Cubs (Rea) vs Reds (Greene): 9/18/25, 6:15pm

[Rcal10]

1 hour ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

They’re number 1 in OPS+ yet not even top 5 wRC+. Fangraphs and baseball reference have conflicting data. 

That makes it good for people who like to argue about if a player is good or not. Find the stat you like and use it for your argument😬

[Jason Ross]

1 hour ago, Geographyhater8888 said:

They’re number 1 in OPS+ yet not even top 5 wRC+. Fangraphs and baseball reference have conflicting data. 

It isn't necessarily "conflicting", to be fair. It's that wRC+ is designed specifically to fix the flaws in OPS+. 

[Backtobanks]

5 hours ago, Rcal10 said:

His critics complain he isn’t worth his contract. But whether it is because he is a great defender and average hitter, that gets him his value, he does play to what he is being paid. If you believe in WAR as an indicator of how good a player is, it shouldn’t matter if he does it hitting, base  running or fielding. A ++ defender with an average bat is more valuable than a negative defender with a better than average bat.  But his critics only want to talk offense.

I'll take an average defender with an above average bat for $27 million per year anyday.

[Backtobanks]

5 hours ago, Bertz said:

"You know if you set aside the things he's good at he's pretty bad actually" 

Actually, he is a great defensive SS with an average bat making superstar money.

 

[JHBulls]

Wrong thread

Edited September 19, 2025 by JHBulls

[Geographyhater8888]

15 hours ago, Backtobanks said:

Actually, he is a great defensive SS with an average bat making superstar money.

 

Is you wanted an elite bat with average defense you’d end up with Trea Turner for $300 million for 11 years. Swanson’s making nowhere near superstar money relative to the market. He was the fourth highest paid middle infielder from his free agent class by $250 million combined.

Edited September 20, 2025 by Geographyhater8888

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13 hours ago, Backtobanks said:

Actually, he is a great defensive SS with an average bat making superstar money.

 

he has the 34th highest salary in MLB this season, he's not making superstar money

[javy knows my name]

It doesn't wish to learn, stop arguing with it