Rockies (Feltner) vs Cubs (Cabrera): 6/16/26, 7:05pm

[Brock Beauchamp]

So, the Cubs couldn't get to Lorenzen, but managed to eke out a win anyway. So... well done?

	THU	FRI	SAT	SUN	MON	TOT
Trent Thornton	0	26	0	0	0	26
Ryan Rolison	17	0	0	11	0	28
Phil Maton	8	0	21	0	15	44
Javier Assad	0	85	0	0	0	85
Jacob Webb	0	0	0	8	14	22
Hoby Milner	10	14	0	13	0	37
Ethan Roberts	0	0	20	32	0	52
Daniel Palencia	0	0	0	0	20	20
Caleb Thielbar	0	0	23	0	15	38

 

[Tangled Up in Plaid]

Feltner is nearly as bad as Lorenzen so adjust expectations accordingly

[BKHoo]

Bregman

Hoerner

Swanson

MoBaller

 

It’s ok to get a hit with men on base. Really.  It’s ok to do that. 

[Derwood]

PCA's June OPS is 1.367

[cl smooth]

and now palencia is hurt (again):

 

 

[Papa Cub]

So…..when do people start looking into the Cubs’ pitching or training staff? The amount of injuries and guys on the IL (particularly all the pitchers) is not only ridiculous, but concerning. 
 

What a cluster horsefeathers

Edited 16 minutes ago by Papa Cub

[Jason Ross]

3 minutes ago, Papa Cub said:

So…..when do people start looking into the Cubs’ pitching or training staff? The amount of injuries and guys in the IL (particularly all the pitchers) is not only ridiculous, but concerning. 
 

What a cluster horsefeathers

They're pitchers. Notice a trend on most of the injuries? They're guys who throw super hard. And they're almost always an elbow or shoulder issue. This isn't a training issue. This a "this is what power arms do" issue. The Braves had 3 SPs go down with TJS in a week in March. These guys are doing what the human body is not meant to do. 

The reason the Cubs haven't seen this issue as often recently is in due part because they have had some of the lowest velo guys in the league. They added velo this year and all of a sudden the injuries followed. 

The Cubs need to continue to stockpile velo so that when the injuries happen they have some who haven't exploded. One of the issues is that when you're late to the velo party, you have less guys laying around to backfill. But we should all become used to pitching injuries...this is modern baseball for better or worse. 

[Papa Cub]

15 minutes ago, Jason Ross said:

They're pitchers. Notice a trend on most of the injuries? They're guys who throw super hard. And they're almost always an elbow or shoulder issue. This isn't a training issue. This a "this is what power arms do" issue. The Braves had 3 SPs go down with TJS in a week in March. These guys are doing what the human body is not meant to do. 

The reason the Cubs haven't seen this issue as often recently is in due part because they have had some of the lowest velo guys in the league. They added velo this year and all of a sudden the injuries followed. 

The Cubs need to continue to stockpile velo so that when the injuries happen they have some who haven't exploded. One of the issues is that when you're late to the velo party, you have less guys laying around to backfill. But we should all become used to pitching injuries...this is modern baseball for better or worse. 

Hey Jason - I’m not disagreeing with what you’re saying. Today’s pitchers focus a ton more on velocity and spin rate, so naturally it’s going to affect the ligaments at a higher rate.

I guess a better question would be this:

What training regimen did they use 20-30+ years ago that allowed pitchers to pitch every THIRD day as opposed to 5-6th day? Why were the injuries significantly lower then as compared to pitchers now? Nolan Ryan and Randy Johnson are outliers perhaps, but there were others with 92-96mph velo and “high spins” as well, yet they maintained (key word) a much heavier workload and did it for longevity. 
 

🤷‍♂️ - maybe training staffs shock take a page from that generation? 

Edited just now by Papa Cub