Help Dusty out: Create your own lineup!

[rabidawg900]

Remember folks, these are just opinions. Here is my ideal lineup:

 

Todd Walker, 2B

Jerry Hairston, CF

Derrek Lee, 1B

Aramis Ramirez, 3B

Jeromy Burnitz, RF

Ronny Cedeno, SS

Jason Dubois, LF

Michael Barrett, C

Pitcher's Spot

 

Where is Corey Patterson? Somewhere in Iowa...until Dusty is fired. (He is hitting only .239 with a .278 OBP!)

 

Hell, why not join his bro in Peoria? :D

Edited July 3, 2005 by rabidawg900

[polosprt009]

1- Hairston, CF

2- Walker, 2B

3- DLee, 1B

4- A-Ram, 3B

5- Burnitz, RF

6- Barrett, C

7- Hollandsworth, LF (.364ish in June)

8- Cedeno, SS

9- Pitcher

 

release Jose Macias

[rickrolled]

1. Todd Walker, 2B

2. Michael Barrett, C

3. Derrek Lee, 1B

4. Aramis Ramirez, 3B

5. Jeromy Burnitz, RF

6. Todd Hollandsworth, LF

7. Ronny Cedeno, SS

8. Corey Patterson, CF

[CaliforniaRaisin]

LF Hairston

2B Walker

1B Lee

3B Ramirez

RF Burnitz

C Barrett

CF Patterson

SS Cedeño

[rabidawg900]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well. Edited July 3, 2005 by rabidawg900

[Outshined_One]

2B T. Walker

SS R. Cedeno

1B D. Lee

RF J. Burnitz

3B A. Ramirez

LF J. Dubois

C M. Barrett

CF C. Patterson

[woodprior04]

2b-Walker

SS-Cedeno

1B-Lee

3b-Aram

Rf-Burnitz

C-Barrett

CF-Patterson

Lf-Holly

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well.

 

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

[polosprt009]

i dont think cedeno deserves a 1 or 2 spot just yet. he needs to prove himself lower in the order before he gets moved up.

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Walker

Cedeno

Lee

Aram

Barrett

Burnitz

Patterson

Hollandsworth

[rabidawg900]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well.

 

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

 

You're probably right, even though Burnitz does try to cleanup the bases with every swing. :shock:

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

1. Hairston CF

2. Walker 2B

3. Lee 1B

4. Burnitz RF

5. Ramirez 3B

6. Hollandsworth LF

7. Cedeno SS

8. Barrett C

[Outshined_One]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well.

 

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

 

I don't mind doing the lefty-righty split, to be honest with you. Burnitz has been struggling lately, but I think he's fine there. I could have them either way, but that's just a bit of a preference I have.

 

i dont think cedeno deserves a 1 or 2 spot just yet. he needs to prove himself lower in the order before he gets moved up.

 

I think he'd be well-suited to the two spot at this point. He'll see plenty of strikes hitting in front of Lee, has a very respectable AVG/OBP, and could contribute effectively there from the get-go. Might as well give him those opportunities and acclimate him to hitting at the top of the order, ya know?

[UMFan83]

 

i dont think cedeno deserves a 1 or 2 spot just yet. he needs to prove himself lower in the order before he gets moved up.

 

I think he'd be well-suited to the two spot at this point. He'll see plenty of strikes hitting in front of Lee, has a very respectable AVG/OBP, and could contribute effectively there from the get-go. Might as well give him those opportunities and acclimate him to hitting at the top of the order, ya know?

 

That is a logical theory, but don't forget good OBP in the minors doesn't always translate into good OBP once they get into the show. For instance, Dubois had a .389 OBP with Iowa last year, but since he's arrived in the majors he has had a terrible K/BB rate. Not saying this will happen to Cedeno, seeing as how he is a different type of player, but I still think that for now he needs to prove his ability to get on base consistantly in a less pressure filled position in the lineup.

[Outshined_One]

 

i dont think cedeno deserves a 1 or 2 spot just yet. he needs to prove himself lower in the order before he gets moved up.

 

I think he'd be well-suited to the two spot at this point. He'll see plenty of strikes hitting in front of Lee, has a very respectable AVG/OBP, and could contribute effectively there from the get-go. Might as well give him those opportunities and acclimate him to hitting at the top of the order, ya know?

 

That is a logical theory, but don't forget good OBP in the minors doesn't always translate into good OBP once they get into the show. For instance, Dubois had a .389 OBP with Iowa last year, but since he's arrived in the majors he has had a terrible K/BB rate. Not saying this will happen to Cedeno, seeing as how he is a different type of player, but I still think that for now he needs to prove his ability to get on base consistantly in a less pressure filled position in the lineup.

 

My personal theory is that Dubois' numbers would translate as expected from his career minor league numbers if he were allowed to play every day for long stretches of time instead of playing once every five days and used to PH.

[YearofDaCubs]

Cedeno

Walker

Lee

ARam

Burnitz

Holla/Dubois

Barrett

Patterson

PITCHER

 

OR:

 

Hairston - CF

Walker

Lee

ARam

Burnitz

Holla/DUbois

Barrett

Cedeno

[UMFan83]

Again, because Dubois is a different type of player then Cedeno, I could potentially buy that. But look at May, where he at one time started 17 out of 19 games. His numbers for May were less then stellar: .224/.268/.403/.671. How much time do we need to give him? Eventually he would catch on, as Cedeno might, but I don't think Cedeno is goin to go in there and be a perfect top of the order hitter without some time to adjust. If he does need adjusting, then you are just as well of hitting Neifi 2 as Cedeno.

[Outshined_One]

Again, because Dubois is a different type of player then Cedeno, I could potentially buy that. But look at May, where he at one time started 17 out of 19 games. His numbers for May were less then stellar: .224/.268/.403/.671. How much time do we need to give him? Eventually he would catch on, as Cedeno might, but I don't think Cedeno is goin to go in there and be a perfect top of the order hitter without some time to adjust. If he does need adjusting, then you are just as well of hitting Neifi 2 as Cedeno.

 

I never say he'd be perfect, just that he's well-suited.

 

Also, doesn't Barrett have some weird splits when it comes to hitting in the 2 hole? I could have sworn that last year he didn't do so hot there.

 

So, what's your lineup look like?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Again, because Dubois is a different type of player then Cedeno, I could potentially buy that. But look at May, where he at one time started 17 out of 19 games. His numbers for May were less then stellar: .224/.268/.403/.671. How much time do we need to give him? Eventually he would catch on, as Cedeno might, but I don't think Cedeno is goin to go in there and be a perfect top of the order hitter without some time to adjust. If he does need adjusting, then you are just as well of hitting Neifi 2 as Cedeno.

 

How many players go out there and become perfect top of the order hitters out the gate? Very few. Cedeño can put up Neifi's current numbers at the 2 spot now itself and has a future; if Ronny is in the big leagues, I see no reason why Neifi should hit 2 rather than Ronny (or start over him).

[burnt out cubbie fan]

Again, because Dubois is a different type of player then Cedeno, I could potentially buy that. But look at May, where he at one time started 17 out of 19 games. His numbers for May were less then stellar: .224/.268/.403/.671. How much time do we need to give him? Eventually he would catch on, as Cedeno might, but I don't think Cedeno is goin to go in there and be a perfect top of the order hitter without some time to adjust. If he does need adjusting, then you are just as well of hitting Neifi 2 as Cedeno.

 

How many players go out there and become perfect top of the order hitters out the gate? Very few. Cedeño can put up Neifi's current numbers at the 2 spot now itself and has a future; if Ronny is in the big leagues, I see no reason why Neifi should hit 2 rather than Ronny (or start over him).

Don't you remember? When you aren't scoring a lot of runs you need to have defense. Does Ronny have a gold glove? I think not.

[frostwyrm]

Burnitz should get some days off and Dubois should play RF those days. Burnitz is not Sammy Sosa and his bat doesn't need to be in every game, and Dubois is being wasted and possibly ruined. In the last 13 games he has gotten 13 at bats. He needs to play more or be traded.

[Fred Hornkohl]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well.

 

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

 

I don't mind doing the lefty-righty split, to be honest with you. Burnitz has been struggling lately, but I think he's fine there. I could have them either way, but that's just a bit of a preference I have.

 

I wish all our players were struggling like Burnitz.

 

Burnitz            AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
06/02 - 07/02     100   20   31    8    0    5   54   14   13   18  0.310  0.389  0.540  0.929

[rocket]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well.

 

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

 

Not that I'm in favor of putting Burnitz cleanup...but him being in the 4 spot isn't even near the top of the list of why the Cubs are underperforming.

[Flames24Rulz]

VS Lefties:

 

1. Hairston - CF

2. Walker - 2B

3. Lee - 1B

4. Ramirez - 3B

5. Burnitz - RF

6. Barrett - C

7. Dubois/Holla - LF

8. Cedeno - SS

9. Pitcher

 

VS Righties:

 

1. Hairston - LF

2. Walker - 2B

3. Lee - 1B

4. Ramirez - 3B

5. Burnitz - RF

6. Barrett - C

7. Cedeno - SS

8. Patterson - CF

9. Pitcher

[Outshined_One]

The triple threat of Lee, A-Ram and Burnitz is yet to be broken up. That's just the way it should go, I guess. Something Dusty actually got right. Mix and match A-Ram and Burnitz and all is well.

 

He'll keep hitting Burnitz cleanup from time to time, and that is a no-no in my book.

 

I don't mind doing the lefty-righty split, to be honest with you. Burnitz has been struggling lately, but I think he's fine there. I could have them either way, but that's just a bit of a preference I have.

 

I wish all our players were struggling like Burnitz.

 

Burnitz            AB    R    H   2B   3B   HR   TB  RBI   BB   SO     BA    OBP    SLG    OPS
06/02 - 07/02     100   20   31    8    0    5   54   14   13   18  0.310  0.389  0.540  0.929

 

I was referring to the past few days Fred. :D