2025 Bears Offseason Thread

[CubinNY]

5 hours ago, UK said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/43439332/nfl-coaching-carousel-2025-agents-package-deals-consultants-goodell-concern

Ugh ....

The Bears are Charlie Brown and Trace Armstrong is Lucy.

lol in the article it quoted someone from the NFL who said “anytime you have power in the hands of the few you have a problem”. I suppose they don’t mind that in general society 

[Brian707]

 

[Outshined_One]

Part of me is impressed at their gall, part of me is annoyed at how it feels like they're just throwing horsefeathers at the wall.

[WrigleyField 22]

15 minutes ago, Outshined_One said:

Part of me is impressed at their gall, part of me is annoyed at how it feels like they're just throwing horsefeathers at the wall.

I don't think seeing the Tomlin situation and placing a call is throwing horsefeathers at the wall.

 

I wouldn't have been thrilled with a Tomlin hire, let alone a trade, but at the same time I'm not mad they called, either.

 

Steelers really love their stability if they didn't even entertain it though.

[CubinNY]

They can do a lot worse. 

[raw]

Tomlin signed a 3 year 50Mil extension in June, complete with a no-trade clause. This reeks of the Bears leaking to show they are willing to pay whatever it takes for a HC.

[minnesotacubsfan]

3 minutes ago, raw said:

Tomlin signed a 3 year 50Mil extension in June, complete with a no-trade clause. This reeks of the Bears leaking to show they are willing to pay whatever it takes for a HC.

and thats great as long as they get the best HC

 

[BigSlick]

I would never, ever want to trade real assets for a coach, no matter how good the coach is. You shouldn’t spend player acquisition capital on something that should only cost money. 

[minnesotacubsfan]

5 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

I would never, ever want to trade real assets for a coach, no matter how good the coach is. You shouldn’t spend player acquisition capital on something that should only cost money. 

ask the 2024 Bears if coaching matters

 

I'm not sure if Tomlin is worth whatever the Bears were willing to trade, but good coaches are worth whatever they get paid

 

 

[BigSlick]

4 minutes ago, minnesotacubsfan said:

ask the 2024 Bears if coaching matters

 

I'm not sure if Tomlin is worth whatever the Bears were willing to trade, but good coaches are worth whatever they get paid

 

 

Sure, pay them whatever they want. Dont ever give up a draft pick for one, good lord 

[UK]

Please hire Johnson.

[Wilson A2000]

2 hours ago, raw said:

Tomlin signed a 3 year 50Mil extension in June, complete with a no-trade clause. This reeks of the Bears leaking to show they are willing to pay whatever it takes for a HC.

Then it’s a good leak

[Wilson A2000]

2 hours ago, BigSlick said:

Sure, pay them whatever they want. Dont ever give up a draft pick for one, good lord 

Depends. If Kyle Shanahan ever became available, you do it. There are a few coaches that are worth more than draft picks.

Edited January 19, 2025 by Wilson A2000

[minnesotacubsfan]

4 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Depends. If Kyle Shanahan ever became available, you do it. There are a few coaches that are worth more than draft picks.

Agreed. And I haaate trading away picks

 

[Wilson A2000]

Dan Quinn was the better coach over Eberflus and Daniels is going to be the better QB. I’m not blaming Poles for picking Caleb #1 since it was the right decision at the time, but Daniels is incredibly impressive. 

[Rex Buckingham]

3 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Dan Quinn was the better coach over Eberflus and Daniels is going to be the better QB. I’m not blaming Poles for picking Caleb #1 since it was the right decision at the time, but Daniels is incredibly impressive. 

Everyone was saying Stroud was leaps and bounds better than Bryce Young last year... Young really closed that gap this year. Caleb's stats aren't that much worse than Daniels', it's just that Daniels' team is a lot better around him, not to mention the actual NFL coaching staff

[Outshined_One]

42 minutes ago, Wilson A2000 said:

Dan Quinn was the better coach over Eberflus and Daniels is going to be the better QB. I’m not blaming Poles for picking Caleb #1 since it was the right decision at the time, but Daniels is incredibly impressive. 

RGIII was on a similar path to Daniels, before injuries wrecked his career.

I love what Daniels is doing and want him to keep up this level of play, but nothing's guaranteed in this league.

[Rex Buckingham]

Rooting for the Bills tomorrow so that the Bears can wrap up their coaching search this week. I'd rank them as follows:

1. Johnson

2. Monken

3. McCarthy

[BigSlick]

On 1/7/2025 at 4:26 PM, BigSlick said:

I'll stand by my personal opinion of Dan Campbell: His horsefeathers will work really well until it doesn't, and when it blows up, its gonna blow up bad. 

 

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[Rex Buckingham]

1 minute ago, BigSlick said:

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Goff turned into a pumpkin and his defense had about as many injuries as the Bears O-Line... I don't think he's anything special, but this result isn't evidence of your point

[UMFan83]

48 minutes ago, Rex Buckingham said:

Caleb's stats aren't that much worse than Daniels', it's just that Daniels' team is a lot better around him, not to mention the actual NFL coaching staff

They aren't?  And I'm saying this as someone who believes in Caleb and holds out hope he can equal or surpass Daniels with the right coach. 

Daniels' completion percentage for 6.5% higher

His Y/A was 1.1 yards higher

He rushed for twice as many yards

He scored 11 more TD 

His passer rating was 100.1 compared to 87.8

His QBR was 23.7 higher

I think the gap between their play this year is pretty large but by no means insurmountable.  Caleb was dealt a really ****** hand and showed intangibles that we should be excited about (then again so did Daniels). Obviously need to make a leap next year and keep improving.  It does suck to be sitting here in this situation again, but I still feel pretty good about things despite what we've seen so far.

[Irrelevant Dude]

Eddie George interviewing tomorrow?  I guess that satisfies the Rooney rule and the Bears will be free to go full steam after Johnson, if that's what they want.

[SpongeWorthy]

3 minutes ago, BigSlick said:

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they'll be fine. defense was already a mash unit coming into the game.

to give some kind of equivalence, imagine if the bears defense were coming into a game against a good offense and sweat, dexter, edmunds, edwards, stevenson were already out then as soon as the game starts gordon gets hurt

[Rex Buckingham]

27 minutes ago, UMFan83 said:

They aren't?  And I'm saying this as someone who believes in Caleb and holds out hope he can equal or surpass Daniels with the right coach. 

Daniels' completion percentage for 6.5% higher

His Y/A was 1.1 yards higher

He rushed for twice as many yards

He scored 11 more TD 

His passer rating was 100.1 compared to 87.8

His QBR was 23.7 higher

I think the gap between their play this year is pretty large but by no means insurmountable.  Caleb was dealt a really ****** hand and showed intangibles that we should be excited about (then again so did Daniels). Obviously need to make a leap next year and keep improving.  It does suck to be sitting here in this situation again, but I still feel pretty good about things despite what we've seen so far.

Gotta be honest, didn't realize Daniel's had pulled away that much statistically. 

[Wilson A2000]

32 minutes ago, Irrelevant Dude said:

Eddie George interviewing tomorrow?  I guess that satisfies the Rooney rule and the Bears will be free to go full steam after Johnson, if that's what they want.

The fact that after interviewing a gazillion candidates they still aren’t Rooney Rule approved so they have to rush in Eddie George to go hard after Ben Johnson is another layer of Bears stupid