoccer]

Now if Dusty goes with Williamson for a 2nd inning....

[TruffleShuffle]

Haha. Mesmer just said "future hall of famer" Ryne Sandberg. Someone needs to tell Mesmer that Ryno is in the Hall of Fame now.

How emabrrassing.

 

Hey the team on the field has mailed it in, why shouldn't the rest of the folks at Wrigley Field do the same?

[XZero771679666304]

haterade? grow up

 

who put this rotting pile of dung together as a team? jim hendry....

 

we were "this close" to the series and he added nothing and made more holes in the outfield and bullpen and hasn't filled them...

 

call it what you want but if you spend 100 mil for a team and it is battling pittsburgh for last and not st louis for first-YOU DID NOT DO YOUR JOB

 

I suppose you think Dusty did the best he could? :roll:

 

Who is more responsible, the guy who builds the half-assed ship, or the guy who pilots it into the rocks? Both are responsible.

 

I pointed out quite a few example of how Dusty alone cost us games, and I challenge you to refute them. I am not trying to absolve Hendry, but saying this is all his fault is ridiculous. There is no one scapegoat for this mess.

[johnnyba99]

Now if Dusty goes with Williamson for a 2nd inning....

 

you called it

[wastra]

If people want to rip Corey at least be fair and boo Burnitz as well. Corey has 1/3 of the amount of hits as Burnitz in 24 fewer ABs in August

 

Burnitz might be playing poorly lately but his BA is roughly equal to Corey's OBP. Burnitz has been average, which was what he was expected to be this year.... Corey has been really awful.

 

Burnitz is not average.

 

Average ML Ofer with 100+ at bats:

 

Average OFer Burnitz

OBP .353 .324

SLG .465 .443

OPS .818 .767

 

 

he's below average.

[J.R.]

I've posted this before, but I'm becoming more and more inclined to believe that Bartman Night just ruined this window for us. It killed our players' souls, freaked out the fans and robbed Baker of whatever skills he possessed prior.

 

Our guys have lacked swagger, moxie, poise - whatever you call it - ever since then. We just can't put anything together over an extended period.

[imb]

Williamson in for another inning? You have to be kidding me.

[USSoccer]

Now if Dusty goes with Williamson for a 2nd inning....

 

you called it

 

Oh good god. It as if he's trying to run the team into the ground....

 

I said it once before:

 

Half eaten breakfast>>Dusty.

[E.J.]

Williamson in for another inning? You have to be kidding me.

 

Williamson is not in. He only pitched the one inning. Novoa is pitching.

[neely crenshaw]

bottom line is this:

 

the team is awful, it is not even close..

the manager is bad

the once great farm system has very little of value anymore and what we do have we can not afford to give up because they are the one semblence of hope(pie,dobriak, murton?)

 

i think dusty will go soon because hendry has to blame someone, if not the 2 of them will rot on the vine together!

[mjohnson71]

Cards just won with their AAA lineup: only two starters. They swept the Brewers while we can't win a game.

 

Wednesday Card lineup.

SS Eckstein, David

LF Rodriguez, John

RF Taguchi, So

CF Edmonds, Jim

2B Luna, Hector

3B Nunez, Abraham

1B Seabol, Scott

C Diaz, Einar

P Suppan, Jeff

[XZero771679666304]

we were "this close" to the series and he added nothing and made more holes in the outfield and bullpen and hasn't filled them...

 

actually after being "this close" to the series, he made a ton of additions (2003->2004). AFter the complete failure of that team down the stretch, he didn't add, but subtracted (2004->2005).

 

they added maddux. they did not add a clsoer. they did not add a lead off man..they added an injury riddle shortstop at break(after needing it all year) from a team that didn't want him anymore. they added perez and macias and grieve...so on...what i mean is what of substance did he add. what hole did he fill...heck the freakin' devil rays add players every year that doesn't mean they are fixin' the team.

 

After 2004 Hendry suggested Dempster as the closer. Hendry suggested Ryan again in ST, and it looked like they were going to go with him, but Dusty decided at the last minute to start Ryan and go with Hawkins. Many lost games later, Ryan was the closer, and guess what? He's been pretty damn good. How was that Hendry's fault again?

[sethuel1]

Williamson in for another inning? You have to be kidding me.

 

Williamson is not in. He only pitched the one inning. Novoa is pitching.

 

Stop trying to make us feel better.

[imb]

Williamson in for another inning? You have to be kidding me.

 

Williamson is not in. He only pitched the one inning. Novoa is pitching.

 

Ok, Sportsline has him still in, weird.

[johnnyba99]

I've posted this before, but I'm becoming more and more inclined to believe that Bartman Night just ruined this window for us. It killed our players' souls, freaked out the fans and robbed Baker of whatever skills he possessed prior.

 

Our guys have lacked swagger, moxie, poise - whatever you call it - ever since then. We just can't put anything together over an extended period.

 

Ever since that night the team has collectively become excuse makers. For all teh talk of Dusty being a good motivator, I haven't seen it. Take a look at the Cards lineup the last week, those guys are bums for the most part and tehy just keep winning.

[XZero771679666304]

I've posted this before, but I'm becoming more and more inclined to believe that Bartman Night just ruined this window for us. It killed our players' souls, freaked out the fans and robbed Baker of whatever skills he possessed prior.

 

Our guys have lacked swagger, moxie, poise - whatever you call it - ever since then. We just can't put anything together over an extended period.

 

I agree to a degree. Either way, house cleaning is in order. This team is tainted.

[neely crenshaw]

 

Who is more responsible, the guy who builds the half-assed ship, or the guy who pilots it into the rocks? Both are responsible.

 

 

this is the best analogy i have ever heard! that is exactly how i feel! i just think too many people give hendry the pass on this garbage

[mjohnson71]

At least we got through the top of the 8th without giving up any more runs.

[katway]

Williamson in for another inning? You have to be kidding me.

 

](*,)

[E.J.]

Williamson in for another inning? You have to be kidding me.

 

Williamson is not in. He only pitched the one inning. Novoa is pitching.

 

Stop trying to make us feel better.

 

OK. Nevermind. I was just kidding. Return to the ranting. :wink:

[dalgreen]

we were "this close" to the series and he added nothing and made more holes in the outfield and bullpen and hasn't filled them...

 

actually after being "this close" to the series, he made a ton of additions (2003->2004). AFter the complete failure of that team down the stretch, he didn't add, but subtracted (2004->2005).

 

they added maddux. they did not add a clsoer. they did not add a lead off man..they added an injury riddle shortstop at break(after needing it all year) from a team that didn't want him anymore. they added perez and macias and grieve...so on...what i mean is what of substance did he add. what hole did he fill...heck the freakin' devil rays add players every year that doesn't mean they are fixin' the team.

 

After 2004 Hendry suggested Dempster as the closer. Hendry suggested Ryan again in ST, and it looked like they were going to go with him, but Dusty decided at the last minute to start Ryan and go with Hawkins. Many lost games later, Ryan was the closer, and guess what? He's been pretty damn good. How was that Hendry's fault again?

 

I thought you said both guys are at fault. But to answer your question, I blame managers and GM for decisions or lack of decisions made. What were some of the alternatives considering the reason why Dempster had to start was because we were without Prior and Wood to start the season?