Any Chance Of Jerry Hairston, Jr. Clearing Waivers?

[HoopsCubs]

4 interesting facts:

 

(1) Jerry Hairston had a .304 OBP in July when given the chance to start everyday after whining about lack of playing time earlier in the year.

 

(2) Matt Lawton (.431 OBP in July) was acquired.

 

(3) Bruce Levine stated last night, and again this morning that the Cubs are strongly leaning towards bringing Corey Patterson up in 7-10 days.

 

(4) Dusty Baker dislikes Hairston, and Jim Hendry's comment in June about a ballplayer like Hairston needing to play smarter.

 

The Twins need a 2B. If he clears, the Cubs should move Hairston, Jr. up north. And, even if someone claims him, I say let them have him. Hairston no longer has a role on this team in 2005 and beyond. Lawton will probably a Cub in 2006 or Felix Pie will be the leadoff hitter playing CF, and the Cubs will re-sign Todd Walker.

 

Just let him go!

 

Hoops

[treebird]

do you really think the cubs would want to own up to trading sammy sosa for mike fontenot?

[HoopsCubs]

do you really think the cubs would want to own up to trading sammy sosa for mike fontenot?

 

water under the bridge my friend... everyone (fans, cubs, critics, etc...) should just look forward.

[Sabermetrician]

I want details on a possible contract extension before jumping on a "Lawton-on-the-Cubs-in-06-and-beyond" bandwagon. I'm excited about the acquistion, but I had assumed it would only be a half year rental.

 

I don't know if the Twins would be very interested in Hairston anymore. With Hunter out for the season, I don't think the Twins have much of a chance at the playoffs and I'm not sure they'd want to keep Hairston after this season. Since Bartlett was recalled today, it wouldn't surprise me if the Twins brought some other guys up to see how they do.

[RynoRules]

do you really think the cubs would want to own up to trading sammy sosa for mike fontenot?

 

That is pretty much exactly what I was thinking.

[soapy]

I still think Hairston can serve a purpose on this team as a backup. He can back up 2B and every OF position. If you're going to cut someone loose, it should be Macias. Neifi can play 3rd if there is a problem with Ramirez and Cedeno can play SS if necessary. I don't see any possible use for Macias at this point. Especially if/when Patterson is recalled.

 

If there was a chance in getting something in return for Hairston, maybe.

[Blueheart05]

4 interesting facts:

 

(1) Jerry Hairston had a .304 OBP in July when given the chance to start everyday after whining about lack of playing time earlier in the year.

 

(2) Matt Lawton (.431 OBP in July) was acquired.

 

(3) Bruce Levine stated last night, and again this morning that the Cubs are strongly leaning towards bringing Corey Patterson up in 7-10 days.

 

(4) Dusty Baker dislikes Hairston, and Jim Hendry's comment in June about a ballplayer like Hairston needing to play smarter.

 

The Twins need a 2B. If he clears, the Cubs should move Hairston, Jr. up north. And, even if someone claims him, I say let them have him. Hairston no longer has a role on this team in 2005 and beyond. Lawton will probably a Cub in 2006 or Felix Pie will be the leadoff hitter playing CF, and the Cubs will re-sign Todd Walker.

 

Just let him go!

 

Hoops

 

George Ofman from The Score, who also works the Cubs beat, made the same prediction about Corey coming up soon and Jerry being wavied. Maybe that's the rumor at Wrigley?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'll be the first to admit that I don't know squat about the Twins farm system. What do they have in a Hairston price range to ship back?

[stitchface]

so, we judge hairston on one month and replace with a player on his downside? Sounds pretty short-sighted to me. To waive hairston and keep macias would be absurdly dumb . . . and very cub-like. I don't much care for judging a player on one month or even worse, on dusty's opinion of him. Hairston's .304 is still better than neifi, macias, or corey.

[Flames24Rulz]

the only way i want Hairston to be on waivers is if he's involved in a trade for Griffey. Other then that, it makes ZERO sense to release him.

[Electron Blue]

so, we judge hairston on one month and replace with a player on his downside? Sounds pretty short-sighted to me. To waive hairston and keep macias would be absurdly dumb . . . and very cub-like. I don't much care for judging a player on one month or even worse, on dusty's opinion of him. Hairston's .304 is still better than neifi, macias, or corey.

 

What do you mean one month? Also, I think Hoops is suggesting this (instead of cutting Macias) only because it's much more likely.

[cubsfaninfla]

If you're going to cut someone loose, it should be Macias.

 

Will people lay off Macias? I mean, he's hit .287, and is pretty good off the bench. He's filling in his role pretty damn good if I say so myself.

[MattyJLCC]

I'd be really dissapointed if Hairston Jr. was let go. I dont feel there's any legit reason to release a utility guy like Jerry who functions well in the role of being a super sub. He may not be a starter quality outside of 2B, but he's functioned decently at CF filling in for a inept Patterson. Granted, he's not done great, but he's done better than Patterson who he replaced. I don't understand why Patterson may possibly be brought up when he still seems to be struggling in AAA (I know about the flu stuff, but still think he's not seemed to turn the corner).

 

Hairston still has a decent amount of value for our team and for other teams. I think many teams would love to have a guy like Jerry on their team and I highly doubt he'd clear waivers. If we're going to get rid of him, he better bring us something of value, even if it's prospects. Losing him and gaining nothing would be a really stupid, stupid move on the part of cub management.

[stitchface]

Jerry Hairston had a .304 OBP in July when given the chance to start everyday after whining about lack of playing time earlier in the year.

 

July would constitute one month on my calendar. Macias is an awful awful player.

[10man]

do you really think the cubs would want to own up to trading sammy sosa for mike fontenot?

I think that right now sammy sosa is hitting like mike fontenot.

[NorthsideAvenger]

do you really think the cubs would want to own up to trading sammy sosa for mike fontenot?

 

Well, right now...getting Fontenot for Sosa is a HECK OF A DEAL for the Cubs. And don't the Orioles still owe the Cubs a player, consider Crouthers retire, unexpectedly?

[JC]

do you really think the cubs would want to own up to trading sammy sosa for mike fontenot?

 

water under the bridge my friend... everyone (fans, cubs, critics, etc...) should just look forward.

 

Hoops = Mark McGuire?

:wink:

[YearofDaCubs]

This is crazy. We def have other players on the 25man I would rather see be put on waivers than Hairston.

[Roast]

This is crazy. We def have other players on the 25man I would rather see be put on waivers than Hairston.

 

Uhh.. Okay, hoops, correct me if I'm wrong, but I beleive he was asking if he could CLEAR waivers, as in a trade. He's not saying release him, if he was, who would care if he cleared waivers. he wouldnt have to. He, I beleive, is asking that if we traded him somewhere, would he clear wiavers?

[SCCubbieFAN]

What's to prevent Hendry from contacting the GMs for the teams who will have first crack at taking Hairston via the waiver process to see if any of them has interest in Hairston? I believe the answer to that is nothing. Hendry can work out a pre-waiver wire deal with any team who says it will take Hairston if he is placed on waivers, and the Cubs can get back some prospects from that team who don't have to be placed on waivers.

[Roast]

What's to prevent Hendry from contacting the GMs for the teams who will have first crack at taking Hairston via the waiver process to see if any of them has interest in Hairston? I believe the answer to that is nothing. Hendry can work out a pre-waiver wire deal with any team who says it will take Hairston if he is placed on waivers, and the Cubs can get back some prospects from that team who don't have to be placed on waivers.

 

I think that is a very good Idea. But, unless you contact the number one suckiest team in all of baseball, its a legitament question, because you still have to clear waivers by SOME teams.

[JC]

What's to prevent Hendry from contacting the GMs for the teams who will have first crack at taking Hairston via the waiver process to see if any of them has interest in Hairston? I believe the answer to that is nothing. Hendry can work out a pre-waiver wire deal with any team who says it will take Hairston if he is placed on waivers, and the Cubs can get back some prospects from that team who don't have to be placed on waivers.

 

There is really no reason to contact them prior to a deal, is there? If you try to send him through the process, you can pull him back if he is claimed. In the event that he is claimed, you can always try to work a deal out at that time with the team.

 

Regardless, Hairston's salary, youth and versatility make him a pretty valuable asset to a team. I doubt he would get too far on the waiver wire. Bad teams may even want him if they can get him.

 

EDIT: Take out youth. I didn't realize he was 29 already. Regardless, I think he still has too much value to get through the waiver wire, depending, of course, where the trade partner is sitting.

[Wheelimus]

Yeah, it'd be recovable waivers, so you just see who all claims him, pull him back, and make a trade.

 

That is if they have no future plans for him on the team. I'd much rather DFA Macias and mold Hairston into his role. Hairston could in theory play every position averagely like Macias does, and he'd be a ulilityman who can get on base :)

[HoopsCubs]

This is crazy. We def have other players on the 25man I would rather see be put on waivers than Hairston.

 

Uhh.. Okay, hoops, correct me if I'm wrong, but I beleive he was asking if he could CLEAR waivers, as in a trade. He's not saying release him, if he was, who would care if he cleared waivers. he wouldnt have to. He, I beleive, is asking that if we traded him somewhere, would he clear wiavers?

 

Roast, thanks for saying it better. I'm not advocating a release at all. I asked if he could clear waivers to facilitate a trade. I suppose even if he was claimed, a trade could be made, but it is tougher. Hairston is in Murton's way right now, I would like Hendry to correct that problem because I doubt Dusty uses Hairston as a bench player. Hendry has to force the issue, and NOT give Dusty too many options.

 

Besides, you have to believe that the Cubs' preference for 2B next year is Walker first, Fontenot 2nd.

[SCCubbieFAN]

Yeah, it'd be recovable waivers, so you just see who all claims him, pull him back, and make a trade.

 

Doesn't work that way. Once you "pull him back" he cannot be traded. And if you pull him back and place him on waivers a second time, the second time has to be irrevocable waivers. The reason I suggested Hendry contact other teams BEFORE placing him on waivers is so a deal can be worked out ahead of time. If you simply place him on waivers and he is claimed, the claiming team does not "have to" work out a deal unless it really wants Hairston badly. If not, that team will have the upper hand in making a deal if the Cubs threaten to pull him back.