C-Pat is Making Adjustments .. Good Article

[louisvillecub]

 

When Corey was torching ST pitching, some people chose to point out the most recent "change". The "hold on to the bat with 2 hands on the follow through" change. This can, at times, be effective.....in Little League.

 

Bottom line, nobody in the organization has been able to isolate, or provide helpful criticism, of Corey's problems. This is the same organization that was so desperate for Sammy to move closer to the plate, even though he was hitting 60+ HR's a season standing the exact distance from the plate.

 

It is painful for me to continue listening to these obscene "suggestions" from all of the ex-hitters.

 

Before I get the usual response of "do you really think you know more about hitting than guys who have spent decades playing the game professionally?", allow me to respond.

 

Yes. I am beginning to believe that I know more about hitting than the entire Cubs coaching staff combined. Hold on to the bat with 2 hands on the release?.....are you kidding me?

 

If any of you are criticizing Corey for his release, long swing, stance, approach or discipline, please...I'm begging you....just stop. Corey's problems are even more basic than that...if you can imagine.

 

Based on what the pitchers it the NL know of Corey Patterson, and barring any mystery muscle growth (ala Barry Bonds), Corey is not going to bounce back. Either he is not listening, or he is getting poor advice. Considering the fact that he went into the season with a different release, I would assume that we can use this as proof that he is willing to listen to suggestions, regardless of the value of those suggestions.

 

For the record, I am not a "hindsight is 20-20" kind of guy. If any of you care to research, shortly into the beginning of the regular season, when Corey was actuallly hitting, I "predicted" he would have a terrible year. He is having a bad year only because he is receiving terrible advice from his coaching staff.

 

Nice to see you back, Lumafia! good post, too...

[UK1679666180]

MY personal opinion is that he can do anything he likes to his swing, but until he stops swinging at pitches over his head or in the dirt, none of it will matter anyway. Even mildly decent major league pitchers can exploit lack of patience.

 

And I am not really sure you can "teach" a batter's eye.

 

I've said this for quite some time, when a pitcher is throwing a side session, I'd have Corey stand in there (fully armored) and when the thought process clicks whether the pitch is a strike or a ball, I'd have him call the pitch and have a coach act as the ump. Next, you'd have to chart the pitches to see over an extended period of time, if he is improving at this exercise. This would do 2 things, it would likely carry over and get him to relax more when deciding in that millisecond whether that pitch is a ball or strike. Also, the more pitches he sees in that situation, it would likely improve his batting eye.

 

They might have tried it, but I have never heard of anything like this.

[chicubs]

"The Wrigley boo-birds that had gotten into LaTroy Hawkins' head turned their attention to center field. Nobody loves you and leaves you quite like Cubs fans."

 

So this is our new rep....

 

What an idiotic statement. Cubs fans have stood by their team for nearly 100 freakin years. We are allowed to be harsh on under-acheivers after all the crap we have had to endure.

[hawkeyecub]

"The Wrigley boo-birds that had gotten into LaTroy Hawkins' head turned their attention to center field. Nobody loves you and leaves you quite like Cubs fans."

 

So this is our new rep....

 

What an idiotic statement. Cubs fans have stood by their team for nearly 100 freakin years. We are allowed to be harsh on under-acheivers after all the crap we have had to endure.

 

Exactly how many of the fans at Wrigley or fans on this board have stood by the team and "endured all the crap" for nearly 100 years?

 

Most of the fans booing Corey have probably been a Cubs fan for 10-25 years, perhaps less in many cases. In reality they haven't gone longer without a championship than the Brewers, White Sox, Padres, Giants, Indians or Rangers fans.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

"The Wrigley boo-birds that had gotten into LaTroy Hawkins' head turned their attention to center field. Nobody loves you and leaves you quite like Cubs fans."

 

So this is our new rep....

 

What an idiotic statement. Cubs fans have stood by their team for nearly 100 freakin years. We are allowed to be harsh on under-acheivers after all the crap we have had to endure.

 

So you're taking out 100 years of frustration onto one player or a couple players?

[Sec 511 Die-hard]

"The Wrigley boo-birds that had gotten into LaTroy Hawkins' head turned their attention to center field. Nobody loves you and leaves you quite like Cubs fans."

 

So this is our new rep....

 

What an idiotic statement. Cubs fans have stood by their team for nearly 100 freakin years. We are allowed to be harsh on under-acheivers after all the crap we have had to endure.

 

So you're taking out 100 years of frustration onto one player or a couple players?

 

I really don't think that Cubs fans are simply booing CPat's lack of production. Those boos are Cubs fans who are pissed off at Corey's stubborness. The kid is 5'9 180 lbs. and runs a freakin' 4'4 40 yard dash. But, he insists that he is a "middle of the order guy". CPATT is EGO driven and wants to become the next Barry Bonds, instead of trying to be the next Rickey Henderson. People who point to Patterson's power and say that he should be a slugger are idiots. I believe that if ANY player with decent athletic ability swung out of his shoes every at bat, they would hit the ball out of the park occasionally as well. If Tony Gwinn Geoge Brett, Mark Grace, Don Mattingly, Rickey Henderson, or Any decent athlete wanted to - they could have pop as well. Of course, it would be at the expense of good contact.

 

So when I boo Corey - I'm booing his misunderstanding of how to play the game - not just the fact that he jumped out of his shoes swinging at the first pitch again.

[Cubzfan64]

MY personal opinion is that he can do anything he likes to his swing, but until he stops swinging at pitches over his head or in the dirt, none of it will matter anyway. Even mildly decent major league pitchers can exploit lack of patience.

 

And I am not really sure you can "teach" a batter's eye.

 

What you said is exactly how I feel about Corey - unless some new "stance" will improve how he sees the ball and allows him to be more selective I don't think any new swing will help him.

 

Pitchers exploit that lack of patience with him over and over again and will continue to do so until Corey can read the strikezone.

 

I saw someone mention some machine that can be used to build "eye control" or something, but I believe I saw where the Cubs don't use it because they don't have the room for it (I wish I could recall the thread). Something like that is what I'd put Corey into every single day and have him keep working on it until he can better identify where the ball is going.

 

Dang it's frustrating to root for a team where there have been a number of "potential" stars the last few years who just can't seem to get over the hump (Wood with his injuries, Farnsworth with his head or whatever and now Corey with his inability to read the strikezone).

[ZZ Thorn]

"The Wrigley boo-birds that had gotten into LaTroy Hawkins' head turned their attention to center field. Nobody loves you and leaves you quite like Cubs fans."

 

So this is our new rep....

 

What an idiotic statement. Cubs fans have stood by their team for nearly 100 freakin years. We are allowed to be harsh on under-acheivers after all the crap we have had to endure.

 

You do realize I was taking that from the article right...just checking.

 

Well, reps change. Sammy Sosa was a megastar, and the whole country saw how we booed him out of town. I think it's logical that such action could have slightly altered the perception of Cub fans. It makes sense to me that people would say, 'man, those Cubs sure turned on Sammy Sosa. Wasn't he their hero just last year or so?'

 

Then we run out LaTroy, then we boo Corey non-stop.... It's a different breed of Cub fan than year's past IMO.

 

Maybe it'll stick, maybe it won't.

[erik316wttn]

"The Wrigley boo-birds that had gotten into LaTroy Hawkins' head turned their attention to center field. Nobody loves you and leaves you quite like Cubs fans."

 

So this is our new rep....

 

What an idiotic statement. Cubs fans have stood by their team for nearly 100 freakin years. We are allowed to be harsh on under-acheivers after all the crap we have had to endure.

 

You do realize I was taking that from the article right...just checking.

 

Well, reps change. Sammy Sosa was a megastar, and the whole country saw how we booed him out of town. I think it's logical that such action could have slightly altered the perception of Cub fans. It makes sense to me that people would say, 'man, those Cubs sure turned on Sammy Sosa. Wasn't he their hero just last year or so?'

 

Then we run out LaTroy, then we boo Corey non-stop.... It's a different breed of Cub fan than year's past IMO.

 

Maybe it'll stick, maybe it won't.

 

This is a breed of Cub fan that won't just sit back and blindly accept crappy play and losing all the time. This is a breed of Cub fan that is tired of "waiting till next year" and wants a championship right now.

 

It's about time we voice our displeasure with this organization.

 

I'm not saying Corey should have been booed as much, but Sammy got a REALLY raw deal, and LaTroy..... well, I don't know about that. I think Corey deserved to be booed more than LaTroy because LaTroy didn't have any glaring errors (at least that I saw) that he just refused to fix. Corey did.

[treebird]

MY personal opinion is that he can do anything he likes to his swing, but until he stops swinging at pitches over his head or in the dirt, none of it will matter anyway. Even mildly decent major league pitchers can exploit lack of patience.

 

And I am not really sure you can "teach" a batter's eye.

 

I've said this for quite some time, when a pitcher is throwing a side session, I'd have Corey stand in there (fully armored) and when the thought process clicks whether the pitch is a strike or a ball, I'd have him call the pitch and have a coach act as the ump. Next, you'd have to chart the pitches to see over an extended period of time, if he is improving at this exercise. This would do 2 things, it would likely carry over and get him to relax more when deciding in that millisecond whether that pitch is a ball or strike. Also, the more pitches he sees in that situation, it would likely improve his batting eye.

 

They might have tried it, but I have never heard of anything like this.

 

I actually did this with the softball team I coached last summer. It was amazing how far off a few of the girls were with their concept of the strike zone was, especially on outside pitches. I think it really helped.

[DivineBovine]

MY personal opinion is that he can do anything he likes to his swing, but until he stops swinging at pitches over his head or in the dirt, none of it will matter anyway. Even mildly decent major league pitchers can exploit lack of patience.

 

And I am not really sure you can "teach" a batter's eye.

 

What you said is exactly how I feel about Corey - unless some new "stance" will improve how he sees the ball and allows him to be more selective I don't think any new swing will help him.

 

Pitchers exploit that lack of patience with him over and over again and will continue to do so until Corey can read the strikezone.

 

I saw someone mention some machine that can be used to build "eye control" or something, but I believe I saw where the Cubs don't use it because they don't have the room for it (I wish I could recall the thread). Something like that is what I'd put Corey into every single day and have him keep working on it until he can better identify where the ball is going.

 

Dang it's frustrating to root for a team where there have been a number of "potential" stars the last few years who just can't seem to get over the hump (Wood with his injuries, Farnsworth with his head or whatever and now Corey with his inability to read the strikezone).

 

 

Horribly frustrating. Some AB's, it almost seems like he decides before the pitch is made whether he's going to swing or not. Like seeing the pitch has nothing to do with his decision on whether to swing. It's not even like he's just flailing at pitches 2 feet out of the zone. He takes good pitches a lot.

[ZZ Thorn]

MY personal opinion is that he can do anything he likes to his swing, but until he stops swinging at pitches over his head or in the dirt, none of it will matter anyway. Even mildly decent major league pitchers can exploit lack of patience.

 

And I am not really sure you can "teach" a batter's eye.

 

Corey is looking like the Shawon Dunston of the new millenium (except Corey's not a thug).